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Omer ofcourse when you are earning as a Chartered Accountant you are earning many a times as compared to you earn in CSP line. I am wise enough to bring my qualification in use while serving the nation. I just had to purchase a 1.25 lac Sony Vaio machine (laptop) and it got me going, am earning 7 to 10 lac per transaction and i have already completed 4 assignments.So my expenses are going really well, I am wearing a prestigeous uniform and at the same time earning like a Chartered Accountant but this style of job will suit better in DMG service not in PSP...Omer its really tough in PSP where your responbility is too much, anyways as far as i am concerned i am enjoying it.


Talking about the reasons due to which i decided to join the service....well as a young student i always used to tal about the poor performance of the politicians and the Govt officers, but gradually i realized that if i criticize these politiians and govt servants why do'nt i join the service myself and do what a Govt employee should do as per my thinkings. In short i felt that i'll be satisfied to do what i liked to do and infact i always loved to be a PSP officer since my childhood, though i realized that fact a bit late. Remember one should chose the profession what he/she loves to do and i dint like late sittings,audits,worried to much about the clients, no time for family and a dead rubber life....


Ofcourse i had my articles which are mendatory...i had them at KPMG, i took the CSS attempt when i had three papers of Mod-E cleared,but by the time when i joined the CSA my articles were complete and passed the BFD paper of MOd-F during my CTP. Other than articles i was'nt brave enough to join a private job.

My marks in Audit & Accounts were 172 and in Mercantile Law 88


Hope my answers meet your queries, due to shortage of time i could'nt go in detail.

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Dear Sir Tahir (ASP)

I really like the way you answer the questions....and I am impressed from your education as well…Nice! Couple of weeks back I came up with bunch of queries, hope u all remember who participated?

Well, I have decided to go for MBA first and then CSS inshAllah...but I have comment and question on your statement “after retirement as CSP, a CA holder can have sound future as well". I put it in the perspective of MBA….

1) Can MBA help to join some company or bank to work with (After getting retired from CSS)? another thing that I always think about Police officers that I have seen lot of political influence within this....like unethical and illegal demands of CMs and Nazims during election days to DPOs.. And if one does not comply with, he gets transferred or suffers his due promotions. (Who is Nazim to direct a DPO? Is he a CSP officer? How much an ASP or DPO is autonomous then?) Up to what extent this rumor or u can say my observation is right?

2) After how many years CSS officer (in Police) gets promoted? And I have heard that age limit is extended up to 30 years to attempt for CSS... Is it right?

3) Up to what extent my MBA can help me in the exam of CSS, means to qualify it?

I think I have asked more then I should but I want to get rid of my confusion thru u brothers and sisters on this group...

All members especially ASPs and police officers are warmly requested to answer…+ Mr. SURMOUNTz opinion is awaited…
Best Regards,
SARMAD RAFIQUE

I Am not in active service at the moment but I consulted some people ( including a senior 22 grade DMG officer) before i was making my choices. they told me that Police and DMG are the most difficult as there is a lot of political pressure in it. so yes you might be right in that. because of that reason I put police at the end of my choices ( surprising ha, given everyone puts it at the top).
the first promotion is very quick. i think its three years after your STP. atleast that is what i have seen in the case of one of my good brotherly seniors.

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Dear Sarmad...First of all i really appreciate you for your keen interest shown in CSS...Pakistan needs competant people like you and I always feel obliged to answer the queries of the people like you

Now coming to the point..well As far as PSP is concerned then an MBA would'nt hav good package after retirement (at 60) or at premature resignation..this logic holds good for CAs but not for MBAs, reasons being the market is full of MBAs moreover MBAs are not financial advisors they are managers. (for PSP MBAs only)..BUT as far as MBAs in DMG,Foreign Service,tax,Custom,Audit/Accounts,Commerce & trade is concerned the prospects are very bright for MBAs..well i would like to quote the example of one of my seniors..he was in Income Tax department,he did MBA from IBA through Govt of Pak (which is mandatory for IT officers) then served for atleast 2 years and later he received an offer from Bank Alfalah at 5 lac per month + Civic + unlimited cell phone Now this is the prospects of an MBA in technical fields ofcourse even CA is'nt at its best while in PSP but in PSP one can go for LLM( crime) or Forensics as the STP at Sahala is awarded as Bsc(Criminal Studies) from punjab university

Yes MBA will help you a lot during your CSS attempt, i think if u hav covered ur accounting good dyring your MBA, u can score 150 easily in accouting of CSS (I scored 172) then Mercantile law if u hav good grip in Mercantile Law u can score 70+ (i scored 88) i think these were the two papers which made the difference for me coz i prepared for just 5 months for CSS due to my job commitments din hav time to prepare well then i resigned and prepared finally. similarly MBA can make a difference for u if u use it to your advantage.

Well talking about MNAs/MPAs and Nazims....who is more educated? who is more tacical? who is more shrewd? who is more cunning? "Toppi pehnana kisse atti hai?" ofcourse mighty CSPs...!!!! i think u got my point....yar have simple approach...DO NOT say No to anyone...be diplomatic and in the end do what ever u want to do...u'll always find excuses to be presented to these MNAs/MPAs and Nazims...they 'll play in ur hands dun u worry,the process through which v r sellected these Politicians ca'nt out smart us...believe me its a fact...but remember never say staright NO to anyone...be diplomatic

well from an ASP to SP it takes minimum of 2.5 years after ur STP is over...but finally it comes to the available seats in front of u...if seat is available then u get promoted just after 2.5 years but if seats are'nt avalable then it could take 3 years too...!!!

No age limit is'nt being extended to 30...


I tried to give all the Qs u asked...am on leave as am leaving for UK after Eid for my LLM(crime) so by then I am available so if u wanna ask more,u are more than welcomed


Regards,

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hmmm..thatz right. well best of luck with your tour... i think this is the attractive thing in CSS ( foreign tours) . have you ever been to u.k or other foreign country with an official trip before?

U rightly said about political diplomacy...but situation may vary from province to province. when did u join this service?

STP stands for? Sir what is the duration of training after qualifynig for ASP?

ahhh.. u scored nicely coz CAz r sharp at accounting. i will be more good at management kind of courses, but accounting will also do!

will be in touch INSHALLAH!

Regards

No I hav'nt been to UK on official tour before (I am not that old in Civil Service,just arrived in it)

Yeah situation might vary from province to province so does political political diplomacy varies too (PSP does take toll on your nerves) I passed in CSS-2005(34th Common)

STP stands for Specialised Training Programme,for PSP it is held @ Sahala, duration of training of an ASP after sellection from year to year, normally 7-8 month Combined Training Programme (CTP) at Lahore, then 9 month STP at Sahala,then few weeks Elite force course at lahore & Undertrainig ASP period too,so it takes about 20 months almost to come in field.

I have come in field just a few months back,it was just my second posting before getting leave for studies.

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Dear Mr. Tahir,
I want to know that if after your allocation in PSP and training period you want to go for Ph.d in criminology. Upto what extent the government support such a candidate (e.g. in with-pay leaves, monetry funding and securing admission in any foriegn universities)?. Secondly, is there any institute in Pakistan that offers such degrees in criminology, or any other foriegn institute from which this kind of degree could be obtained while not leaving Pakistan?. Thirdly, how much does such studies of your relevent profession helps you?(esp. in getting fast promotions).
I'll wait for your reply
Regards

Well...As far as foreign Universities are concerned I do'nt have any idea except Oxford,getting a degree without leaving pakistan...i do'nt think it is possible.

You have to arrange your admission yourself in the foreign university, then apply through proper channel for leave,you will most of the cases get the study leave...during your stay in other country u'll get around 70-90 k's + your pakistani salary will be credited to your account (in pak) as usual.

In pakistan no such degree is offered,only PU recently started awarding BSc(Crime) degree to STP pass students.

This will not help you getting fast promotions..rather it will help you getting promotion in time (out of promotions are banned)

Regards,

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TAHIR Sahab, I went thru ur profile, u are CA and then u went for CSS. Its strange. If not mind, have you finished F module / all modules of CA or just at start of CA u changed idea and went for CSS. Becaze with full CA and after that CSS , may be ur age would be near to limit of 28/30 for CSS. Overall , its very encouraging and congratulating work.

Well...Zaheer, as u have already visited my profile and seen that I am CA and CA means qualified Chartered Accountant,others who do not pass write "CA-Finalist"

I don'nt know whom are you talking about who qualify at age of 28-30...as far I am concerned i joined CA after my Fsc (17 years of age) did my BA (private) during my CA and qualified when i was 23 1/2 years of age...yes i took CSS exam when i was'nt qualified,passed my BFD paper during my CTP. I am not sure what people are you talking about who qualify at age of 28,may be they don't have anything else to do in life expect doing CA...and remember being a CSP officer is way ahead of being a CA..No comparison infact.

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