[QUOTE=rana raheel;499014]Only sp have vigo hilux but asp i thnk jeeb of navy blue color...BY THWAY apne asp bunna hai ya vehicle kharedni hai????[/QUOTE]

In most cases even SP doesn't get a Vigo. :p.
By the way I am smiling at the mindset on this thread. :). Yahan kitne logon ko Vigo ka shok hai :P

[QUOTE=dazedandconfused;498754]Only a select few officers get VIGO while in the rank of ASP, many SP's or rather the majority of SP's also don't get a VIGO as the official car although the 3 door cruiser that they get is in a far better condition relative to the one that ASP's get.[/QUOTE]

i asked an ASP about the vehicles , he replied

"[B]asp or any PSP alwasy gets the best vehicle available ... sometimes its land cruier blue jeep or sometimes toyota vigo "[/B]

[QUOTE=tahir asiif;499396]i asked an ASP about the vehicles , he replied

"[B]asp or any PSP alwasy gets the best vehicle available ... sometimes its land cruier blue jeep or sometimes toyota vigo "[/B][/QUOTE]
Surely they get the best vehicle possible (for their rank) which in most cases is the 3 door cruiser and very rarely do they get a VIGO. Almost all the regional offices have some good cars available but keep in mind that "the best possible" scenario holds true for the senior ranks as well hence the newly appointed ASP's just get the best available from the remaining lot.
Please don't drag this topic anymore, everyone knows that although the civil services has it's perks and privileges but it can never compete with the private sector on these things. It's one thing acquiring information to judge whether you can survive on the salary and other benefits that one is provided during your service but basing your judgement on the model or the kind of car you get is downright shallow (with all due respect).

[QUOTE=dazedandconfused;499430]Surely they get the best vehicle possible (for their rank) which in most cases is the 3 door cruiser and very rarely do they get a VIGO. Almost all the regional offices have some good cars available but keep in mind that "the best possible" scenario holds true for the senior ranks as well hence the newly appointed ASP's just get the best available from the remaining lot.
Please don't drag this topic anymore, everyone knows that although the civil services has it's perks and privileges but it can never compete with the private sector on these things. It's one thing acquiring information to judge whether you can survive on the salary and other benefits that one is provided during your service but basing your judgement on the model or the kind of car you get is downright shallow (with all due respect).[/QUOTE]
Agreed 100%.
If one wants cars and money then the Private sector is far, far ahead.

[QUOTE=talalz3;499436]Agreed 100%.
If one wants cars and money then the Private sector is far, far ahead.[/QUOTE]

Who are you kidding with here? In Pakistan its the other way around, cars and moeny is in Government Jobs, private sector sucks the life out of you. That is why everyone wants to be a CSS officer even though the average salary won't ever exceed 60,000 throughout their career. Just check out these forums, 90% of the threads are people asking about 'power' and 'perks'. No one gives a rats shit about this country.

[QUOTE=CaptainPakistan;499566]Who are you kidding with here? In Pakistan its the other way around, cars and moeny is in Government Jobs, private sector sucks the life out of you. That is why everyone wants to be a CSS officer even though the average salary won't ever exceed 60,000 throughout their career. Just check out these forums, 90% of the threads are people asking about 'power' and 'perks'. No one gives a rats shit about this country.[/QUOTE]


hahahaha very well said, i am also en engineering student but still i want css which proves ur theory correct, but bro who said that the average salary is 60000??? now the ASP in GB, ISLAMABAD , LAHORE , BALOCHISTAN are taking 60k+ , so your this point is wrong bcoz PSP is giving far better salary ( dont mind i am just telling , dont presume that i have lust for money)

You think perks are limited to CSS? Think again. I don't know if you understand the meaning of the term "perks". If you do, then you should realize that the perks the private sector has to offer exceed the Public sector in every possible way except for the "power" factor. However, I would rather have a nice house, a nice car and be able to send my kids to university than to have power that does not guarantee food on my table.

[QUOTE=CaptainPakistan;499566]Who are you kidding with here? In Pakistan its the other way around, cars and moeny is in Government Jobs, private sector sucks the life out of you. That is why everyone wants to be a CSS officer even though the average salary won't ever exceed 60,000 throughout their career. Just check out these forums, 90% of the threads are people asking about 'power' and 'perks'. No one gives a rats shit about this country.[/QUOTE]

Please explain what perks you are talking about (apart from the power factor). Also elaborate on the "cars and money in the Government jobs". I don't know which country you are talking about. But there is far more money and far more cars in the private sector in Pakistan. No one can deny it.
Having said that I should mention that I am in no way discouraging people to enter the Civil Service. In fact I myself encourage people to enter the system so that they can try and change our country. However, I am trying to remove the delusion that entering the civil service can give better monetary perks than the private sector.

[QUOTE=talalz3;500642]You think perks are limited to CSS? Think again. I don't know if you understand the meaning of the term "perks". If you do, then you should realize that the perks the private sector has to offer exceed the Public sector in every possible way except for the "power" factor. However, I would rather have a nice house, a nice car and be able to send my kids to university than to have power that does not guarantee food on my table.



Please explain what perks you are talking about (apart from the power factor). Also elaborate on the "cars and money in the Government jobs". I don't know which country you are talking about. But there is far more money and far more cars in the private sector in Pakistan. No one can deny it.
Having said that I should mention that I am in no way discouraging people to enter the Civil Service. In fact I myself encourage people to enter the system so that they can try and change our country. However, I am trying to remove the delusion that entering the civil service can give better monetary perks than the private sector.[/QUOTE]

i can explain captain pakistan's point but it requires alot of time , at every stage the CSS OFFICER (PSP and DMG) is better than an engineer or an MBA etc.
1.Compare ASP with a fresh engineer.
2.SP and SSP with a 5-12 years experienced engineer.
3.DIG with a 17 year experienced engineer.
and last but most impressive.

Compare the perks of an engineer with an experience of 20-25 years with IG PUNJAB , DG FIA , both PSP officers.u are asking aboutr cars??/ just go and see when an IG moves, approx 30 vehicles are with him:laughing........what with an engineer???:sick

[QUOTE=tahir asiif;500926]i can explain captain pakistan's point but it requires alot of time , at every stage the CSS OFFICER (PSP and DMG) is better than an engineer or an MBA etc.
1.Compare ASP with a fresh engineer.
2.SP and SSP with a 5-12 years experienced engineer.
3.DIG with a 17 year experienced engineer.
and last but most impressive.

Compare the perks of an engineer with an experience of 20-25 years with IG PUNJAB , DG FIA , both PSP officers.u are asking aboutr cars??/ just go and see when an IG moves, approx 30 vehicles are with him:laughing........what with an engineer???:sick[/QUOTE]

I completely agree and endorse Tahir Asif's point of view.

[QUOTE=tahir asiif;500926]i can explain captain pakistan's point but it requires alot of time , at every stage the CSS OFFICER (PSP and DMG) is better than an engineer or an MBA etc.
1.Compare ASP with a fresh engineer.
2.SP and SSP with a 5-12 years experienced engineer.
3.DIG with a 17 year experienced engineer.
and last but most impressive.

Compare the perks of an engineer with an experience of 20-25 years with IG PUNJAB , DG FIA , both PSP officers.u are asking aboutr cars??/ just go and see when an IG moves, approx 30 vehicles are with him:laughing........what with an engineer???:sick[/QUOTE]
Woh 30 vehicles us k apne nahi hote. Compare the vehicle he gets for personal use with the vehicle an executive gets. You will see the real picture. And keep in mind that to become an IG one has to suck up to a politician. However, in the corporate sector one can gain promotions on merit. (This also holds true to an extent for the civil service).
Don't compare the IG with an engineer with 25-30 years. Compare him to the chief executive of a major corporation. You will realize that his monthly salary alone can buy the 30 cars an IG never owns.
Now what other perks you want to compare? In this day and age, money buys everything. In fact many bureaucrats have been bought by wealthy people to grant them numerous favours. The power or prestige factor is to an extent still there but is nowhere near what our ancestors enjoyed before devolution.

You say that "at every stage a CSS officer is better placed than an engineer, MBA etc.". I highly doubt this. Believe me, many people in my family are buraucrats. At one stage they are Commissioners and CCPOs, while at one stage they are transferred to a remote station where they do not have any power or influence. Not even the vehicles you crave. I am not making this up. I am just stating what I have personally seen. While bureaucrats retire, most people forget who they were or what they had. The "30 vehicles" you speak of go away. The accomodation (if he even had any) is taken away. All he has to live on is a meagre pension in which he faces difficulty to make ends meet.