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salam to everyone ,
i m just adding something in knowledge of u people about powers of the FIA officials and that of the PSP. so girls and guys, FIA is an Investigation Agency, every country only has one investigation agency working in it, as India has CBI, U.S.A has FBI, powers that an Investigation Agency can exercise are beyond the reach of the POLICE GROUP. as PSP are watch dogs they hold the administrative posts so they do not have the experience of investigation where as in FIA officer cadre that starts from Sub-inspector , Inspector, Asst.director all work as I.O(investigation officer) having the same powers as given by the FIA act 1974 , so they have the field experience as police officers while the PSPz are empty uniform they do not have the field experience . and thats why the police system in Pak is below pathetic due to the PSPz, now i would also like to clear the misunderstanding of one member , who thinks that PSPz prefer to be get posted in field rather to have posting in FIA, every police officer has his dream to get posting in FIA because of the following reasons.
1 Jurisdiction of FIA is world wide where ever Pakistani national lives .
2 In police even the IGPz are treated as the subject of the politicians and ministers , while in FIA they are all treated as subject of the agency.
3 Better foreign courses and trainings while in police they cant even think about it,
4 Most importantly to make relations , in order to get away with the corruption that they had done in past or which they are going to do in future.
5 working as I.O no one mess with the investigation of a FIA official , while in police its pathetic.
6 Individual assignments are given no 24/7 presence in police station is required.
now i think u can better judge the difference,
no doubt the police or the PSP have greater charm , but the true cop soul only exist in field work of investigation, if one do not have the field experience it can never become a good administrator.
army have the top brass with field experience and u can see how strong the army is , police has the top brass without field experience and how weak our police system is.
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Your concept about police and its working needs to be corrected? it seems that your barometer of judging a department's efficiency/inefficiency is only field experience. Sir, police is inefficient because there are many other reasons for it and army is strong because of different reasons. Who said police don't get field experience? What is your perception of field experience? FIA and police are all law and order departments and come under one ministry. They work in their own respective domains. Ask any FIA official, he would suggest you to do CSS and join PSP.
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salam bro, nice to see ur reply on this topic. sir from field experience means the vast interaction of the police officers with different kind of tough situtations in the daily course of life regarding the investigation, it also includes the ground realities, and the bitter realities that a police officer encounter in his day to day proceedings in order to investigate.
Field experience only comes with the passage of time, the key elements in field expeience are how many time a police officer has lead the raid party, how many criminals have been arrested by the police officer, and number of cases investigated. now sir plz tell me does any PSP ever do all these things in his practical life?????????? exceptions are always there.
so my dear bro how come an adminsterator can implement reforms and devise plan for thr betterment of the police system while he dont know the loopholes of that every system.
so every efficient and strong dept has their top brass with field experience. this PSP system in police was originally introduced by the English in sub-contient in order to have control on the public , these PSP were pro- english and english at that time , they did every thing in the interest of English people, while the people of sub-contient were given jobs up to rank of Inspector, this police rule that was formulated by the english people for the slave subject still exist though we have got freedom. sir if this police system is really excellent then y England itself not adopted this PSP system?
so the big hurdle in the betterment of police system are these PSP.
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in css only those candidates should be given PSP group who has thier experience in relvant field, rather than to put a layman on this crucial post.
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Dear All, main diff between PSP & FIA......

1.PSP rank holder is a CSP but an FIA officer z not.
2.PSP has faster promotion than FIA
(it takes 10-15 years for AD FIA to be promored to Dep D)
3.No vertical or horizontal mobility in FIA like Police group.
4.An FIA officer has no powers like DPO....they ve only investigation powers in diff cases specialy ADs ve to depend on SI n Inspector report.
5.FIA officers have no specail assignments like PSPs.
6.PSP officers ve special prestige due to their career growth moreover in FIA mostly political postings as an AD and above.
7.FIA officers have no filed assighnment like PSPs
8.Only v less people come in contact with FIA whereas PSP is the need of every person.
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Both have their own values and area of work.Fia hired 16 and upper scale from FPSC recruitment process where as PSP hired through FPSC proper channel...but i may prefer PSP is far better then other investigation department.
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As a career PSP is better but when it comes to power and contacts, nothing beats FIA. As a ASP in a police station you would deal with criminals/murderers and lowest strata of society but as AD in FIA you would be investigating crimes of much bigger nature involving the elite, case in point recent NICL/Moonis Elahi fiasco. My father was an AD in FIA and each and every case he handled involved big shots, including Sharifs, Bhuttos, Presidents of Banks etc. He also arrested several politicians. Can you imagine a ASP or SP doing this? This isn't even their domain.
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As a career PSP is better but when it comes to power and contacts, nothing beats FIA. As a ASP in a police station you would deal with criminals/murderers and lowest strata of society but as AD in FIA you would be investigating crimes of much bigger nature involving the elite, case in point recent NICL/Moonis Elahi fiasco. My father was an AD in FIA and each and every case he handled involved big shots, including Sharifs, Bhuttos, Presidents of Banks etc. He also arrested several politicians. Can you imagine a ASP or SP doing this? This isn't even their domain.
Comaring PSP with FIA is same as comparing a JCO with Commissioned Officer in Pak Army.
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Can AD FIA comes in police? no
Who is DG FIA? PSP officers.
Many director of FIA are from PSP.
FIA test 100 marks. PSP test most tough exam in country.
These things clear many perception of FIA.
FIA is more corrupt than PSP.
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Both are authoritative and good jobs but PSP is better than AD(FIA) because there is more interaction with public in PSP
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