SSP verses CAPTAIN in Army
 

dear members, do share your experience about the powers of SSP and CAPTAIN, and compare the perks & previliges given to these both OFFICERS and does CAPTAIN dominates the SSP?:glare:

Captain has no match with ssp, u can compare colnel with ssp, i m of the view that ssp is more influential than a colnel of army even this is my view n others may disagree,

[QUOTE=Shaikhu;698746]dear members, do share your experience about the powers of SSP and CAPTAIN, and compare the perks & previliges given to these both OFFICERS and does CAPTAIN dominates the SSP?:glare:[/QUOTE]
no one can dominate SSP in today's world

Absolutely CSS is peerless,and there is no comparison between captain and SSP.You can compare SSP with colonel.

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Today my brother went to his friend who is captien Dr in navy forces. He was living in a 2 bed flat it was luxurious and well furnished.My brother told me about his luxurious living. Obliviously there was a tight security. I was thinking whether a AC or SSP enjoys more privileges or a captien does?

haha ,, in pakistan is no one power ful . only money is the power ful .ask from yourself ? why you are in need of power because you are fearful and can not face realities , bit a say harsh realities of life . if ssp is power ful and capitan is powerful , why they are fearful to defeat the taliban . my sincere advice is leave the very topic . it is reality , every body has some price in pakistan . if you are affluent and gave them . they wil salute you . otherwise , they will not . so , mature and leave this matter of power . if you are too much eager to know about the reality , just go to your cpo office and near army garrission . definitely , you will shock to see the brittle ness of every institution .

Well the last post stands not only against logic but the common perception as well. Had money been so powerful, MPAs, MNAs and ministers would not have struggled to get their sons allocated in PSP, PAS. Money might give you feeling of power but its not power at all. All the business men and money wielding people struggle hard to keep terms with DPO,DCO.
There isn't any comparison between captain and SSP. Because captains in army struggle hard and appear in bulk before FPSC to get allocated in PSP and that too at the rank of ASP.
You should compare SSP with Brigadier at least and in my view SSP/DPO has much more influence, protocol, facilities and social recognition.

CSP's are more influent and active than Army officers . They have more powers and authority and particularly public dealing and promotion setup . Every year there are around 600 candidate go in PMA but most of them (90%) are retire in 18 grade (Major) but every CSP goes at least at 20 grade .

everyone join PSP for respect, social recognition, power,serving country and unfortunately some for easy money as well.
Now on these basis we can compare both . an ASP has more social recognition and respect as compared to captain , The thing is that ASP deals with general public because ASP awam k kam aa skta hai, while Captain has only to do with army. The only reason people might respect Captain is because armed forces are considered to be prestigious .But that respect is only limited to the respect of army. while even if someone hates Police , he or she will still respect PSP officer because of obvious reasons .
again same is the case with power, ASP,SP etc have more powers . Powers of captain is limited to army personnel while that of PSP officer is spread in the whole city .
As with salary, I think there isn't much difference .
As with perks etc, as far as I know house an ASP or SP gets is much better than captain in most of the times, Captain doesn't have official vehicle and higher rank army officers might that but that is strictly for official use only while PSP has awesome vehicle .
I am not sure about security of Captain but PSP can get as much or as less guards as he wants. It depend on his nature.
As with serving country, I honestly believe PSP can serve much better . I have great respect for army and I agree that they are the defenders but think individually , captain can be replaced , and initial and replaced captain both would perform same duties . But an honest and dedicated PSP is bit Rare and can't be replaced easily.
Plus Police can easily earn black money while in army it is not possible until higher ranks,
and lastly one can only be promoted upto Major in army and promotion above it is dependent upon personal aptitude and service record but mostly PSP reach DIG at least .

P.S: these points are based on my personal research and opinion etc, I have no army,police background. One may disagree

AOA

There is no need to compare officers of Police and Army. They have different nature of jobs.

Further a Captain in Army is a BPS-17 officer, while an SSP is a BPS-19 officer, there is a stark difference of hierarchy/strature.

Regards

[QUOTE=Waseem Riaz Khan;721875]Well the last post stands not only against logic but the common perception as well. Had money been so powerful, MPAs, MNAs and ministers would not have struggled to get their sons allocated in PSP, PAS. Money might give you feeling of power but its not power at all. All the business men and money wielding people struggle hard to keep terms with DPO,DCO.
There isn't any comparison between captain and SSP. Because captains in army struggle hard and appear in bulk before FPSC to get allocated in PSP and that too at the rank of ASP.
You should compare SSP with Brigadier at least and in my view SSP/DPO has much more influence, protocol, facilities and social recognition.[/QUOTE]

over eulogizing of psp service. if its so you cant find people leaving civil service and police service in particular and opt for business and other professions. civil servants and their kids always suffer through the complex of money. they always want to rub their shoulders with industrialists and businessmen. i do admit politicians and businessmen want to develop their relations with them but for what? just to use them like tissue paper and when they are not at seat( having inferior posting) throw them away dont even bother to pick their calls. transfer posting issues, they have to lick the shoes of political boses to get good posting. i have never seen any industrialist's son or daughter opting for civil service. there is not any thing more powerful than money.

No comparison
 

I would agree that SSP is way more powerful particularly as DPO. Captain has his share of uniform but facilities and powers are simply not comparable. You can compare DPO with Brigadier at least in terms of facilities. It also depends upon the posting. Sometimes a captain can be very effective and influential and sometimes a DPO can be sidelined or powerless. But generally, DPO and Civil Service is the bulwark of facilities and perks. It also varies with province. In Punjab situation is tilted in favour of Civil service but in rest of the provinces especially balochistan and kp, military has strong ingress and captain is quite an influential person.

SSP has far more facilities and power than a Brigadier. People just overdo in case of army.

in actual place ssp have power to do but hamry yahn to police mna r mpa ky agy bakri bni hoti h r sirf pesy ly ky side line lag jati h ,dpo r ssp kio kam ni krty .pakistan ky log achy han jo ssp r dpo sb ko kuch ni kehty warna ye ksi kam ky ni han kio case theq tra solve ni krty bs protocol .................:bow:bow

[QUOTE=muhammad imtiaz ahmad;967448]in actual place ssp have power to do but hamry yahn to police mna r mpa ky agy bakri bni hoti h r sirf pesy ly ky side line lag jati h ,dpo r ssp kio kam ni krty .pakistan ky log achy han jo ssp r dpo sb ko kuch ni kehty warna ye ksi kam ky ni han kio case theq tra solve ni krty bs protocol .................:bow:bow[/QUOTE]

Bhaijan agr bakri nahi bano gy tou transfer hojayga udhar jahan koi jana nahi chahta

[QUOTE=Waseem Riaz Khan;721875]Well the last post stands not only against logic but the common perception as well. Had money been so powerful, MPAs, MNAs and ministers would not have struggled to get their sons allocated in PSP, PAS. Money might give you feeling of power but its not power at all. All the business men and money wielding people struggle hard to keep terms with DPO,DCO.
There isn't any comparison between captain and SSP. Because captains in army struggle hard and appear in bulk before FPSC to get allocated in PSP and that too at the rank of ASP.
You should compare SSP with Brigadier at least and in my view SSP/DPO has much more influence, protocol, facilities and social recognition.[/QUOTE]
O BHAI ...............SHO is powerful post than a Lt Col ..Captain is nothing Major is mature rank