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Default OMG-A misunderstood Group.

I am a civil Servant from OMG. I dont want to Disclose my identity but for the sake of truth i am here. I swear by ALLAH whatever i will post here will be based on 100% truth.

To start with , I am proud to be an officer from OMG and much satisfied with this group. When i was allocated into OMG, i didn't have any know-how about this. I read certain posts here relating to OMG and felt discouraged that i have landed in such a group that is not so good. But this was not so. Even in CSA , the image of OMG was not good. But as i joined STI and Federal Secretariat, I got very happy and satisfied coz sometime something proves to be blessing in disguise and this exactly happened in my case.

OMG is a better service. OMG ends after 18 Grade, and then Secretariat Group starts. It is one of components of All Pakistan unified grades. What is All Pakistan Unified Grades (APUG):

1.DMG 2.PSP.3.Secretariat Group composes APUG. Officers of APUG can be posted anywhere in Pakistan and enjoy a good scope.

Secretariat Group: All OMG officers go into Secretariat Group and then there is quota for other occupational Groups like Custom, Audit and accounts postal , IRS, etc. hardly other officers can go into it and there is limited quota. Going into Secretariat Group is dream of every civil servant. OMG officers are lucky that they all go into it.
Even DMG officers join Secretariat group in 19 and above. there is no post of BPS 22 in DMG, after reaching 21 all DMG officers have to join it.

Y there is quota for other groups in Secretariat Group??? it is because Secretariat group is the Largest group in terms of strength and posts.
example: all Deputy secretaries, Joint secretaries, Addl secretaries and Secretaries of federal secretariat, PM secretariat national assembly etc and higher officers of all federal Dept are from This group.


In 17 and 18 BPS, OMG officers are exposed to high environment. A lot of foreign tours, etc. OMG officers can be posted in all federal Ministries. This is not deputation but a direct posting. No dept has such a diversified culture.

Moreover ,there is diverse areas for Section Officers: example: S.O admin, S.O General., S.O in different section with variable tasks..Besides, OMG officers can be PSO to Minister, Secretaries.These are not Deputations but direct postings.

Salary and house rent allowance , conveyance and other allowance are same as for Audit and accounts , Postal, MLCG, Foreign service, etc This is so because Federal Service rules apply to all officer in likewise manner.
DMG and PSP officers get Houses and vehicles coz they perform field jobs. They don't get House and car allowances.
I dont have official house at Islamabad but i get higher salary than a DMG friend. House for DMG and PSP in islamabd is difficult too. Even 19 grade PSP officers lives in small houses or no house and so is the case with DMG officers..It is not so that you are DMG officer or PSP officer and a beautiful house is given to u.
My friend from PSP had posting in Islamabad and was no accommodation ...he compelldly lived in National Police academy in one room.
A DMG friend had one-room accommodation in islamabad. Is this accommodation you die for.?.Aiysee accomodation aapko hi Naseeb ho. ;-)

Being an OMG officer you can live in Federal Lodges if u have good source or if u are without any political or bureaucratic source u hire a room..Solved.
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Good to hear from about this group as it is the most silent cadre of this forum.So u wrote about foreign tours,whats the purpose of these tours and have you ever been to such tours.
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@ Mini98,

Yes. OMG officers are lucky enough to enjoy foreign tours/trips. It is because they serve at Federal Secretariat (Secretariat means Multitude of Ministries/divisions/Offices) and all foreign courses are sent and processed at Federal Secretariat.
As about why Foreign tours/course are provided , It actually trains/ sensitizes the govt officers about new things/courses/trends. There are two types of Tours:

1. For getting a degree/ course/diploma/etc from international Academies/Institutes/Universities/colleges.

2. For attending a Meeting/Conference as a representative of Govt of Pakistan.


I am also an OMG officer. I grabbed such an opportunity in the very beginning of my career.
When i was going abroad ,my DMG friends were under training(U.T)..;-)
Uptill now, 80% of our Friends of OMG have visited a number of Countries. Some for 8 times, some 5 times , some 2 times,and some once. It also depends on an officer how crazy he/she is. if He/she is crazy for it, then no limit.

OMG officers were first in 37th ,38th and 39th CTPs who went Abroad officially. They went abroad even before Foreign service Friends of the respective batches.

Now as about my common, By GOD, after Foreign service, It is OMG which has served its officer foreign courses/degrees/trips more than any other group or service..


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how do you compare an OMG Officer who gets through CSS with the one who enters OMG through SOPE(section officers promotional exam).????
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OMG is a better service. OMG ends after 18 Grade, and then Secretariat Group starts. It is one of components of All Pakistan unified grades. What is All Pakistan Unified Grades (APUG):

1.DMG 2.PSP.3.Secretariat Group composes APUG. Officers of APUG can be posted anywhere in Pakistan and enjoy a good scope.
When OMG Officer enters into Secretariat Group can he/she be posted in provinces like PAS Officers on regular posting? cz i have not seen such cases that an OMG officer of BPS-19 is regularly posted in our province Balochistan without deputation.
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@Xeric,

Dear bro, Yes PMG officers are posted at provices once they are Secretariat Group. OMG officers in 19 BPS are part and parcel of Secretariat Group which itself is one of the components of All Pakistan Unified Grade (APUG).


As about example of such officers, I would say scores of such officers are serving in provinces for decades. In Punjab where i am currently posted, a number of officers are here. Likewise in SIndh, KPK, AJK.

As for Balochistan, Not to speak of Secretariat Group officers, even PSP and DMG officers dont desire to be posted there. A Huge number of Secretariat Group officers from Balochistan prefers posting at center. Example: Azra Jamali . she is serving as commercial attache to Belgium. Such names can go on and on.Many others are here in Punjab.


Anyway, the point is: OMG officers can be posted on directly. If you think its not true, Read ESTA code. Things will get clear. Indeed PAS officers' service too is landed to provinces for a particular period.Last point: many DMG/PAS officers join Secretariat Group in 19 and 20 BPS. If you want to see them, go to Federal Secretariat , ISlamabad. Senior PAS officers will agree to it.
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Sir! What should be the preferences of the occupational groups while applying for CSS exam? What would you suggest keeping in view your own experience?
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dear faisal please tell me whether S.Os from promotional exam can also be considered as OMG officers and also tell me about their promotions.
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Respected sir ! Masha'ALLAH good to hear from you, congratulations for being a CSP-indeed ALLAH TALA has blessed you with a great achievement that every one of us wants. Sir I shall be very grateful to you if you please share your study strategy and how you attempted paper like how much to write and how to design answer of questions in the given 3 hours.

Sir please share with us so that we all aspirants would get benefit of it. May ALLAH TALA bless you. Thanks in anticipation

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Sir! What should be the preferences of the occupational groups while applying for CSS exam? What would you suggest keeping in view your own experience?

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In preferences, Keep PSP, and DMG on Top. They have good promotional chances and enjoy all good facilities at the start of their career. The rest of the groups as per your liking. I will suggest you to keep FSP on third. OMG, i personally believe is better than many other groups but it be kept at mid.

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dear faisal please tell me whether S.Os from promotional exam can also be considered as OMG officers and also tell me about their promotions.
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yes bro, officers recruited through Promotional Exam are part of OMG. Same facilities for them. We own them. But usually high age men are recruited, they get retired at 19 or 20 Grade. if you are younger, it will lead u to secretary designation too. Anyway, S.O via promotional exam has bright future. Do join if stand qualified. welcome Bro.

Note: OMG is a largest group in terms of strength and posts of officers. Hence Officers are recruited via Direct CSS exam, Promotional exam, via Transfer (for specified time).

Since Officers from Promotional exam and Tranfer for specified time are posted at secretariat, they compromise to everything. For example, poor offices, facilities, etc.
But CSP (OMG) officers do not compromise and demand high exposure.

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