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I thought to go for CSS because I wanted to stay in Pakistan and as a doctor it is very hard to survive there.
my cousin is MBBS and he makes 150,000 a month (more than enough for survival) in a village of 500 people.i'm sure you could have made more working in a city.
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I took another bold decision and resigned from my job on 6.2.2012 in spite of getting salary in 6 digits.
6 digits is one lac right? shaukat khanum pays one lac to a medical officer? (just asking)
my sister worked in Liaqat National and they only paid 18,500 to a medical officer last year(i don't know what they pay now but its definitely not one lac) n even Agha Khan paid 25,000.even now they only pay 35,000 to a post graduate doctor and you left that job to do one which pays 1/3 of that salary and still you say that its hard for a doctor to survive?
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I got scholarship in 5th, 8th and Fsc. I scored the highest marks in 75 years history of my college and got admission in MBBS in Allama Iqbal Medical College Lahore.
now these were the only lines that were truly inspiring.
i mean no offense brother but your statements are quite contradictory.
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my cousin is MBBS and he makes 150,000 a month (more than enough for survival) in a village of 500 people.i'm sure you could have made more working in a city.


6 digits is one lac right? shaukat khanum pays one lac to a medical officer? (just asking)
my sister worked in Liaqat National and they only paid 18,500 to a medical officer last year(i don't know what they pay now but its definitely not one lac) n even Agha Khan paid 25,000.even now they only pay 35,000 to a post graduate doctor and you left that job to do one which pays 1/3 of that salary and still you say that its hard for a doctor to survive?
(mene suna tha k doctors parh parh kar pagal hojate hain but kabhi dekha nahin tha)



now these were the only lines that were truly inspiring.
i mean no offense brother but your statements are quite contradictory.
Mr Ridaf,i am unable to understand what sort of thinking is in your mind..You just wanted to criticize and you did it. Shaukat Khanum is paying more than 1 lac salary to medical officer and even the senior medical officers are earning more than 1 lac and 50 thousand.In Shaukat Khanum,permanant consultants are earning more than 10 lacs per months and few one more than 30 lacs per months.For Example Dr Ahsan Shamim of orthopedics is earning more than 40 lacs per months..You can confirm it by calling SKM.

Meaning for survival is different for different persons.In medical profession,you can earn lot of money but you don't have any power, prestige and authority. The point of my survival was about authority ,prestige in society and public service on national and international level.

Bro,Its my humble request to you that don't criticize until you don't know the reality and don't use condescending language.
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@ridaf,u put ur questions right but i think the word selection was a bit harsh,everyone has his own definations for different conceots like survival in this case so,no need to be so much ironic

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Dr Valentine, heartfelt congratulations for this journey of (struggle and )success.
Would you mind if you were to share Essay strategy with aspirants plus the simple way to make PRECIS?
I'm confused about attempting essay, choosing its topic among those ten bigwigs.?
So , would you sir?
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Dear many doctor quit their profession for Civil Service. When it comes to power and authority, there is no other match.
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@arosh and drvalentino
maybe only you guys can get that much salary.another one of my cousin is a resident in surgery at Ganga ram n he only gets 50,000(i will definitely tell him to go work at shaukat khanum).i know that consultants make much more than medical officers, n that orthopedics and cardiologists are top money makers in medical profession but i just can't digest the fact that they pay more than one lac to fresh medical officer! but be it if you say so.
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i wasn't just trying to criticize you, i WAS actually criticizing you because i have this huge issue with doctors choosing another profession after they have wasted a medical seat.i was hoping you could be a bit honest about why you left medicine.as decent baloch said "many doctor quit their profession for Civil Service. When it comes to power and authority, there is no other match."
so there, thats what i had in mind.
as i said before i mean no offense brother but i apologize if you felt that way.
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Sir, You can not judge about the exact income of doctors -who work in different organiztaions- just by asking your cousins and peers.For some institution pay more while others pay less.In punjab ,pay of fresh p.g. Trainee is 42500 rupees and that of nely appointed m.o is about 47000.But in skmch, pay is definitely more than its govt. counterparts as the duty timing in skmch is about 12 hours contrary to 6 hours in govt. ones(excluding some er duties).So you should debate over the questions about which you have sufficient knowledge because then it may bear fruits.Please don't be offended .
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I am writing this post with the name “A Dream Came True”. It’s a brief story of my journey from medical profession to Civil Service of Pakistan.
I got my education from nursery to Fsc from my home town i.e Kamalia. I got scholarship in 5th, 8th and Fsc. I scored the highest marks in 75 years history of my college and got admission in MBBS in Allama Iqbal Medical College Lahore. It was a dream for me to be a doctor as it is the most glorified and respected profession. I continued my medical studies and in final year of MBBS, I thought to go for CSS because I wanted to stay in Pakistan and as a doctor it is very hard to survive there.

After passing MBBS in first division, I did my house job in Jinnah Hospital Lahore from 16.5.2009 to 15.5.2010. Due to age factor, I had to appear in CSS 2010 without any preparation, I passed all papers but could manage to get 549 marks only. Islamic history and Journalism proved lethal and I got 70 and 35 marks respectively. In 2010, I was selected in army as a captain doctor. After consultation with my friends, I decided not to join army and decided to go for CSS.

Leaving everything aside, I started my preparation for 2011 from mid of June 2010 in a serious way. I started to study 8 hours a day for 8 months consecutively. Interestingly my all optional subjects i.e Geography, Islamic History, Journalism and Sociology were hit but I took a brave decision and decided to go with the same subjects. My written exam ended on 11.3.2011 and then I joined Shaukat Khanum Cancer Memorial Hospital Lahore in Paediatrics Dept on 18.3.2011 and worked there for 11 months. When my written result was announced, I was on my job. I was completely out of touch from CSS books so in order to prepare well for interview; I took another bold decision and resigned from my job on 6.2.2012 in spite of getting salary in 6 digits.

My sixth sense was whispering that your medical career is going to an end and future lies somewhere else. My interview was on 15.3.2012, I could not sleep well because it was the most important and decisive day of my life, I managed to get up early in the morning, offered Fajar prayer that I often miss, recited Quran, read newspaper and went for my interview that was on 10.30 p.m. Before entering in room, I recited Darood. My interview was very difficult and tricky but everything went v good by the grace of Allah. I was satisfied and decided not to do any job until my result.

Later I went to Karachi to meet my grandmother, aunty, uncle and other relatives. It was a time when Layari operation was underway. I came back to home town three days before my result. I love to spend time with my family when I go to home and hardly use my cell. Finally when result was announced at 6 p.m, my cell was off as usual, by chance I switched on my cell at 10 p.m, there were lot of messages to congratulate me but no one mentioned my merit no. In a meanwhile, I received call from my friend who told that I scored 20th position in Pakistan. At that time, I could easily hear my own palpitations. I offered 2 nafal and said thanks to Almighty on my success. That’s my journey from medical profession to Civil Service of Pakistan and I got my first preference DMG by the grace of Allah.

There were many mistakes and loopholes during my study, subject selection and in other areas that I will mention in my other series of posts. Let me tell one more thing, I never went to any academy in my written preparation of CSS and went only for one day for psychological preparation in one academy in Lahore. I got guideline from Sir Aga Mohsin for English, Sir Abdul Rasheed for Geography, Madam Talat for Psychological Interview and my friend Tahir Rizwan for general guidance in both written and interview

My DMC

Essay 40 Precis & Composition 54 EDS 70

Islamiat 52 C.A 46 P.A 58

Journalism 53 Sociology 60

Islamic History I 72 76 Geography 69 82



Written Marks 727

Interview Marks 196

Total Marks 923

Overall Merit 20

Allocated Group DMG

In the end, I am thankful to Almighty Allah for His blessings and to my family, teachers, friends and patients for special prayers.
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Dr Muhammad Zeeshan Hanif
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Congrats on your excellent success!
What i have felt, you have a strong decision power. The "I dont take the right decisions,I take decisions and make them right" thing .
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You scored 40 in essay....narrow escape nahi?
But it proves one thing, one doesn't need to get extraordinary marks to be successful.
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