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sincere khan Sunday, March 01, 2015 07:28 PM

you are totally wrong because passing of css is not a game, it require a lot of qualities and skills. a css officer has every quality like decision making, initiative, good management skills etc.

mazhar mehmood Sunday, March 01, 2015 07:41 PM

Well Done,
valid points that you highlighted..

SPRR Tuesday, March 03, 2015 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=Syed Ali Hadi;807836]Dear brother, always remember one thing.

The high time to take care of your mother is when she is ill. Same goes for Pakistan. Never ever underestimate yourself and your homeland, for you are given best opportunities with best competitive examinations to bring Pakistan on that platform where Quaid wanted her to be. You may seek examples of our Muslim brother countries, like Iraq, Syria, etc. Historically Iraq was the only country in the Muslim world where we had highest number of PHDs students and now look at them! They have rifles in their hand and fighting for their freedom. It is the cost which they are paying through their blood. Did you ask yourself WHY?? Simply, because the nature may ignore the individual sins of the people but the collective blunders and sins of nation are never avoidable.

Stand firm and stand united. Never ask what Pakistan has done for you rather ask yourself what you have done for your motherland!! :vic All the best in your life and ahead.[/QUOTE]


I applaud your patriotism brother. We live in a very globalised world where there are endless opportunities for the ones willing to work hard, ones who are talented and the ones who are good at what they do. Talent in Pakistan is in abundance.. REAL talent.. not the talent we have been hearing about Umar Akmal since the last 5 years..

That being said, every country provides an infrastructure for its workforce. An infrastructure that ENABLES them to surpass their potential, and ensures growth for individuals and hence, the whole society.

From time to time, our government/military has framed and executed robust policies since independence but has never been able to achieve sustainable progress because of consistent changes in regimes.

I personally, do not see real democracy working in the country. Bilawal Bhutto or maybe Hamza Shahbaz is probably going to be the next Prime Minister. These families will continue occupying the upper echelons of power and loot the country for their own factories, mills, plazas and businesses abroad. The bureaucracy is divided among the ones who are honest, and yet, because of their honesty, do not get promoted to their desired and deserved places. On the other hand, the bureaucrats who are sycophants, and have it in them to suck up to the illiterate/feudal minded ministers, will get to the positions that they desire.

The upper class will get richer, wealthier and more egoistic. The middle class as usual will be sandwiched in between trying their best to make a comfortable living, while the lower class will keep getting poorer.
Energy and water are going to pose as a major problem in the next couple of decades.

The government keeps ignoring Balochistan as well as Sindh, as it has since the inception of Pakistan. The Balochis and Sindhis are already divided as it is. The Balochs do not even want to be a part of Pakistan.

The preamble of our constitution is based on the Objectives Resolution. We are supposedly the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and yet, Sunnis are killing Shias, Shias are killing Sunnis, both are killing Wahabis, and everyone is killing Ahmedis. The Baloch hate the Punjabi. The Hazaras are being hunted down and ruthlessly murdered. Afghanis/Kandharis are killing everyone they like and have a separate territory in the country. The pathan are killing the Muhajir, and the Taliban think that anyone outside of their home is a sinner whose death by their hands would please Allah and earn them beautiful hoors in heaven.

Our mother is ill. Yes, i agree.. but she is being controlled by the most corrupt people. Our mother, calls for a revolution.. But who will bring about a revolution, when the corrupt can seemingly pay off anyone?

The clash of different cultures, societies, casts, sects and ethnicities is ever present in the country; and will not resolve itself. Instead, it will be the downfall of this nation.

Yet, the beautiful people of Pakistan are the most resilient on earth. They will keep doing what they are doing, and survive in similar or worse conditions, under the same type of rulers. They will survive. But they will not prosper if things remain the same.

kingfalcon Tuesday, March 03, 2015 03:37 PM

It is quite sad that the topic is something else and we drifted to something different.. This is the situation with the entire country, people are distracted, they don't know what is right or wrong, they get fooled by others easily and then the coming generations have to pay for it..

Taurussh Monday, July 04, 2016 05:12 AM

[QUOTE=Syed Ali Hadi;807836]Dear brother, always remember one thing.

The high time to take care of your mother is when she is ill. Same goes for Pakistan. Never ever underestimate yourself and your homeland, for you are given best opportunities with best competitive examinations to bring Pakistan on that platform where Quaid wanted her to be. You may seek examples of our Muslim brother countries, like Iraq, Syria, etc. Historically Iraq was the only country in the Muslim world where we had highest number of PHDs students and now look at them! They have rifles in their hand and fighting for their freedom. It is the cost which they are paying through their blood. Did you ask yourself WHY?? Simply, because the nature may ignore the individual sins of the people but the collective blunders and sins of nation are never avoidable.

Stand firm and stand united. Never ask what Pakistan has done for you rather ask yourself what you have done for your motherland!! :vic All the best in your life and ahead.[/QUOTE]

Hola, too much optimism. But, you can't feed your children with such rhetorics. There has to be some pratical means to achieve the end. At the end of the day, a bureaucrat is supposed to work under ministers, where he can't even raise his voice. Put yourself in the shoes of Asif Haider Shah, ex-Karachi commisioner who was removed by a PPP minister (I don't have to name him, every one knows). All just because of his personal enmity. How helpless he would have felt.

Faisal Haroon Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM

[QUOTE=SPRR;807720]Hello everyone,

I just wanted to say that it has been a great 2 year run for me, trying to become a CSP.

Before i ventured into this, i had the following [B]perceptions[/B] about CSS:

1. That it was only for the rattay-baaz.
2. That one has to write sheet after sheet for even the simplest of questions.
3. That its a waste of time.
4. That it doesn't test your knowledge. It only tests how well you can memorise.

My perception about the exams changed after the first attempt. True one needs to memorise portions, but its not just about cramming, its also about the concepts and how well one can articulate or express those concepts into the written form. I wrote about 12-13 pages in my Essay (without EVER preparing or practising for an essay) and got 46.

So, its the quality that matters, not the quantity. I advise people not to panic in the exams when they hear others asking for extra sheets halfway through the examinations.

The first time i took the exams, i was working and thought that i would just see what the exams were about. I studied for a month max and appeared in CE-2014. I thoroughly enjoyed the overall experience and poured my heart out in the exams. I didn't make it when the result came out and failed one optional paper.

I thought that i should give it another try and went for the CE-2015 exams. I studied for around 3 months this time. Quit my job to devote more time to studies. This time, i have a better feeling about the exams. Rest is up to God inshaAllah.

All in all, it was a [B]great experience[/B] because i studied a kaleidoscope of interesting subjects which broadened my knowledge about the world, history, law, politics, Pakistan, and International Affairs - subjects that i had never studied before in school, college or university. I wish our schools would include subjects like Sociology, Philosophy, International Relations, International Law etc. in the syllabus.

I do, however have certain issues with the examiners, and how the examinations are administered.

1. [B]"Beauty lies in the eyes of the examiner"[/B].
I am against the beautification of papers, i.e., using markers for headings, then underlining the headings, making margins, using quote after quote etc. These are competitive examinations. Although it may make sense using these things to make your paper stand out, but they do not in any way certify the quality of your written content. We are not in grade 4. We should not be forced to do this to get better grades. We can send you a sticker book of Barbie and a pack of crayons instead if you want.

2. The [B]first three days[/B] of the exams make or break the aspirants. 6 subjects in 3 days, 9-5 makes one go crazy. There should be a gap in between the first three days. A subject like Pakistan Affairs is lengthy and takes time to revise.

3. Wouldn't it be better if one has to take optionals according to their group preference? For example, if a person wants to go to the Foreign Services, then he should be liable to take up International Relations as well as International Law, using a higher weightage on these subjects since they are DIRECTLY related to his preferred field. Similarly, Public Administration should act as the same for the ones preferring PAS.

4. It seems that the examiners single out papers on [B]pre-conceived notions[/B] and give them similar marks. For example, last year, there were numerous people who received 10 marks in their Essay exams, a number of people who received EXACTLY 40 etc. Why not 11, 12, or 41, 42 ? This just shows that the examiners do not really go through the whole papers. They see a bad point and voila!, they give you 10!

5. [B]Examinations:[/B] I am not anti-feminism or anything like that but, like the army Naakas (barricades) where the army personnel let you go if they see a female sitting in the car, the invigilators let the females cheat their way through the whole paper. I am not saying that they should allow guys to do this as well. No, not at all. I am saying that they should be able to stop the female candidates from conversing throughout the exams, because it is VERY distracting. Bring in female invigilators if you must but PLEASE, do not deliberately let anyone constantly whisper, male or female. Thanks.

I [B]encourage[/B] people to seriously take these examinations as soon as they are done with their Bachelors, and give it their best shot in the first attempt. Do not do what i did and just go through the first attempt to see what its all about. The first attempt is the best attempt.

[B]My 2 Rupees[/B] on how best to take the examinations is to study smart. Do NOT waste time studying books upon books of a subject. Start off with the Jehangir/Faridi series. They bring you up to scratch. Once you're done with them. Then do your own research. Google has everything. Make your own notes and learn them as much as you can.

Pick up the optional subjects which are interesting to you, and have a good scoring pattern.

Also, it is not necessary to read DAWN everyday. Seriously. Searching up targeted articles on the subjects you want to study on the internet is more effective.

I also encourage people to NOT view the CSS Examinations as a way for them to legitimize their inferiority complexes and use their newly gained powers to acquire wealth by exploiting the people.
If there is [B]one thing that i have learnt[/B] from all the newspaper reading and the studies about Pakistan, its the fact that our country is going down the drain. If the politicians are looting the country, then its up to YOU and ME, to stop them and keep a check on them because soon, we won't have a country to live in. We will have divided states, already divided because every group believes that THEIR cast, language, form of Islam, ethnicity is the best.

Lastly, i want to thank this Forum, for being a beacon of light for all the aspirants out there. Whoever handles this forum, great job guys.

Just one thing, kindly change your automated reply to people using "thiZ tyPexZ of language". There's no such thing as 'cute words' or 'netspeak'. Change that to 'slang'. Simple.

Regards.[/QUOTE]
thanx brother for valuable information...
But brother I have a question..
What is meant by smart study ..??


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