What a lame rhetoric of joining dmg for improving the lives of the poor people lol.
Why dont these people join part time NGO's and social welfare organizations free of cost? I wonder how many do that??

Majority of the people do it for themselves and to enjoy authority while claiming social service and other such ideals. I think such guys shud go to their mamas to.learn some honesty dat they dint learn in childhood

That is the point. To sacrifice everything for the betterment of the country. If you want a big salary, then join some multi-national company. Salary doesn't matter for an honest CSS officer as long as it is enough to fulfill the basic necessities.

I agree with you. Infact, a member of the Commission reacted to the candidate's reply on the same question of why he wanted to be a part of Civil Service.
Not being personal to anyone, but, surely, i suspect the intentions of anyone who claims to join civil service solely for public service.

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Emotional statements like sacrificing everything etc etc..Follow the example of Edhi sahab and make him your role model if people are so much interested in public service. Dont have to be a dmg officer for public service. By the way every1 knows what type of public service civil servants are interested.

You want angels to serve humanity.You can enjoy authority while serving people at the same time,there is nothing wrong with that.Everybody deserve good life and,people will be served only when ones's own conditions are good.Not everyone can be Edhi Sahab,have you ever heard of human diversity?so put a halt to your useless rant.

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U can not serve in such a condition when you are paid 40,000 Rs
while 10 crores are at your disposal. Have some logic in your arguments. People daily witness what happens in public offices, officers are like gora sahab as far as serving humanity is concerned. Bribe is a custom. Papers are full of embezzlement cases of such people serving poor people lol. The life style of officers speak otherwise of their meagre incomes. THAT IS WHAT IS PRACTICALLY HAPPENING AND HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR LAST SO MANY YEARS. Such ideal have been claimed since 1980's or so. Why then there is no change? Why public speaks otherwise? If you are so much concerned about nation building, become school teachers and teach in villages. Why no1 is interested in school teaching if public service and nation building is so important????

The interest of a Bureaucrat and the Public seldom converge. There have been instances where some dignified names of Pakistan's Bureaucracy have practiced objective standards of Administration, and exercised power purely for the good of Masses. On the contrary, there are some notorious names who have blatantly ignored the essence of public policies, preached flagrant disregard of merit, and invented a certain type of culture that is endemic within our National system !

The point is, a Public Officer and the Public do not necessarily have diametrically opposed agendas. Any bureaucrat who has the genuine impulse of a Government servant, will facilitate the Public as much as he can do, keeping in mind his/her powers or capabilities, and the long term impact of his/her decisions.

Comments and criticism welcomed !

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One can not perform efficiently if he does not have job satisfaction. There is nothing bad in PAS but actually problem inherently lies in our system. A PAS officer who works as an AC has to perform alot of work. His social and family life is disturbed. He is posted in remote areas. He has funds of millions at his disposal but he is paid a salary of 50,000 rs which is a joke. In his profession, he has no security of transfers. Political interest and the bureaucratic system itself puts alot of stress upon honest officers. That is why, many consider PAS not good

@ Nathan algren.

EXACTLY. If PAS officers are paid adequately, they have no insecurity of transpers and if their job is apolitical, then PAS is a very good group. But viweing ground realities, 95 percent officers can't resist the system. They dont change the system, the system changes them. Some remain honest but become indifferent to their jobs, just passing their time. Remaining 5 percent remain rolling stones for seniors or politicians. Honestly, every batch has only 2-3 such officers

Its a matter of opinion. In my opinion to fix this system one instead of complaining that the system is corrupt and broken, should join it and try to bring a change to the best of their abilities.

But for you the act of helping people can only be done by joining NGO and/or social welfare society. So please take some time and think before declaring the intents of someone aspiring to become CSP fully on gaining authority and other facilities.

This is exactly the reason why so many capable people don't consider joining the civil bureaucracy and settle for some high paying private companies. But do you think that the government will change their policy. Nope! If you are not interested in the job then someone else who is less capable and more prone not to change the system (and even has the intention to to do corruption) will take your place.

Then after some years, you yourself while reading the newspaper will make the usual comments like this country is full of corrupt and no one stands up to change the system or run the system honestly.

The point is if you want to make a difference then you have to sacrifice all your comforts and works 24/7 for it.