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Please qualifiers of css 2011 dont join PAAS
Assalamulaikum
i am a 34 commoner , currently working as Deputy director in audit guys 6 years down the road and i have no future PAAS group is now the most pathetic occupational group In 2010 SC up graded audit officers , AAOs and senior audit officers to grade 18 , 17 and 16 and also they have now antedated seniority in their respective grades Now all my subordinate audit officers are senior to me as i earned grade 18 this year , while my once subordinates are in grade 18 since 2005. All these up graded officials have gone into the court for their promotions and as result our grade 19 DPCs are stopped. If they win there will be more than 1000 officers above even the 26 common. we have practically no authority over any one. No body is legally bound to report to us and despite our clamoring our department is not heeded towards correcting the most absurd and irrational administrative set up. the departmental officers have challenged the seniority of grade 19 PAAS officers In districts we are faced by another threat. that is provinicialization of accounts as you can see the ad by PPSC for treasury officers PAAS is indeed a dying cadre . Many of our grade 20 and 21 posts ie CFAO and DAG are the most redundant and useless posts in government machinery you can imagine. Moreover the whole district audit set up is under jeopardy, meaning grade 19 post will be terminated , thus limiting our future prospects very bleak. despite me a CSP , i have no official residence , no allowance as remuneration and now i have no authority or superiority over even the audit officers. The departmental cadre are well connected , politically influential and also backed by our senior PAAS officers. ( since 2005 , they have recruited many of their relatives in departmental cadres , now grade 18 AOs ) Also the annihilation of PAAS will pave the way for finance to manage their own accounts. our deputations in provincial cadres are also being challenged . so please dont entangled your self in this mess. Opt for other careers . I invite other PAAS officers to dilute upon the topic and make every aspirant well aware of problem he would face by joining PAAS |
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perhaps Sir nauman of 34th common can also shed some light on the situation that you have shown. it is really a disturbing picture for all the qualifiers , since some of them will be posted in PAAS .
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what I have heard about PAAS is cent percent contrary to what Ikramullahkhan has said. One of my teacher is a PAAS officer from CE 2007. 4 years down the road, now he is in grade 18.
According to him, PAAS is one of the best departments to work for. I says achievements of an officer are not due to its group rather due to his dedication and work. If somebody really works hard, he will get its reward. I think everyone, no matter from PAAS, IRS, Customs, Railways, Postal etc or DMG, gets a fair chance to become grade 22 officer. what is needed, his professional skills and dedication. But am confused after reading Ikramullah and wonder whom to believe?????
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sir apni marzi se koi audit and account mein nahin ata. jin candidates ke mkskam ate hain unhe majbooran PAAS join karna prta hai. what other option do they have? sab ko pata hai ke upper wale groups ache hai aur service strucre behtar hai par agar mks na ae acheto kiya ho sakta hai.
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Our departmental cadre are holding DAO slots , foreign postings on our disposal. I am just creating awareness that since 2010 and 2011 , our whole cadre is being targeted by Finance division and departmental cadres. they have huge finances and we are marginalized because we dont have plenty of illegal money. we are not DMG and we have serious problems with our seniors. They want us out and their fav Departmental cadres in for corruption and nepotism i am just warning the fresh entrants not to entangled them selves in the mess we are in because frankly as our departmental cadres are supported by AGP , we are unaware what would become of us. Just one thing to elaborate my dear , DAGP is now the only department where the fourth tier is now junior in entry to grade to fifth tier our senior have up graded more than 1500 AOs against sanctioned 700 odd departmental cadre slots and now they are supporting them in courts to become grade 19 , making them qualified to become APUGs . about CFAO and DAG , ask any senior civil servants , no body is giving them any power as no body wants independence of audit. so seriously all these posts are just sham please let the dust get settled and than join PAAS if any body is allocated PAAS he must go to writ petition in HC to save his attempt. Just ask the FPSC and DAGP of the position they are hiring you for ie as AO or AAO and also ask about the service structure ensured if the on going litigations in FST ( ie IDC Vs Dc) are won by Departmental officers |
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But don't worry, it is the matter of posting. If you are posted to a good city, the things may be different. It is a fact that almost every department is going through transformation and we do not know that after 10 years what the situation would be. For example people are asking for reforms in Railways, DMG, Police etc. So, in the beginning of one's career it is difficult to see how the situation would be after 10/20 years. Same thing happened during Musharraf era when DMG officer went to litigation against Devolution Plan and asked FPSC to re-allocate them. The demand did have some sense, but SC gave its verdict in favour of FPSC by saying that changes in service structure does not make an officer eligible to change the service group. So, instead of being disappointed, I think you should visit two or three PAAS officers in your area and discuss with them. Than you can have pretty good idea of the service.
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That is really despicable situation. I request Waseem Riaz Khan & other senior PAAS officers to please guide us.
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If anyone is allocated PAAS , he must go to court and ask FPSC and DAGP about the service structure they are offering. It is concealment of facts . We had induction of earlier grade 16 AAO from FPSC , but when Court (Or the department rather) had given departmental cadre antedated seniority to dc we have now two induction in grade 17 by FPSC . FPSC is well aware of the situation , but my dear fellows all is swept under the carpet as the destruction of PAAS will favour many interest groups in establishment . It will pave the way for all institutions to get themselves free of any accountability and mange their own accounts and conceal misappropriation under the hood of doing their own preaudit. A group which had produced the earlier finance secretaries , ministers and was instrumental in making institutions like state bank , planning commission , five year plans , is now fighting for its survival Our group manages the accounts of military , navy and air force and perform audit as well. The recruitment to this group was always made by CSS even before 1973 If any body has any doubts about the importance of this group go and surf for accounts and audit in other countries However in Pakistan finance is maintaining accounts unconstitutionally. Against all prudence we have two set ups , one completely beyond the ambit of Auditor general of Pakistan If departmental cadre wins, all government machinary would have auditors well suited for the culture of governance. There are matriculate grade 16 and FA/FSC grade 18 officers Never recruited on merit , they know the ways promtions is earned in Pakistan. Hush money and black mailing. |
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