In service candidates
 

I am employed as educator on contract basis in the Punjab Education Department and i am applying for CSS 2012. Do i need to get departmental permission certificate as my appointment is on contract basis initially for 5 years.

secondly, are character certificates also necessary for applying?

[QUOTE=faisal4pro;523788]I am employed as educator on contract basis in the Punjab Education Department and i am applying for CSS 2012. Do i need to get departmental permission certificate as my appointment is on contract basis initially for 5 years.

secondly, are character certificates also necessary for applying?[/QUOTE]

yes you need to get departmental permission certificate issued by appointing authority. If you are in BPS-09 or BPS-14 then it will be issued by DEO and if you are in BPS- 16 then it will be issued by EDO.

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I am a lecturer BPS17 and I want to appear in CE13. Please guide me from where I have to take the permission? From RD? or my Principal permission is sufficient?

[QUOTE=Erum Qureshi;524119]I am a lecturer BPS17 and I want to appear in CE13. Please guide me from where I have to take the permission? From RD? or my Principal permission is sufficient?[/QUOTE]

Dear apply to the Principal for DPC and he shall forward it to DD for approval. You shall be given a diary number. And when it returns to your college you will get it. Forward your application now and send DPC later when demanded by fpsc.

[QUOTE=Erum Qureshi;524119]I am a lecturer BPS17 and I want to appear in CE13. Please guide me from where I have to take the permission? From RD? or my Principal permission is sufficient?[/QUOTE]

it will be issued by secretary education in ur case

[QUOTE=Taimoor Gondal;523809]yes you need to get departmental permission certificate issued by appointing authority. If you are in BPS-09 or BPS-14 then it will be issued by DEO and if you are in BPS- 16 then it will be issued by EDO.[/QUOTE]
permission to appear in CSS examination? do we have to attach it with the form while applying??

[QUOTE=anam047;524216]permission to appear in CSS examination? do we have to attach it with the form while applying??[/QUOTE]

if you get it in short time then attach it with the form. Otherwise send the form without DPC and send it later to FPSC.

NOC is necessary for age relaxation???

I have been working in Government department since 2005. Do i need to get DPC? if yes, then, who will give the permission. Grade 18,19, or above?
My second question is, during my employment I was a regular student; I just managed the both studies and job. Is there any problem with this Job and study simultaneously? would only DPC serve the purpose? Please answer my questions.

[QUOTE=seher bano;524322]I have been working in Government department since 2005. Do i need to get DPC? if yes, then, who will give the permission. Grade 18,19, or above?
My second question is, during my employment I was a regular student; I just managed the both studies and job. Is there any problem with this Job and study simultaneously? would only DPC serve the purpose? Please answer my questions.[/QUOTE]

your appointing authority will give the departmental permission certificate.

There is no problem with study and job simultaneously.

[QUOTE=Taimoor Gondal;523809]yes you need to get departmental permission certificate issued by appointing authority. If you are in BPS-09 or BPS-14 then it will be issued by DEO and if you are in BPS- 16 then it will be issued by EDO.[/QUOTE]

What is the grade of DEO and EDO???

[quote=seher bano;524718]what is the grade of deo and edo???[/quote]

deo 18
edo 19

If i dont submit my DPC, will it effect my candidature?

[QUOTE=Taimoor Gondal;524777]deo 18
edo 19[/QUOTE]

It means i can have my DPC from the officer under whom i am working. He is grade 19 officer.

[QUOTE=Taimoor Gondal;524777]deo 18
edo 19[/QUOTE]

Both have same grade, 18

There seems confusion about the Appointing Authority who would sign the Departmental Permission Certificate (DPC). Refer Estacode 2007, Volume I, Chapter I - Recruitment, Appointment, Seniority and Promotion, Rule 6 (1) [Page 47] which provides appointing authorities as follows:-

1. BPS 20 and above : Prime Minister
2. BPS 17-19 : The Secretary of the concerned Ministry or Division
3. BPS 16 or equivalent : An Officer Nominated by the Secretary of concerned Ministry or Division (in most Ministries an Additional Secretary)
4. BPS 3 - 15 : An Officer Nominated by the Secretary of concerned Ministry or Division (in most Ministries a Joint Secretary)
5. BPS 1 - 2: An Officer Nominated by the Secretary of concerned Ministry or Division (in most Ministries a Deputy Secretary)

The DPC is normally submitted to the Administration Section of the concerned department, who put up the DPC on the personal file of the official/officer/candidate to acquire formal approval from the competent authority (which is the appointing authority as mentioned above). Once the competent authority approves, the DPC can be signed by him or his subordinate officer e.g. Section Officer / Deputy Secretary. In most cases, the department forwards the DPC to FPSC on their own, however, some departments may give this to the candidate for onward submission to the FPSC.

There is also a difference in Competent Officer and Reporting Officer. The later is an official's immediate boss, who can be in BPS 17-22 but he won't sign the DPC or atleast it is not appropriate. So only the competent authority should sign your DPC.

Regards

[QUOTE=seher bano;525015]It means i can have my DPC from the officer under whom i am working. He is grade 19 officer.[/QUOTE]

your appointing authority will issue the DPC.
In education department DEO appoints teachers in grade 14 and 09. While EDO appoints teachers in grade 16 so they issue the DPC.
In your case your appointing authority(the designation who appointed you) will issue DPC.

[QUOTE=saus;525027]Both have same grade, 18[/QUOTE]

In my district EDO is of 19 grade so I mentioned that. Anyhow in some districts EDO may be of grade 18.

Salam,

I have been recently appointed in FGEI (C/G) on BPS-17 and will join on 12-Dec 2012. So do i also have to obtain DPC to apply for CE2013 ? My appointment letter was dated 26-Nov-2012 . please help me out in this regard. thanking in anticipation. Regards

[QUOTE=Alpha1;525147]Salam,

I have been recently appointed in FGEI (C/G) on BPS-17 and will join on 12-Dec 2012. So do i also have to obtain DPC to apply for CE2013 ? My appointment letter was dated 26-Nov-2012 . please help me out in this regard. thanking in anticipation. Regards[/QUOTE]

yes you have to get DPC. But you can get it later and apply without DPC.

[QUOTE=Taimoor Gondal;525181]yes you have to get DPC. But you can get it later and apply without DPC.[/QUOTE]

thank you for your prompt response.

[QUOTE=courageneverdies;525036]There seems confusion about the Appointing Authority who would sign the Departmental Permission Certificate (DPC). Refer Estacode 2007, Volume I, Chapter I - Recruitment, Appointment, Seniority and Promotion, Rule 6 (1) [Page 47] which provides appointing authorities as follows:-

1. BPS 20 and above : Prime Minister
2. BPS 17-19 : The Secretary of the concerned Ministry or Division
3. BPS 16 or equivalent : An Officer Nominated by the Secretary of concerned Ministry or Division (in most Ministries an Additional Secretary)
4. BPS 3 - 15 : An Officer Nominated by the Secretary of concerned Ministry or Division (in most Ministries a Joint Secretary)
5. BPS 1 - 2: An Officer Nominated by the Secretary of concerned Ministry or Division (in most Ministries a Deputy Secretary)

The DPC is normally submitted to the Administration Section of the concerned department, who put up the DPC on the personal file of the official/officer/candidate to acquire formal approval from the competent authority (which is the appointing authority as mentioned above). Once the competent authority approves, the DPC can be signed by him or his subordinate officer e.g. Section Officer / Deputy Secretary. In most cases, the department forwards the DPC to FPSC on their own, however, some departments may give this to the candidate for onward submission to the FPSC.

There is also a difference in Competent Officer and Reporting Officer. The later is an official's immediate boss, who can be in BPS 17-22 but he won't sign the DPC or atleast it is not appropriate. So only the competent authority should sign your DPC.

Regards[/QUOTE]
I have submitted DPC to my officer(grade 19) and he singed the leaf on the spot. Is there still any problem.Can i submit it to FPSC with full satisfaction??


Our Ministry is Housing and Works and runs by Minister of that ministry. then,
Our head of department is Director General (Grade 21)
then Chief Engineer( Grade 20), and
Then, Superintending Engineer( grade 19) he is the officer who singed the DPC of mine. Now tell me is he competent authority??? Moreover, i am working in grade 09.

[QUOTE=seher bano;525237]I have submitted DPC to my officer(grade 19) and he singed the leaf on the spot. Is there still any problem.Can i submit it to FPSC with full satisfaction??

Our Ministry is Housing and Works and runs by Minister of that ministry. then,
Our head of department is Director General (Grade 21)
then Chief Engineer( Grade 20), and
Then, Superintending Engineer( grade 19) he is the officer who singed the DPC of mine. Now tell me is he competent authority??? Moreover, i am working in grade 09.[/QUOTE]

The case with employees Autonomous/Attached/Subordinate departments is different. The heads of such organizations (being the appointing authority) would sign the DPC. Nonetheless, you may submit the signed DPC to FPSC. I don't think there would be any problem. Even if there is, FPSC would ask you to resubmit it (chances of which are slim). So you should submit this DPC confidently.

Regards

@ all

doesnt it say very clearly on the FPSC's DPC that it is not eligible for employees of autonomous/semi-autonomous bodies?

i think a general NOC will suffice rather than filling out the specific DPC for such employees....

you have to seek permission from your department as it is clearly mentioned. it is really important for you as well as your department. in case you are selected,then there will be no issue for you at the time of leaving your department. if you do not try to seek their permission ,they are legally authorized to hold you and in that case fpsc will not extend any support in your favour.

can anyone guide me! if i dont show that i am in service and apply for CSS.. will it cause any problem or shall my candidature be canceled?

Dpc rule
 

friends I have read css rules on fpsc ,which asks DPC from those persons who have completed 2 years service,kindly guide me as I am in Govt job from 3 months