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The Nearer the Church the Farther From God (Expansion 2012)

Hundreds years of worship are useless without true love. Those who live days and nights in churches, and world dwells in their hearts; God is very far away from them. The only bond which makes bondage between God and Man of God is love. Worship goes futile without love. Those who live in churches, temples and mosques, and love for God is not in their hearts, God is farther from them.

When there was no time, cause, season, theory and reason, there was an existence of love. This entire cosmos is created for love. God is lover, and He loves the lovers not worshipers. The Satan is known as the greatest worshiper of God but God is farther from him. On account of Satan is worshiper not lover. Moulana Jalal Din Rumi says, “Without love, all worship is a burden.” Indeed, those who live in the place of worship, they are not the pious, unless they are lovers of God.


This is not just for Christians but for all. The Nearer the Temple The Farther From Buddha or the Nearer the Mosque The Farther From Allah. The prophet Mohammad PBUH says, “"Worship your Lord as if you see him during worship, and if you cannot do that, then worship as if He sees you " In both conditions, the world doesn't come in one's mind. If one cannot take one condition, then, it is like The Nearer the Church the Farther From God.


All the mystics, Sufi and pious people of the world have given value to love. They believe if God is not present in one's heart, and he prays days and nights; he is an infidel. As Maruf Kerkhi PBUH says, “If you pray and World comes in your mind, then, you prostrate to world.”
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The Nearer the Church the Farther From God (Expansion 2012)

Hundreds years of worship are useless without true love. Those who live days and nights in churches, and world dwells in their hearts; God is very far away from them. The only bond which makes bondage between God and Man of God is love. Worship goes futile without love. Those who live in churches, temples and mosques, and love for God is not in their hearts, God is farther from them.

When there was no time, cause, season, theory and reason, there was an existence of love. This entire cosmos is created for love. God is lover, and He loves the lovers not worshipers. The Satan is known as the greatest worshiper of God but God is farther from him. On account of Satan is worshiper not lover. Moulana Jalal Din Rumi says, “Without love, all worship is a burden.” Indeed, those who live in the place of worship, they are not the pious, unless they are lovers of God.


This is not just for Christians but for all. The Nearer the Temple The Farther From Buddha or the Nearer the Mosque The Farther From Allah. The prophet Mohammad PBUH says, “"Worship your Lord as if you see him during worship, and if you cannot do that, then worship as if He sees you " In both conditions, the world doesn't come in one's mind. If one cannot take one condition, then, it is like The Nearer the Church the Farther From God.


All the mystics, Sufi and pious people of the world have given value to love. They believe if God is not present in one's heart, and he prays days and nights; he is an infidel. As Maruf Kerkhi PBUH says, “If you pray and World comes in your mind, then, you prostrate to world.”
One thing i observe here was the total words in your expansion here are approximately 800+ below 1000.i guess!!
While the maximum limitation in expansion i think is 250-300 words,moreover if it was quality material than we can add more 50 words.rest of members i think can demonstrate well about your's expansion.
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Adopt a little expository style too.perhaps u could relate to religious fanatics/clerks harming the humans and correlate with God aftrr first paragraph.u repeated almost one point.
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One thing i observe here was the total words in your expansion here are approximately 800+ below 1000.i guess!!
While the maximum limitation in expansion i think is 250-300 words,moreover if it was quality material than we can add more 50 words.rest of members i think can demonstrate well about your's expansion.
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Adopt a little expository style too.perhaps u could relate to religious fanatics/clerks harming the humans and correlate with God aftrr first paragraph.u repeated almost one point.
Sis, Please, elaborate it more.

I tried to give religious fanatics but avoided. I wanted to prove my statement _an idea. There were chances of derailing, so i tried to maintain the flow of words.

You can explain better to me and do give the marks too.. I await.

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I am unable to fine the link between two parts of the topic sentence "the nearer the church" and "the farther from God". How being near to the Church keeps one away from God, this was to be justified which is missing at all.
will you please justify this?it would be knowledge gaining for me also!!
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1. you admired love of orthodoxy. Good. but you'd to elaborate that those visibly found in worship places, engaged in religious practices and scriptures feel secure, some how sense of arrogance developes in them and stop fearing God in true sense.

2. Its not church where God is found. "Quote verses from 'Voice of God', a poem"
a person climbed the tomb to find God and heard a voice asking him to go down as God is among the people.

criticise the Aloofness and asceticism of orthodox clergy.

3.
Give a broad meaning to church. say, church is not merely a worship place. Our world and universe as whole is like a church. It abounds in the symbols, testifying the existence of God. Unity of life and diversity of forms, from virus to large nabulae every thing signifies the devine existence but science which studies them is atheist itself.

4.
God is aim of human's life. world is a source to that aim. Man arrived on earth, forgot aim and got lost in wordly disallusions.
This principle applies to daily life too.
warrior's aim was to keep an eye on enemy but booty allured them and they forgot their aim In battle of Uhad.
A student finds a bag of weath on his way to school. He immediately returns home halfway. both parents and student forget about his education and attendance at school. similarly deviants of reputaion and lust in world destracts man from the path of what he came her for.

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I am unable to fine the link between two parts of the topic sentence "the nearer the church" and "the farther from God". How being near to the Church keeps one away from God, this was to be justified which is missing at all.
will you please justify this?it would be knowledge gaining for me also!!
regards.

Dear what i understood from the sentence is narrow interpretation of God's message by theologians and different rituals practiced differently in society (their fanatic and conservatice attitudes opposing change)are taking human away from the true teachings of religion.

Religion is a binding force rather than deviding. its about universal peace, brotherhood mutual coexistence. Service to mankind in general and unified course of actions toward inovation ,progress and excellence as per the changing times.

we see the classification of humanity on religious grounds. In one country,one society people are torned by cetain categorizations, religious is one of them.

Here we have to justify that God can be truly approached not by the words of theologians(sitting and listening to them at church). This end can rather be met by conducting an independent and intellectual inquiry of the God's message.

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I am unable to fine the link between two parts of the topic sentence "the nearer the church" and "the farther from God". How being near to the Church keeps one away from God, this was to be justified which is missing at all.
will you please justify this?it would be knowledge gaining for me also!!
regards.
It was justified. I think. My first lines speak about it.

Hundreds years of worship are useless without true love. Those who live days and nights in churches, and world dwells in their hearts; God is very far away from them.


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@ zuhaib
1. you admired love of orthodoxy. Good. but you'd to elaborate that those visibly found in worship places, engaged in religious practices and scriptures feel secure, some how sense of arrogance developes in them and stop fearing God in true sense.

2. Its not church where God is found. "Quote verses from 'Voice of God', a poem"
a person climbed the tomb to find God and heard a voice asking him to go down as God is among the people.

criticise the Aloofness and asceticism of orthodox clergy.

3.
Give a broad meaning to church. say, church is not merely a worship place. Our world and universe as whole is like a church. It abounds in the symbols, testifying the existence of God. Unity of life and diversity of forms, from virus to large nabulae every thing signifies the devine existence but science which studies them is atheist itself.

4.
God is aim of human's life. world is a source to that aim. Man arrived on earth, forgot aim and got lost in wordly disallusions.
This principle applies to daily life too.
warrior's aim was to keep an eye on enemy but booty allured them and they forgot their aim In battle of Uhad.
A student finds a bag of weath on his way to school. He immediately returns home halfway. both parents and student forget about his education and attendance at school. similarly deviants of reputaion and lust in world destracts man from the path of what he came her for.




Dear what i understood from the sentence is narrow interpretation of God's message by theologians and different rituals practiced differently in society (their fanatic and conservatice attitudes opposing change)are taking human away from the true teachings of religion.

Religion is a binding force rather than deviding. its about universal peace, brotherhood mutual coexistence. Service to mankind in general and unified course of actions toward inovation ,progress and excellence as per the changing times.

we see the classification of humanity on religious grounds. In one country,one society people are torned by cetain categorizations, religious is one of them.

Here we have to justify that God can be truly approached not by the words of theologians(sitting and listening to them at church). This end can rather be met by conducting an independent and intellectual inquiry of the God's message.

You are right, Dear. I could give many things. But, I wanted to prove LOVE is only thing which decreases distance between God and Human.
The Nearer the church the farther from God.

I focused on MAN, WORSHIP, GOD and LOVE.

Yes, it is, one should not forget fundamental aim of soul and it can only happen if person loves the God. hmmm

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Sis, Please, elaborate it more.

I tried to give religious fanatics but avoided. I wanted to prove my statement _an idea. There were chances of derailing, so i tried to maintain the flow of words.

You can explain better to me and do give the marks too.. I await.
I did attempt this topic as it interested me more. and I am pretty happy with my way of writing on it I hope I am not sounding narcissist right now

Well, what you have avoided is exactly what I did. I think it is important to give current view or scenario of a topic if is relevant. So, religious fanaticism should be talked about in this topic. It really fascinates me to use that super Flory vocabulary in expansion (which I am not good at ) but talk about some real-life relevant instances too. But you got expression. Mix it up with real-life, and you will rock. I hope I am clear, as continuous exams day k my mind isn't responding well :@

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@ zuhaib
1. you admired love of orthodoxy. Good. but you'd to elaborate that those visibly found in worship places, engaged in religious practices and scriptures feel secure, some how sense of arrogance developes in them and stop fearing God in true sense.

2. Its not church where God is found. "Quote verses from 'Voice of God', a poem"
a person climbed the tomb to find God and heard a voice asking him to go down as God is among the people.

criticise the Aloofness and asceticism of orthodox clergy.

3.
Give a broad meaning to church. say, church is not merely a worship place. Our world and universe as whole is like a church. It abounds in the symbols, testifying the existence of God. Unity of life and diversity of forms, from virus to large nabulae every thing signifies the devine existence but science which studies them is atheist itself.

4.
God is aim of human's life. world is a source to that aim. Man arrived on earth, forgot aim and got lost in wordly disallusions.
This principle applies to daily life too.
warrior's aim was to keep an eye on enemy but booty allured them and they forgot their aim In battle of Uhad.
A student finds a bag of weath on his way to school. He immediately returns home halfway. both parents and student forget about his education and attendance at school. similarly deviants of reputaion and lust in world destracts man from the path of what he came her for.




Dear what i understood from the sentence is narrow interpretation of God's message by theologians and different rituals practiced differently in society (their fanatic and conservatice attitudes opposing change)are taking human away from the true teachings of religion.

Religion is a binding force rather than deviding. its about universal peace, brotherhood mutual coexistence. Service to mankind in general and unified course of actions toward inovation ,progress and excellence as per the changing times.

we see the classification of humanity on religious grounds. In one country,one society people are torned by cetain categorizations, religious is one of them.

Here we have to justify that God can be truly approached not by the words of theologians(sitting and listening to them at church). This end can rather be met by conducting an independent and intellectual inquiry of the God's message.

@ your point 3; This is what we call off-the-track while writing expansion.

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I did attempt this topic as it interested me more. and I am pretty happy with my way of writing on it I hope I am not sounding narcissist right now

Well, what you have avoided is exactly what I did. I think it is important to give current view or scenario of a topic if is relevant. So, religious fanaticism should be talked about in this topic. It really fascinates me to use that super Flory vocabulary in expansion (which I am not good at ) but talk about some real-life relevant instances too. But you got expression. Mix it up with real-life, and you will rock. I hope I am clear, as continuous exams day k my mind isn't responding well :@
Thanks A lot, Sis G! My prayers are with you. May Allah give you success. Thanks a lot for guiding me being in hectic circumstances.

Do share your expansion having given the papers. Thanks.
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I also attempted this but in different way I argued that the human race has not even spared religion from exploitation. they used the platform of church, mosque to stifle the rights of others whom they declare to be irreligious. they themselves pretend to be very God fearing and always offer prayers but their actual practices are diametrically opposed to the Divine message. And that everything is done provoking the name of God I offered the example of the Christian priests during the Roman and Middle age period and the The Mullah of Islam as well as the Jew Rabbis.
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