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free thinker Friday, April 07, 2006 08:00 AM

So That /and So
 
[B]He realized that the world could run out of key resources, ------------ he was a harsh critic of the wastefulness of modern industrial society.[/B]

A) so that
B) whether
C) so long as
D) and so
E) but

I have no objection to "D" but "A" could also be a logical answer . May I take your comments on the question please? And a last word, is double coordinative conjunction possible as in "and so"?

[B]Thank you friends![/B]

Abdullah Friday, April 07, 2006 08:24 AM

dear free-thinker my thinking is not all that free to choose two options as an answer from the abovementioned sentence. i think "D" is the most logical answer, and [B]"and so"[/B] is not a [I]double coordonate conjunction [/I]; rather a combination of [I]coordinate conjunction:[/I] [B]"and"[/B]......and [I]subordinate conjunction:[/I][B]"so"[/B] .....and these two operators could well be used together and your argument that option "A" is also a logical answer is beyond my comprehension please explain away that if i'm wrong....
with regards naveed

Godoo Friday, April 07, 2006 08:26 AM

AoA

I also understand A & D could be the proper fillings.


regards

Godoo

Adil Memon Friday, April 07, 2006 09:13 AM

I will support naveed's stance. 'A' does not seem applicable to me. 'D' is the most suitable one.

Regards,

free thinker Friday, April 07, 2006 09:22 AM

thanks to all of u....
 
brother..Adil ..would u plz explain ..why 'A' is not applicable here?

Qurratulain Friday, April 07, 2006 08:00 PM

[SIZE=2]Free Thinker,

"so that" falls in the category of Conjunction of Purpose and Conjunction of Consequence, while "and so" is Conjunction of Manner or Degree
the statement "[/SIZE][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]He realized that the world could run out of key resources, ------------ he was a harsh critic of the wastefulness of modern industrial society.[/SIZE]
[/B][/FONT][SIZE=2]" represents manner, so option D is the appropriate answer.

Regards
Qurat
[/SIZE]

free thinker Saturday, April 08, 2006 08:10 AM

Do u agree wid me..
 
[B][U]1. "so that" for the purpose clauses; "so that" is also used, especially with a comma, to inform a result.

2. "So that" can denote a result or logical consequence; so it would seem to be ok here.[/U][/B]

[I]And some extra sentences supporting "[B]SO THAT" [/B]expressing result or consequences:[/I]

The doctor explained the nature of my illness in medical terms, so that I didn’t understand fully. [B][result][/B]

The doctor explained the nature of my illness in medical terms so that I wouldn’t understand fully. [B][purpose][/B]

She studied very little ,so that she got a rather low grade. [B][result][/B]They bought a large house, so that the children had their own rooms [B][result][/B]

Many contestants later failed drug tests, so that the race had to be rerun. [B][result][/B]

Abdullah Saturday, April 08, 2006 08:37 AM

dear free thinker...u may be right, but can you plz mention the original source on the basis of which you can justify your assertions? i think without mentioning your source your affirmations will be all but blurred distractions for all of us....and 1 more thing :don't mention internet sources especially based on American lexicons and etymologies, for they have got a bit of shift from the course of action which we are supposed to undertake while learning english,,,,so plz come up with the original sources ...and i hope you will entertain this exhortion from my side...i'm still an immature learner, so if you enlighten me with some new facts which i have been ignorant of so far, then it will really be great of you
with all the regards and prayers ,,,your brother naveed

Qurratulain Sunday, April 09, 2006 07:11 PM

free thinker,
your reply just illustrated 'so that' situation, you didn't give any sound illustration of 'and so'

[quote=free thinker] [B][U]1. "so that" for the purpose clauses; "so that" is also used, especially with a comma, to inform a result.[/U][/B]

[U][B]2. "So that" can denote a result or logical consequence; so it would seem to be ok here.[/B][/U]

[I]And some extra sentences supporting "[B]SO THAT" [/B]expressing result or consequences:[/I]

The doctor explained the nature of my illness in medical terms, so that I didn’t understand fully. [B][result][/B]

The doctor explained the nature of my illness in medical terms so that I wouldn’t understand fully. [B][purpose][/B]

She studied very little ,so that she got a rather low grade. [B][result][/B]They bought a large house, so that the children had their own rooms [B][result][/B]

Many contestants later failed drug tests, so that the race had to be rerun. [B][result] [/B]
[/quote]

secondly, i agree with naveed
[quote=Alamgirian]


dear free thinker...u may be right, but can you plz mention the original source on the basis of which you can justify your assertions? i think without mentioning your source your affirmations will be all but blurred distractions for all of us....and 1 more thing :don't mention internet sources especially based on American lexicons and etymologies, for they have got a bit of shift from the course of action which we are supposed to undertake while learning english,,,,so plz come up with the original sources ...and i hope you will entertain this exhortion from my side...i'm still an immature learner, so if you enlighten me with some new facts which i have been ignorant of so far, then it will really be great of you
with all the regards and prayers ,,,your brother naveed
[/quote]


Regards
Qurat

free thinker Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:34 AM

that = so that?
 
A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care [B]that[/B] the balances are correct.

that = so that?


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