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i have selected accounting and auditing as my optional subject but most of people among those with whom i discuss for subject selection have advised me to not to select accounting and auditing as optional subjects. even though i am quiet good in accounting and auditing and also i have commerce and business background from 1st year to masters. in 2009 exam these subjects were very low scoring. i am really confused about my subject selection. please share your views with me
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People avoid this subject because of its lengthy syllabus and technical nature. In fact, it is not that technical though its syllabus is bit lengthy.

It is a nice subject if you have proper background of accountancy and auditing.
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dear have you taken any attempt of css?
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Yes dear. CE-2009.
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I have read one of your post in which you have pointed toward the low scoring tendency of this subject due to sub standard checking. Back then, i thought that you were saying it because of your own low score in this subject. This year(2010) i score 73 marks in this subject despite of the fact that all of my answers were correct. There is some thing terribly wrong with checking process. I have consulted with some candidates who opted this subject, and surprisingly none had crossed even 100 marks. It seems that FPSC is using some sort of computer software which is programmed to award low marks in Islamyat and Accounting papers. Did you applied for rechecking (recounting actually as they never reevaluate the damn paper)? If yes than what was the out come? Please give you opinion and suggest that should we change our combination of subjects this year?
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I have read one of your post in which you have pointed toward the low scoring tendency of this subject due to sub standard checking. Back then, i thought that you were saying it because of your own low score in this subject. This year(2010) i score 73 marks in this subject despite of the fact that all of my answers were correct. There is some thing terribly wrong with checking process. I have consulted with some candidates who opted this subject, and surprisingly none had crossed even 100 marks. It seems that FPSC is using some sort of computer software which is programmed to award low marks in Islamyat and Accounting papers. Did you applied for rechecking (recounting actually as they never reevaluate the damn paper)? If yes than what was the out come? Please give you opinion and suggest that should we change our combination of subjects this year?
Thanks for support in this regard.
Whenever an affectee complaints of even a genuine issue, it is generally perceived that s/he might be exaggerating it in his own defense. Same was the perception of unaffected guys in my case. Even some of my close friends in this forum thought through the same frame of mind (that of yours). It human nature that a victim complaints of issues and at times s/he exceeds the realistic limits in his grievances. Similarly neutral or unaffected candidates take his grievances at discounted level, and they do consider these cries as inflated one. Contrary to this, I remained within realistic limits and my complain was genuine. My challenge is still valid and will remain open for ever, if they re-assess my papers they will feel guilty of committing a blunder and spoiling the efforts of sincere and competent candidate. My papers remained the best papers except EDS. I was afraid of EDS result even to a failing stage but rest of my papers were the best papers. My accountancy and auditing score should never fall below 170 threshold but they awarded me only 120+ score. I cannot understand how did they award me such suicide committing marks. Issue is not the level or approach differences but issue rests with the brutal marking trend.
I have never scored below 90% in accountancy, auditing, taxation, and all the related papers in my MPA Finance, B.Com, SBOTS training, Banking diploma. I have been teaching advance accounting, auditing and related subjects to the MBA students in Universities during my lectureship period.
Please do not tell me about the difference of local authors and foreign authors, because I have gone through both the local and foreign books. I left no stone unturned. You cannot blame my low score due to difference of local and foreign stuff because I was already conscious about this issue and handled it tactfully by maintaining a fine line.

Issue pertains to their mind set, whenever they decide to target any paper, they do it at any cost. That cost is the career of candidates. Whenever they decide to reward any subject they do it come what may, even they can reward you more than 100 despite the fact you cannot pass a single paper from the rest of your optional and compulsory papers.


I cannot give you tips to save yourself but sincere prayer to save you from FPSC's shir. You cannot predict their next assessment criteria. FPSC's this mind set is called "luck" in the dictionary of aspirants. Otherwise what has luck to do with hardwork and talent. Luck ka kam ik do marks sy zinda karna ya mar dena hota hy, ye nhi hota ky luck kisi ko 100 ke dandi mar dy ya 70 , 80 ke dandi mar dy. At least I can't term it as luck rather it is injustice. Luck ye hy ky ap sirf 5 questions yad kar ky gay aur qismat sy wahy 5 questions paper main aa gaye, luck ye hy ky ap ny koe book study kia aur 15 MCQs usi book main sy aa gaee, luck ye hy ky ap ny 3 essays yad kar liy aur wahi essays exam main a gaee, luck ye hy ky itefaqan ap ky sary tuky sahi ho gae, luck ye hy ky ap ny jo preci ka title dia wo sahi nikla is ky bawajood jo ap confident nhi thy us py.

Ye kahan ka luck hy ky ap ny sub kuch sahi kia ho aur ap ko 200 main sy 80 marks milain, ye to zulum hy. ye kahan ka luck hy ky ap pages kaly kar ky aye aur bey tuki batain likh k aye aur ap ko 150 marks mil jain, ye to andher nagre hy.

I don't charge FPSC for corruption but their irrational practice can be counted in injustice. I don't charge them in bribery and politically influnced cases but I count them in the lot of discriminatory practice, and illogical approach towards discouraging some papers in few years and encouraging the same in other attempts.


I applied for recounting in my 7 papers but you know very well about their intensions. Will they ever accept their fault? No, never. They did not even bother to reply me, I called them time and again: You know what was their response: "

Me: AOA, sir jee I applied for re-counting of my CE-2009 papers but I haven't received any response from FPSC.
FPSC:hum ny letter bhej dia tha .
Me: Kab bheja hy? mujhy nhi mila
FPSC: ye hamara sar ka dard nhi ky ap ko nhi mila, wesy bhi koe change nhi hy result main. ap ke wahi marks hain.

Ye sun ky main heran ho gaya kion ky itni der main na main ny usy apna name bataya tha na roll number na province, kuch bhi nhi bataya tha to wo kesy kah rahy hain koe change nhi ap ke re-counting main. Mujhy bahut dukh bhi huw aur gusa bhi aya FPSC ky is haal py ky kesy khuda ky bandy hain pahly sy mind bana ky bethy hain ky result change karni nhi lihaza zahmat bhi nhi ke re-counting karny ke. AKhir un ko ilham to nhi huwa ky phone py fayaz bat kar rha hy aur us ka ye roll number hy aur in in papers main re-counting ky liy apply kia hy. ye sub kuch jany bagair unhon ny meri re-counting ka hal bata dia. Zulum ke intaha ho gae

Me: main ny bhala koe khawab dekha hy jo mujhy pata chaly ky FPSC ny mujhy letter bheja hy aur post office kha gae. Ap mujhy batain kis date main kis outward number sy kis service ky through bheja hy taky main post office walon ko gunahgar thahraoon.

FPSC: hamain nhi pata date ka bhi aur number ka bhi, registered mail ke hy ap ko.

Me: bhai agar mujhy date aur number nhi milega to main kahan sy searc karaonga postal service walon sy.

fpsc: Hamara kam nhi ye, ap post office walon sy pocho.
Me: Ap ka farz banta hy aur ap ka kam bhi hy ky ap ensure karo ky response candidate tak pahuncha hy. Registered mail ke hy to postal walon sy acknowledgement le hogi ap ny wo reseed zara dekhain us main kis ka nam hy jis ny mera letter receive kia hy? agar reseed nhi hy to return mail aye hogi ap ky pass. Lakin bata don ap ko ky kabhi esa huwa nhi ky mujhy mail mili na ho, FPSC ky written exam ky letter, written pas ky letter, medical ky letter, interview ky letter sub mery pas aa chuky hain to akhir ye kion nhi.
FPSC: hamary liy sirf Govt ky kam important hoty hain candidate ky nhi.
Me: ap ny fees charge ke hy per paper re-counting ke aur 7 papers ke fees 1400 bante hy. itna farz banta hy ap ka ky atleast response convey karain aur ensure karain ky respons candidate ko receive huw ky nhi.
FPSC: wesy bhi marks wahe hain ap ke
Me: Mujhy written main ap ka response chaee ky meri marks wahe hain aur re-counting main koe ghalate nhi niklee.
FPSC: phr kia kia ja sakta hy
ME: main ap ko fax number bataon ap fax kar sakty hain? ya re dispatch kar sakty hain?
FPSC: nhi
Me: You know I am also goverment officer, I have been inspecting such issues of postal etc. ye postal walon ko sedha kar sakty hain hum agar un ko charges dety hain, ap ny postal walon ko pay kia hy aur un ka ahtesab karain na. kion nhi karty. evidence lain un sy jub registered mail ke hy. aur jub dispatc ke jate hy to organizations main dispatch register maintain hota hy jis main sy ap ye dekh kar mujhy bata sakty hain ky FPSC ky kis outward number sy kis date main wo dispatch hwa hy. ap ye nhi kar sakty

FPSC: kuch un ko sharam aya aur kaha hum thore der main ap ko bataty hain.
ME: main call karon ap ko ya ap khud karaingy.
FPSC: hmmmmmm.......khamosh
Me: main ny itni der main un ko apna cell number note karaya aur kaha ky dil kary to khud he call kar ky bata dejeiga otherwise main khus call karlonga.

FPSC: 20 minute bad call aye un ke. hum ny aj ap ko ap ke usi address py letter bhej dia hy

wo letter agly 7 days main bhi nhi mila mujhy.

Me: again main ny call ke un ko ky kia problem hy akhir, mujhy batain main post office walon ko court main ly jata hon agar esa koe issue hy.
FPSC: hum ny bhej dia tha.
ME: mujhy nhi mila, mera gunah batain. ya fax karain mujhy response, e mail krain mujhy........
FPSC: dekhty hain, kuch der bad unhon ny kaha us din letter nhi bhej sky thy ap ko, aur aj bhej dia hy confirm.
agly 2 ya 3 days main mujhy wo letter wo mil gaya.


Had there been any provision for re-assessment of the papers I would have proved their blunders. Afsos ye rule nhi re-assess karny ka.


God bless you guys.


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It seems that css is game of chance. If one succeeds, its his good luck and if ones fails, than its his bad luck. You never know, what will happen? . I wish you good luck in your career.

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RAZ & MUSA are correct...
One of my University fellow also scored high...
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