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Yesterday, a forum colleague made a post asking if FPSC FAQs were reliable(http://www.cssforum.com.pk/beginners...faqs-fpsc.html).

An admin replied that they obviously were and closed the thread.

Of course the reply made perfect sense and closing the thread was the right course of action to take. However, I believe the original poster couldn't convey the full message and therefore I felt I should start this new thread and convey the full message.

The confusion originally started with the following FAQ on FPSCs site.

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What will be the proportion of MCQs and subjective in the papers of General Science & Ability in Part-I & II?
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There will a 20 MCQs from Part-I, whereas subjective part will be of 80 marks i.e. 40 from Part-I and 40 from Part-II.
The FAQ above suggests that the General Ability part will be subjective. However, I believe the common perception is that it will be MCQ based just like GRE and GAT.

So what exactly will the general ability part look like? How can they test mechanical and numerical reasoning, logical reasoning, quantitative problems, percentages and basic arithmetic and other basic mathematicl skills in a subjective type paper?
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Yesterday, a forum colleague made a post asking if FPSC FAQs were reliable(http://www.cssforum.com.pk/beginners...faqs-fpsc.html).

An admin replied that they obviously were and closed the thread.

Of course the reply made perfect sense and closing the thread was the right course of action to take. However, I believe the original poster couldn't convey the full message and therefore I felt I should start this new thread and convey the full message.

The confusion originally started with the following FAQ on FPSCs site.



The FAQ above suggests that the General Ability part will be subjective. However, I believe the common perception is that it will be MCQ based just like GRE and GAT.

So what exactly will the general ability part look like? How can they test mechanical and numerical reasoning, logical reasoning, quantitative problems, percentages and basic arithmetic and other basic mathematicl skills in a subjective type paper?
Your question makes sense but Maria's question was vague and ended up closing the thread.

Now for your query. Imagine you have the same question that you feel is given in MCQ type paper but you don't have answers to choose, logically it will be subjective question now, because you don't have any choice now.

So as simple as it can be, you might face same kind of questions as asked in MCQs type paper of logical reasoning and intelligence test maths but the difference will be the absence of choices that make it an MCQ.

So no matter if the length of that particular maths problem is short or long it will be subjective now.

I hope it should be clear now. Moreover, CE-16's paper will clear all of the confusion for the coming CE's aspirants.

Hope for the best and be ready to face the worst.

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on faqs of fpsc they mention that islamiat can be in urdu and its urdu version syllabus is also available on www.fpsc.gov.pk but actually not found there thats why i am asking fpsc faqs is trustworthy or not???????

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on faqs of fpsc they mention that islamiat can be in urdu and its urdu version syllabus is also available on www.fpsc.gov.pk but actually not found there thats why i am asking fpsc faqs is trustworthy or not???????

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Why would you require urdu syllabus ? All you have to do is translate the words from English to Urdu and that should not be some hard nut to crack.

And if one FAQ by chance has an error, that does not mount to any blunder, doesn't mean that these FAQs are not trustworthy. In paper english question will be asked along with its translation in Urdu so don't worry about it, just focus on your studies.

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@incounternable i get that tapatalk is fpsc contact source....

i want to see urdu syllabus for confirmation that urdu allow.yes i have already use english syllabus after translation......

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@incounternable i get that tapatalk is fpsc contact source....

i want to see urdu syllabus for confirmation that urdu allow.yes i have already use english syllabus after translation......
Then you should seriously contact FPSC and ask them to provide you with urdu syllabus.

Aur kiya confirmation chahye apko? Jb k FAQs m saaf saaf bataya hua h k Islamic Studies Urdu aur English dono languages m de skte h.

Just relax, stop worrying about this and focus on your studies.

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i only want satisfy answer of my querry.i dail fpsc but they said wait for notification.......i am serious.

and fpsc faqs is going on east and syllabus at west how can aspirant meet them at a single point....????????

i am not intelligent like you.....i am just normal person

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i only want satisfy answer of my querry.i dail fpsc but they said wait for notification.......i am serious.

and fpsc faqs is going on east and syllabus at west how can aspirant meet them at a single point....????????

i am not intelligent like you.....i am just normal person
If they have asked you to wait for notification then you should wait for notification and in the mean time prepare yourself in a way that when it comes to solve the paper you have both options at your disposal(i.e attempting in both languages)

As far as I can tell you, the attendants on fpsc call center might not have such insights into technicalities of such queries.

My suggestion, e-mail fpsc about your query. It will be properly processed and replied after consultation with concerned authorities.

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Please tell me, is there any pattern for css exams 2016 in the form of model papers available in market? If not then, will fpsc expose such idea in the face of model papers before css written 2016?
Secondly; clear the ambiguity regarding general ability part of the science paper, would it be subjective? If so, then what about math menu in the required field?
I am a political science graduate, there was no math stuff in my academic record except matric level.
My question is, preparation of matric level maths would be sufficient in order to crack the paper or we ( the students with no maths background except matric) have to prepare maths in detail i.e of intermediate level or more?

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Please tell me, is there any pattern for css exams 2016 in the form of model papers available in market? If not then, will fpsc expose such idea in the face of model papers before css written 2016?
Secondly; clear the ambiguity regarding general ability part of the science paper, would it be subjective? If so, then what about math menu in the required field?
I am a political science graduate, there was no math stuff in my academic record except matric level.
My question is, preparation of matric level maths would be sufficient in order to crack the paper or we ( the students with no maths background except matric) have to prepare maths in detail i.e of intermediate level or more?
I don't think there are any authentic model paper sets available in the market. Even if there are such papers, those would be guess papers provided by academies or Exam cram series by Jahangir series. However, it must be noted that syllabus of almost every optional as well as compulsory paper has been changed so following such model papers would be like throwing arrows in the dark.

Open up the syllabus of subjects and try to cover at least 60 to 70% of the syllabus and believe me you won't need any of those model/guess papers.

And neither will FPSC release any such model papers before the exam.

Regarding the ambiguity of general ability paper, as I have said earlier if the FAQs make it clear that it will be subjective then it will be subjective. I also explained earlier that if such questions are to be subjective the simple idea of such questions is that those will be same as that of GRE GAT maths but there won't be any choices and you'll have to solve it and find the answers yourself that will make it subjective.

Now coming to it's difficulty level, as it includes basic maths then I guess it's level would be upto matric maths.

Practice basic maths of matric along with GRE GAT and intelligence test's maths but without consulting the choices given and find answers on your own.

Moreover, the ability part is 40% so focus more on 60% part and try to crack the 40% part by practicing maths.



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