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usman khalid · #41 Thursday, July 12, 2012

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zuhaib ahmed

Where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise.

The world is deep and dark ditch of ignorance. Where ignorance is known as a blessing, it is better to be silent there. On account of closed mouth catches no fly. (Sentence structure needs revision) One must be silent in the party of illiterates. He must not show his wisdom where it is not appreciable otherwise it will be known as ignorance. (sin seems a bit harsh word )
Ibne Rushd, a great scholar, philosopher and astronomer was killed by the people of that time. He was naked and tied outside of the mosque. They stoned and spitted over him in a cold and shivering night. His only sin was; He spoke about stars, philosophy and metaphysics in the town of uneducated people where ignorance was blessing.

Galileo, the great Scientist was house-arrested because he said that Sun does not move around the earth and other planets but Earth moves around the sun. This was not tolerable by people of that time. Sun moves around the earth was in their believes. He was threatened to take back his words or he would be killed. Consequently, he took back his words. He had talked wisely among the narrow-minded people.

if one speaks above than the level of one's mind, one will be known as mad (I think its better to put 'as' here, what do you think?) and if one speaks lesser than the level of mind, one will be known as fool. It is better to speak according to the level of one's mind. And, being wise in fool's paradise is like to hammer one's own leg.

By: Xuhaib Ahmed 11-july-2012

Well done!

usman khalid · #42 Thursday, July 12, 2012

If one knows the name of the person who made a particular statement / poetic line, one should also mention his/her name. One may write for the above mentioned line 'Where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise.' in the following manner:

This phrase has been said by an english poet, Thomas Gray in his poem,"Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College."

agnes · #43 Thursday, July 12, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by usman khalid

If one knows the name of the person who made a particular statement / poetic line, one should also mention his/her name. One may write for the above mentioned line 'Where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise.' in the following manner:

This phrase has been said by an english poet, Thomas Gray in his poem,"Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College."

but someone said me that in expansion we are not allowed to provide reference but to explain what we concieve from the topic. What do you say?

zuhaib ahmed · #44 Thursday, July 12, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by usman khalid

Well done!

Yes, AS is better.

On account of closed mouth catches no fly.

Because, Closed mouth catches no fly.

Done?

zuhaib ahmed · #45 Thursday, July 12, 2012

The violence of war can be diluted with love (Expansion of 2011)

When there was no time, cause, season, theory and reason, there was existence of love which is the most powerful and beyond everything. Human is pack of feelings; hatred begets war and war is consumed by love. Love is the most insurmountable emotion which has done miracles since time _it has brought wars into peace and hatred into affection. Indeed, violence of war can be diluted with love.

When Arab tribes were spreading violence of wars _hatred and aggregation were giving outlets to war’s fire. There, Prophet Mohammad PBUH with whiff of love extinguished war’s fire. He brought flow of love and brother-hood in every heart of Arabians which wiped all hatred and brought sympathy. War was weakened by eternal force of love and war was blown away; like a rotten leaf is flown away by tempest.

As a diamond is needed to cut mirror same love is needed to parish war. When war stands with war, then, violence reaches at its peaks. Two same sides of magnet ever repel each other and make distance. So, a war is not solution for war. One has to change one’s side to attract each other and that side is of love _only can be done by love. As universal saying is, “Love begets love.”

Love and humanity is essence of all religions of world. Religion is solution for entire human-kind and soul of religion is love. Love which breaks walls of hatred and brings ever flowing peace _It eradicates all differences. Violence of war was ever conquered by love; it is being conquered and will be conquered. As Virgil said, "Love conquers all."

By: Xuhaib Ahmed Pirzada The traveler 12-Feb-2012

zuhaib ahmed · #46 Thursday, July 12, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by usman khalid

If one knows the name of the person who made a particular statement / poetic line, one should also mention his/her name. One may write for the above mentioned line 'Where ignorance is bliss, it is folly to be wise.' in the following manner:

This phrase has been said by an english poet, Thomas Gray in his poem,"Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College."

Sir G! Is it not better we start directly with meaning without reference?

usman khalid · #47 Thursday, July 12, 2012

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Originally Posted by fouzia23

but someone said me that in expansion we are not allowed to provide reference but to explain what we concieve from the topic. What do you say?

I don't think this is the case. I have read some good books on expansion where reference is given. However, you may confirm it from some english teacher.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuhaib ahmed

Yes, AS is better.

On account of closed mouth catches no fly.

Because, Closed mouth catches no fly.

Done?

This sentence comprises of two clauses:

1-On account of closed mouth,
2-.... catches no fly.

Or

3-On account of .... ,
4-Closed mouth catches no fly.

Firstly, due to absence of punctuation mark, sentece is confusing. Either a subject is missing (2), or noun is missing (3).

The sentence may better be structured as a simple sentence;

Closed mouth catches no fly.

Although above sentece is gramatically ok, but I personally feel it doesn't make much sense. Why would a closed mouth try to catch a fly?

or what do you actually mean when you say so?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuhaib ahmed

Sir G! Is it not better we start directly with meaning without reference?

It is your own choice. However, I would love to start with the reference

zuhaib ahmed · #48 Thursday, July 12, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by usman khalid

This sentence comprises of two clauses:

1-On account of closed mouth,
2-.... catches no fly.

Or

3-On account of .... ,
4-Closed mouth catches no fly.

Firstly, due to absence of punctuation mark, sentece is confusing. Either a subject is missing (2), or noun is missing (3).

The sentence may better be structured as a simple sentence;

Closed mouth catches no fly.

Although above sentece is gramatically ok, but I personally feel it doesn't make much sense. Why would a closed mouth try to catch a fly?

or what do you actually mean when you say so?

Closed mouth catches no fly. Sir it is a proverb which means; It is better to be silent at some places and When one speaks it can be harmful for one's self .

usman khalid · #49 Thursday, July 12, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuhaib ahmed

Closed mouth catches no fly. Sir it is a proverb which means; It is better to be silent at some places and When one speaks it can be harmful for one's self .

Hmmm... addition to my knowledge.

Correct proverb is: 'A closed mouth catches no flies.'

However, 'on account of' is not required here. Because:

on account of (proverb), (what??) The what portion is missing here. Therefore, only the proverb will suffice to reflect the intended meaning.

ap kehna chah rhay ho k 'is proverb ki wja se ya is ki buniad pr,__________.'

laikin baat adhori chor di or blank fill nhi ki.

usman khalid · #50 Friday, July 13, 2012

Suggested corrections have been coloured.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuhaib ahmed

The violence of war can be diluted with love (Expansion of 2011)

When there was no time, cause, season, theory and reason, there was existence of love which is the most powerful and beyond everything. Human is pack of feelings; hatred begets war and war is consumed by love. Love is the most insurmountable emotion which has done miracles since time. It has brought wars into peace and hatred into affection. Indeed, violence of war can be diluted with love.

When Arab tribes were spreading violence of wars, hatred and aggregation were giving outlets to the fire of war. There, Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) with whiff of love extinguished war’s fire. He brought flow of love and brotherhood in the heart of every Arabain which wiped all hatred and brought sympathy. War was weakened by eternal force of love and war was blown away; like a rotten leaf is flown away by tempest.

As a diamond is needed to cut mirror same love is needed to parish war. (As water extinguishes fire, similarly love parishes war. (Analogy is between two opposite things so 'diamond cuts mirror' doesn't suit the situation properly)) When war stands with war, then violence reaches (No proposition after 'reach' here) its peaks. Two same sides of magnet always repel each other and make distance. So, a war is not solution for war rather a problem in itself. One has to change one’s side to attract each other and that side is of love. As universal saying is, “Love begets love.”

Love and humanity is essence of all religions of the world. Religion is solution for entire human-kind and soul of religion is love. Love breaks walls of hatred and brings ever flowing peace. It eradicates all differences. Violence of war was ever (try to use 'always' in simple affirmative sentences) conquered by love; it is being conquered and will be conquered. As Virgil said, "Love conquers all."

By: Xuhaib Ahmed Pirzada The traveler 12-Feb-2012

Good Work Dear

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