Well Rizwan you are right that i was stupid to run after IRS... God knows best and does what is best in your interest.. I am so thankful to Lord for everything when i got to know the details of MLC group. However, i'd still be going for PSP because I have a passion for it. I want to continue my dad legacy as an honest, hardworking PSP officer.
In a nutshell, as i mentioned earlier that MLC is restraining me from working hard because I find my life to be the best in this group but i want to go for PSP because APNAY LYE TO SAB HI JEETAY HAIN YAR...
No one know PSP better than me cuz when i was born my dad was ASP and I know that if you dont have a passion for it then you should keep it at no 10th.. and trust me if you go to PSPs serving they'll second my opinion... several say that they are stuck with psp and want to move abroad and all of these guys are who went for PSP without passion and now repenting..

in My humble opinion my choice would be like this

1. PSP (owing to my passion for it)
2. DMG/MLC
4. FSP (its paid vacation.. govt. pays you to go on vacations)
5. IRS (Its a far far better group than Customs now)
6. C&Tg (you can call it a sister group of FSP, work as foreign attache or setup your own business)
7. Customs (post are few now and good ones still fewer, promotions are now extremely slow, highly politicized deptt. in terms of getting postings)
8. PAAS
9. Railway group (has enormous facilities)
10. Postal group (facilities and peaceful job with huge powers like recruiting a 14th grade officer when you are urself in 17th)
11.OMG (you'll be doing the job which DMG people hate to do i.e. moving the files up and down... you'll remain the staff officer of DMG secretaries) mostly
12. Info. Group

The above is strictly my personal point of you.. anyone can dissent from it

ali bhae there is only one difference between our group preferences !!! like i would prefer FSP over DMG/MLCG........

and i 2nd u being passionate for PSP.........


could u plz elaborate this statement

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@ All

What type of duties are performed by MLCG officers ?

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The duties of CEO even in 17th grade are same as of DCOs in their respective districts and just to quote few are to levy taxes, to collect revenue, to look after health dept. i.e. hospitals and dispensaries of cantt. to cause development of the area like road construction sewage system water system garden etc etc etc

lol good one...i m in love wid dis group too n hve decided to keep it at top of my pref. we need honest officers everywhere not only in dmg n psp...har koi apne liyai jeeta hai we will live for our brave army support dem in strengthenin dis beloved nation n b a dco of cant in grade 17. y wait for several years in dmg n psp when u can fetch so much power in mlc in ur first post n hve bigger sphere to control n improve the conditions of ur society even widout being sycophant of ny politician .mlc all the way...i hope dis govt. doesnt take out mlc from csp cadre nxt year like dey did it in past

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cant area resides in districts, right ?? then why an officer from MLCG controls CANT area like a DCO???? isn't CANT area comes in the jurisdiction of DCO ?????

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No. Cantonments do not fall under the jurisdiction of District Governments or for that matter provincial governments. These are federal areas operating under MPML (Manual for Pakistan Military Law).
And secondly, CEO or MEO have to report to the Cantt Station Commander and/or Log Area Commander.

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Having lived most of my life in cantts and being son of a senior army officer I have following observations about MLCG.

MLCG is a decent and nice group but I totally disagree with the rosy picture painted about this group in this thread. MLCG is far behind IRS and PAAS, what to talk of DMG or PSP. I disagree that their perks and privileges are better than DMG or PSP. Secondly, "afsari" comes when there is a great deal of public dealing involved. Whereas, CEO mostly deals with serving and retired army officials (the real afsars). He has to obey the station commander (serving brigadier) and even Colonel Staff (serving colonel) of GOC. The CEO can't even refuse an ADC (serving captain) of the GOC. He can’t say no to any army officer in the course of his duty. Having lived in the cantonment areas all my life I know how the CEO is treated by the army officers. Thirdly, there is a lot of bribery and corruption involved in this group from bottom to top. The house that is given to the CEO is usually pre-partition built and its like a dark old bungalow full of cockroaches and other insecticides. Whereas, a DCO gets a well maintained lavish 22 canals house full of dedicated servants and armed police guards.

Another point is authority. Dr Ali Zaidi says that CEO is part of a military bureaucracy (I just couldn’t stop laughing when I read this). The realty is that military bureaucracy consists only of serving army officers. Its chain of command lies in the GHQ and its reigns are in the hands of Corp Commanders. A CEO in his wildest dreams can never become a part of a military bureaucracy. And MLCG officers are considered either outcasts or unimportant when it comes to civilian bureaucracy. This group has absolutely no role in policy making even at the cantonment board level. CEO only carries out the farmans of military bosses. And in the cantonment areas he is usually addressed as “rashi” (bribe taker). On the other hand DMG, PSP, IRS and PAAS officers are the REAL bureaucracy of this country. They are the ones who have the major role in policy making and implementation.

Yet another misconception is that it is considered that MLCG is very close to the army circles and hence this group is very influential or resourceful. In reality army officers have totally different mindset and psyche. Even the civilians working in the ISI are considered outsiders or bloody civilians (as Kamran Shafi would have it). And it is useless to expect that you can get personal favors from the army officers. Army officers believe in "an arms's distance" when it comes to dealing with non army people. The crux is that MLCG group has no independent identity or authority like DMG or PSP. I personally know a retired MEO living in a rented 2 room apartment in defense as he had to sell his plots (his only precious possessions from MLCG) to afford education to his sons in the UK. And about his relations with senior army officers he says “un ki gernailee ka muhje koi faida nahi hai” and “they don’t even attend my phone” and “na eid mubarik sms ka reply kiya”. This was his response when I asked him why he didn’t ask the GOC to get his son admitted in NED University. After serving this group for so many years under the nose of army officers this chap is still stranger in army circles and civilian bureaucracy. Finally, when I asked him if I should place MLCG in my top four group preference? He replied that I should place this group lower than IRS and PAAS .

However, MLCG officer do get a government vehicle. And if his conscious is dead then he can get the cantonment board employees to work at his house as personal servants. But again this is not their privilege but corruption. They live in peaceful but boring places called cants and their kids study mostly in Army Public Schools. All in all a very low exposure and scope throughout service.

If you are offended by this post then please ignore it. However, it is my belief that one should not misguide juniors/css aspirants/qualifiers about any particular group. Therefore, I shared my honest and genuine observation about this group.

cheers,
floydian

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My dearest floydian !!

The CEO can't even refuse an ADC (serving captain) of the GOC. He can’t say no to any army officer in the course of his duty.

My godness, man you're so heated up. You have an army background, I can clearly see that TYPICAL HATRED towards civilians in your post. I have seen zillions times your "ADC" giving TEA to CEO's MEO's in tea breaks. Brother don't get so excited, at least you should recheck your post in order to know what you've been typing.


The house that is given to the CEO is usually pre-partition built and its like a dark old bungalow full of cockroaches and other insecticides. Whereas, a DCO gets a well maintained lavish 22 canals house full of dedicated servants and armed police guards.

Hahahahaha. Do you mind if i post some pictures of MLCG bunglows. and let the people decide???? Don't say YES, because you'll be eating your own words my friend. I still can't stop laughing at cockroaches. hehehehe. sorry.

Another point is authority. Dr Ali Zaidi says that CEO is part of a military bureaucracy (I just couldn’t stop laughing when I read this). The realty is that military bureaucracy consists only of serving army officers. Its chain of command lies in the GHQ and its reigns are in the hands of Corp Commanders. A CEO in his wildest dreams can never become a part of a military bureaucracy. And MLCG officers are considered either outcasts or unimportant when it comes to civilian bureaucracy.

Who SAYS what is totally irrelevant my friend. If you ask a CSP he doesn't WANT army to come and be a part of Civil Bureaucracy. He hates army. We don't WANT to become a part of army, please forgive us. I agree Military Bureaucracy include ONLY army officers. What zaidi meant was something else, obviously a CSP can't be or should i say don't wanna be a part of Military Bureaucracy.

Yet another misconception is that it is considered that MLCG is very close to the army circles and hence this group is very influential or resourceful. In reality army officers have totally different mindset and psyche. Even the civilians working in the ISI are considered outsiders or bloody civilians (as Kamran Shafi would have it).

It depends on the officer my friend. And please don't get in to the dirty discussion of what kind of mindsets civilians or army men have. We're well aware of Lakeer k Fakeer fauji mentality. Again you're talking irrelevant.


I personally know a retired MEO living in a rented 2 room apartment in defense as he had to sell his plots (his only precious possessions from MLCG) to afford education to his sons in the UK.

For heaven sake, don't generalize things. What kind of retired life you will be having totaly depends on you. I have seen many people spending like anything in their jobs, no future planning at all, nothing and at the age of retirement they have simply nothing. It indicates something about the habits or should i say maturity of that particular officer. It has nothing to do with the job. and one more thing, CONTACTS depends on you, if you're a social and CHALTA PHIRTA insan then half of the Pakistan will know you but if you're otherwise, you'll come and go and nobody will even notice.

However, MLCG officer do get a government vehicle. And if his conscious is dead then he can get the cantonment board employees to work at his house as personal servants. But again this is not their privilege but corruption. They live in peaceful but boring places called cants and their kids study mostly in Army Public Schools.

Again I would really love to know about your source. Because MEO CEO has almost TEN DESIGNATED SERVANTS. for example residence MALEE is residence malee, he has nothing to do with the gardening of the office because for that they've SEPARATE malees. I have seen with my own eyes. and about boring places. If you want me to give ADDRESSES of all the houses of MLCG all over Pakistan, you'll see names like Defense, Mall Road etc etc. If living in THESE kind of areas is boring then suite yourself mate. I can hardly help you.



I'm so sorry if i offended you but please next time come with some pure plain facts with real life references... not with ARMY THINKS....ARMY THIS ...ARMY THAT.

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