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Here is the biggest reason for what is wrong with our bureaucracy. Our motivation for joining the service is only for materialistic gains and privileges, instead of serving the society. Please go into private sector if you want high paying and comfortable jobs.
Well as a bachelor or being someone gifted with a silverspoon at birth, it is easy to say. But when people in future will start depending on you, sorry to say things tend to get difficult. And our own family takes precedence over public service.
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Here is the biggest reason for what is wrong with our bureaucracy. Our motivation for joining the service is only for materialistic gains and privileges, instead of serving the society. Please go into private sector if you want high paying and comfortable jobs.
Maslow Hierarchy of needs is one of the most basic model that explains motivation. The motivation that you are demanding for civil service is the last stage in that model i.e Self-actualization. According to the model, one cannot reach self-actualization unless the basic physiological need, security need, esteem need and belonging need are fulfilled. What you are demanding for civil service are angels who don't have any corporeal need.

P.S: I also backtrack on my comment regarding preferability of FSP over PAS. I chose FSP because of my own fascination with it not just material reasons although my understanding of material reason played a part. Although, discussing it is futile and seems pretentious before I clear the written, but I just did.
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Here is the biggest reason for what is wrong with our bureaucracy. Our motivation for joining the service is only for materialistic gains and privileges, instead of serving the society. Please go into private sector if you want high paying and comfortable jobs.
You are absolutely right. It seems that people here are more driven by the perks and privileges than anything else. And if some of them do pass their exams i am sure in the interview part they will claim that their only motivation for joining civil service is to serve their country. It saddens me to see how some young bureaucrats have to show off their privilege in order to motivate the new aspirants. If money and protocol is what you seek then you better become a politician.
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Here is the biggest reason for what is wrong with our bureaucracy. Our motivation for joining the service is only for materialistic gains and privileges, instead of serving the society. Please go into private sector if you want high paying and comfortable jobs.
This is by far the best answer I've read. I'm a foreign qualified student, was making more money than I would ever be able to lawfully make as Civil Servant, yet gave it all up to come back to Pakistan to be able to serve my country. And I'm glad that over the course of my CSS journey, I've met several others who are willing to compromise lucrative careers in the private sector in hopes of being able to serve the masses.
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Keep aside perks and privileges. When you say you join civil services to serve the country, you mean that private companies do not serve the nation anyway?
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Well as a bachelor or being someone gifted with a silverspoon at birth, it is easy to say. But when people in future will start depending on you, sorry to say things tend to get difficult. And our own family takes precedence over public service.
The whole point of going into the Civil Service is to serve the society. There are many great officers who have families and they still manage on humble salaries. Its all about priorities, if your priority is to have a life where you and your family can have all the best of this world then civil service is a bad option unless you are good with corruption.
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Keep aside perks and privileges. When you say you join civil services to serve the country, you mean that private companies do not serve the nation anyway?
A rather immature question. Private companies are driven by profit and loss not by selfless public service. Money is certainly necessary but it should not be the sole reason for joining the civil services. Since politicians and bureaucrats look for themselves and their petty self interests then who is there left to serve the general population? Don't you think our country is where it is right now due to such self serving mentality.
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Keep aside perks and privileges. When you say you join civil services to serve the country, you mean that private companies do not serve the nation anyway?
Private companies exist to make money. I'm not getting into the semantics of whether or not they also make social contributions, but their chief purpose is to make money.

The public sector all over the world, however, exists to serve the public.
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Keep aside perks and privileges. When you say you join civil services to serve the country, you mean that private companies do not serve the nation anyway?
No, private companies also serve the nation either directly or indirectly. However, their main objective is to make money and get rich and if anyone has the same object then they should go into the private sector. On the other hand, civil service is(or should be) about serving the society.
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Exactly, it is not worth taking. Only top three groups (PAS,PSP,FSP) have perks and privileges; rest are not more than a 17-scale sarkari mulazim.

Glad to hear that you stopped many

In big cities (Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar), Customs has more perks, privileges than pas or police
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