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Yes you are absolutely right in suggesting city wise contacts and coordinated efforts. I mentioned it too in my earlier posts. Unfortunately, more than a year has passed and noting concrete could be achieved so far.
Before commenting on city wise coordination I would like to present my personal assessment of the efforts. The purpose here is not to criticize anyone but to examine the loopholes in the struggle and their avoidance in the future. At the beginning two steps were taken: firstly, case in PHC (2995-11), and secondly the case in LHC (21937-12). The fate of PHC case has been decided and the LHC is before the court. I contacted the Karachi based lawyers regarding the issue and narrated the whole story. They responded that I have to collect two documents for this purpose. Firstly, the copy of the decision of the PHC case and secondly, copies of all hearings, notices, memorandums and petition of the LHC case. Upon asking over the forum regarding the decision copy, I was not entertained. Even those, who were canvassing in the favor of the PHC case and Mr. Raees, didn’t find time to provide me the decision copy. I met Mr Asif Ameen in Karachi and asked the same. He said he will look into the matter and should be contacted after July as he was busy in preparing for his papers (his comments about Rai Ansar would be shared at appropriate time). During this struggle, I came to know that high courts website contain complete data of all cases (pending or decided; hearings or notices and other activities) and upon providing case reference number I can access the details of the said case. I visited PHC website, provided case number and the year (also checked it by changing the year to 2012 from 2011), and to my surprise there was no record of the said case there. I have provided links below for all for verification of my comments. http://www.peshawarhighcourt.gov.pk/search.php http://www.peshawarhighcourt.gov.pk/casestatus.php I told the story to Karachi based lawyers and they said it is not a problem. On my behalf they can write to the registrar of the PHC for acquiring the said document, if it really exists. Within few days this issue would be resolved and truth will be surfaced. I wonder why those aspirants who contributed financially to PHC case neglected in keeping a check over the initiation, proceedings and even the decision of the case. One day a guy appeared and canvassed for the PHC. Another day another guy appeared and told us that the case had been decided against the petition. Quite surprisingly, no electronic or print media, whether local or national, surfaced the news of the case. What I say further! In Persian it has been said “AKALMANDA RA ISHARA KAFI AST”. One thing I also want to mention. The LHC case (21937-12) has not moved even an inch. It was registered in late 2012. Its record over the LHC website shows that since the date of its registration, only one hearing has been done so far.(Link is provided below; anyone can enter case number and other details to see what has been done so far in this case). In May, last month, some of my friends contacted Mr. A.k Dogar and reminded him about the case. He directed them to his son Mr. A.A. Dogar (in real sense his son is looking after the case, not he). Upon several contacts, Mr A.A. Dogar approached the judge Justice Ijaz-ul-Hassan. In its result, the honorable court issued the notice to the FPSC. (This notice is about to decide the fate of provisional candidature of those candidates who have taken CE-2013 upon provisional permission by the FPSC). Now reply of this notice would be submitted by the FPSC in the last week of June. http://lhc.gov.pk/?page_id=357 insert: Location : Principal Seat Judge : Justice Ijaz-ul-Hassan Case # : 21937-12 Parties : Rai Ansar Some aspirants may say that I am permeating a sense of despair and desolation among the strivers; however, if truth is coined by such words then absolutely I am a pessimistic person. My sole reason or purpose behind it, is only to suggest aspirants to be active and think rationally. If this opportunity were wasted, we would not be able to grab it in the future. Age relaxation, whether 35, 33 or 30 is granted I have no problem with it. If majority is in favor of 35 then we have to advance for it. @Urfa Khan, I am available in Karachi. Lets wait until at least four or five people responds from Karachi then the coordination will be decided accordingly. So aspirants from Karachi Please Hurry Up! Time is running out. A golden and rare opportunity must not be wasted. Please contact. |
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Sadaf and xplodec are right.
Xplodec I honestly request you to leave everything and just find some way to contact Ak Dogar and request him to appear personally in lhc for us and win the filed petition. We will pay him more once he wins us the case. He really can win it. He told Rai Ansar in the start that he could win it for sure. All he wants is money and if you could convince him that CSS aspirants have pinned all their hopes on him after God then he might do a miracle for us. We have new members like sadaf, ayesha, tehreem, urfa and others. They will contribute whatever they can and we will recontribute. He just has to appear once in full form before the judge. He is very senior, all those judges are his students and trainees. No chance that they will overlook him. Please leave everything else and just focus on AK dogar. |
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@ All: DO OR DIE
Ak dogar has taken some amount already from Rai Ansar.
And I request you all especially Xplodec to respect those senior members who did their best for this cause. Xplodec you don't need to share anyone's comments here. Asif Amin is the chief guy who sincerely put efforts for this cause. If he has met you or received your calls and shared something with you then kindly keep that with you, don't share. He must have met you or responded your calls out of courtesy otherwise he was not answerable to you because you were not present in the cause when petition was getting filed in PHC OR LHC. So rather than breaking his trust you should respect his trust. Raees did his best, appeared himself before the PHC chief justice, contacted high UPS. So no one should use their names to prove one thing or the other. Let the past stay behind, DON'T open Pandora's box. . So if Raees couldn't give you documents then he must be busy with other issues, he already wasted his precious time for us. And Asif Amin should be beyond any criticism. He did more than he was supposed to. Now you new guys should do something and give us result and we would follow you and respect you. This thread was about to be closed by Mods due to quarrelling and leg pulling but due to Last Island it was let open for us. So please don't use names in negative sense, don't betray someone's trust just because they were kind enough to meet you or receive your call, don't criticize each other, don't exploit freedom of speech. Enough of suggestions, advices, plans. Come up with action now and prove you are better than your predecessors. When you will act and get positive results then we will be the first to admire you. Watch other sections and threads. Mods close down threads and ban members with slight provocation. Here we have played mayhem and still Shooting star only warns us about cute grammar and says nothing else about the rude remarks and confrontations. So from now on everybody BEHAVE. I am starting from myself as charity starts from home.From now onwards: No criticism, no leg pulling, no points scoring, no heroism, no frowns and no scowls, no verbal attacks, no reproach, no guilt and no regrets. |
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Salam.
I belong to RWP and i am following this thread right from the beginning. I was highly motivated by the comments of Mr Mystic and contacted Mr Raees Ahmed in this regard and after a little bit correspondence , send him a crossed cheque of of Rs 5000/- in this January and also called Mr Asif Amin later on , just considering him coordinator but his response was a bit hopeless and said that Mr Raees will deal with the case as i am quite busy (Now i understand his state of mind, being too fed up from this apparently useless task) so i kept in touch with Mr Raees and last text i received was one in which he told me that LHC will decide case on 23/24 may and it has also passed. Although he is a thorough gentleman but he talks in quite technical terms which to me are mostly incomprehensible. I want to contact Miss Sadaf Ambreen , regarding case in SC and hiring of lawayer and one thing is for sure that any lawyer who says that case will be decided prior to 2014 is just a prevaricator because no lawyer can grantee when will the case be decided. Miss ambreen can you kindly give me any id so that i may contact you regarding hiring of lawyer. Regards |
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Thanks. Can you tell me if there has been any proposal/effort at official level in past for increase in no of attempts?
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I was approached by one of the forum members who financially contributed to this cause. After going through almost all the posts, I think it is about time that I should add some legal insight.
- The petition should be filed in IHC since FPSC is the respondent. - Its not possible for any lawyer to give a possible time frame as regards to decision of this case. It is a purely administrative matter and lawyers do not have any bearing over adminstrative issues of the court ( except to the extent that lawyers usually linger on by taking adjournments). - Why are the same peoeple filing same petition in different HCs is beyond my comprehension. Correct me if I am wrong but I read it in one of the posts that Mr. Raees would file petitions in all HCs. If this is so then a single judgment by any of these HCs would bar further litigation between same parties on the same cause of action in courts of competent jurisdiction (what you call Res Judicata). So if the same person is being a party in all petitions, its sheer wastage of time, money and efforts. - Just because you have AK Dogar or some top-notch lawyer, it does not guarantee that the decree will be awarded in your favour. I know lawyers have a face value but they win and they lose. Its a part of their profession. If you can hire AK Dogar, why cant FPSC appoint some top-notch lawyer as its pleader? My sane advice would be to make a real estimate od how much you can actually donate for this cause and then negotiate with lawyers. I know a lot of lawyers who are excellent and so do many of you. Hire a lawyer who does not fleece you. Any lawyer who tells you his fee forthwith can be hardly trusted. You always have to see the locus standi and the work to be done- the two things that determine how much a client has to pay. Its better to move the court by hiring a good lawyer rather than waiting till crack of the doom for an excellent lawyer to turn up before the court. I wish you guys all the luck in this world!
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no i don't know...
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As far i know the last hearing held regarding this was in september 2012.
LHC asked for explanation from FPSC. Till date no reply has been made by FPSC. and no other hearing took place. can be confirmed by calling FPSC CSS branch.
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