You are right Sadaf...After the Rai Ansar episode it is hard for us to trust anyone.
Mr. Yasir called me a few moments ago and we discussed possible methods of collecting money safely. 3 members who volunteer and are also approved by other member should open a joint bank account from which withdrawl of funds can only be done if all 3 sign the cheque. When we have sufficient funds in the account we will approach a good lawyer and we can take it from there.
For now, I am only requesting all to send the following info so I can make a google doc and a google group so we know who really is interesed.

1. Name
2. Age
3. Location
4. Cell number
5. Email address

does anyone have Peshawar High Court Decision copy? whether hard copy or soft.

Petition no: 2995/2011

I need this immediately!

Dear All,

I am just new yet want to giv some submissions: -

1. A committee is to be constituted for this specific purpose
2. Committee should be compromised of at least 50% members who are law graduates.
3. Committee will specifically work on it
4. Two sub-Commmittees should also be constituted which will do following:
(i) Media Committee: will interact with print media and give deliberations
to various anchors, columnists and journalists
(ii) Funds Committee: It will collect/motivate funds from the group
members and also visit various donors
organizations which will also helpful in raising
funds for this collective noble cause.
(iii) Audit Committee: Will overall check transparency in overall process so
no one has fear that one's contributed money will go
in vain/mis-utilized

LETS DO IT RATHER PLANNING

Remember: V may not heal the wounds but Can Raise the HOPE

24th May is the hearing date as case has been listed in urgent cause list. but i think Ahmed Abdullah Dogar going in court instead of A.K Dogar.

thats great, atleast humari suni gai, best of luck to ahmad abdullah dogar for pleading the case, may ALLAH bless him with glorious victory

also write letters to the newspapers(Letter to Editors)....like "Students expectations from the upcoming Prime Minister" and mention all the details

Sadaf u can talk directly with the Maryam Nawaz via twitter....as she is using twitter..here is link https://twitter.com/MaryamNSharif

At present, age limit for CSS examination is 28 years, relaxation of 2 years only for government servants, while age limit for all other countries(UK, INDIA etc) civil services is 35 years. Below are some of the reasond based on which we demand age relaxation in CSS exam. We can present these points for our case. Dear members, please include other reasons you think of as well.

Reason: 1
Age limit for CSS exam is a direct ban on higher education, as after reduction in upper age limit in 2001, HEC has produced more than 15000 PhD’s but none of those high qualified could appear in CSS examination due to upper age limit. Similarly, lawyers, doctors and other qualified person who have acquired higher education are also deprived of CSS competition due to upper age limit.

Reason: 2
Pakistani Society is heterogeneous society in which most of candidates belong to poor and middle class families. They can not avail three chances of CSS examination up to 28 years as they have to get educated as well as to support their families.

Reason: 3
It is also worthy to mention that FPSC has recommended at least 10 books for each paper and there are 12 papers in CSS examination. So, total number of books is 120 or more. It is impossible for a middle class or poverty stricken candidate to buy these books and then to study these books till the age of 28.

Reason: 4
It is a well settled principle that rules and policies should be made according to the situation and condition of public at large and not according to condition of few. CSS age limit must be fixed keeping in view majority of poor candidates.

Reason: 5
It is also worthy to ask whether Pakistani education system is not uniform. Can a candidate of Govt. school compete with the candidate of Model or well standard school? For answer is always in no. Then, whether the CSS examination is going to be only for elite class aspirants?

Reason: 6
The most important point is that the unemployment and exploitation of youth has made them terrorist and they should not be let to go in the hands of terrorists. Let them give a chance to show their mettle.

Reason: 7Age relaxation to government servants is a severe violation of fundamental rights of our constitution because this means inequality of all citizens of Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Only few people have government jobs while majority have jobs in private sector. So, this must be for both or none. Also, age relaxation is given to few areas and not to the whole country.

Reason: 8
Recently age relaxation has been given to PMS candidates in Punjab. The decision of honorable judge ‘Syed Mansoor Ali Shah' for PMS age relaxation narrates, "As to appear in PMS, no previous experience is a requirement to apply. So, the relaxation given to government employees violates the rights of a common citizen. So, that relaxation should also be applied to general candidate who is not in public service"
Not only this, all provinces have given general age relaxation in all combined competitive examination except FPSC.

Reason: 9
The National Security Council under the supervision of Musharaf reduced the age limit for candidates appearing in CSS examination on general seats from 30 to 28 years; for backward areas' candidates from 33 to 30; and for government employees with two years continuous service from 35 to 30. It is also worthy to notice that most of the Musharaf's orders are declared by government as "Null and Void" but this order still exists.

Reason: 10
For other jobs under FPSC, age limit is 35 years. So same should be for CSS as it is a clear violation of fundamental rights. Also, age relaxation to the candidates belonging to only some specific areas of the country is also a clear violation of fundamental rights.

Reason: 11
A candidate of 21 years is mostly not fully matured for civil services. Examples from history are evident of the same fact. So, in order to recruit fully matured candidates and to avoid rot memory, upper age limit should be increased. Government should also give at least 5 years age relaxation for CSS in order to save talents from being brain drain.

Moreover, there should be elimination of the restriction according to which only three chances are allowed. There are thousands of candidates who are still under 28 year of age, but for one reason or the other could not make to clear the exam. Especially those who have qualified all the stages (written, psychological and interview/viva voce) but are not allocated to any occupational group.

We should request the new government to let the competent be given at chance of fair competition in a country like ours where mockery of the merit is the prevailing principle of government employment.

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I want to add one point here cut of date is 31 dec,it means those who born on 31 dec are ineligible,if a person is born on 31 dec 1985 ,he is not eligable to sit in 2014 css although on 31 dec that is cut of date he will be exactly of 28 years that is on 1 jan he will attain an age of 28 years and 1 day ,but still he is uneligiable why.

this current age limit law itself violates its own limit 21 to 28 because it make ineligible to those who attain an age of 28 years at the 31 dec on cut of date why.

cut of should be 1 jan or 2 jan like PMS and age limit should be 31

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This hearing was not about age relaxation, but to decide the provisional candidature of all those who took CE-2013 examination over special permission granted by the FPSC.The reason behind this permission was that the age relaxation up to 35 years Case was then in the LHC. It was decided that FPSC would decide early about the fate of those candidate, may be early checking of their copies and then withholding the result. In today's hearing court has moved to finally decide the fate of those candidates in June.

All these happenings are a direct result of initiations by some of my friends who contacted Mr. Ahmed Abdullah Dogar, son of A.K dogar, last week and inquired the matter. They asked copies of all proceedings, arguments filled up and even responses by the FPSC. In this week Mr. A.A Dogar approached Justice Ijaz-ul-Hassan and brought the matter in 24th May Cause List.

The whole matter is hanging like a pendulum. I encourage you to contact Mr. A.A. dogar (0300-8490349) and ask about chances of winning the case as well as arguments he has brought to defend the 35 years age relaxation matter.

It is also interesting to note that PHC rejected the same petition;however, no newspaper mentioned this news (as per my knowledge, if anyone has link kindly send me). I also striven for the decision copy of PHC case # 2995-11, to discuss the matter with karachi based supreme court registry lawyers but to no avail.

What I am trying to say is that I am seeing a hazy picture; nothing is clear. We are being cheated on or not!God forbid, time will tell us.

Anyhow, I have still hope. Please pay attention to contact sitting senators, writing secretary and chairman of FPSC & Establishment division, Prime Minister Secretariat, media personalities, and letters to editors. It must be consistent. I have assorted complete contact details of sitting senators and politicians including their home & email addresses. If anyone need this list kindly provide me your email address.

first look at this thing legally.
FPSC recommends age relaxation to PM. If prime minister allows it then it will be applicable. yousaf raza gillani had rejected this 2 times. once was in interim government time in 2008.
so approaching fpsc will not help much,one way to do so is to leave it in suggestion part.
secondly it was 30 years before musharaf brought it to 28. so striving for 35 is bit out of aspect. 30 is not acceptable what to talk of 35.
thirdly court's decision can help and make it binding. but still that part requires a lot of effort. which is not easy. Fpsc and establishment has very clear view over it. they take stance that they have recommended it to PM but it was rejected. then court has to ask from PM office to answer. it is a bit hectic and requires a good lawyer.

i will suggest you all to focus on 3 parts:
first learn about the right procedure
second who are the right people to consult
third what to do with such thing in court.

unfortunately what i have seen here is that people are doing sincere efforts but nobody is telling whats the right procedure and whom to approach.
if there is a good number then their grievance will be heard and addressed on right forum. so find that right forum ,get together and move forward.
one more thing 35 years age relaxation will not be granted whatsoever may be the case. but you can try. 30 years upper age limit is possible

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