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Farrukh Aziz · #21 Sunday, August 19, 2012

Thanks a lot Zuhaib Bhai . I will try to tell you the source regarding it soon Inshallah.Kindly take part in others given above Regards..

Ahmed Faisal · #22 Sunday, August 19, 2012

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Originally Posted by humma khan

police is a collective noun,. so how are could b used ??

if we consider police as a organization of number of people we must use "ARE"
as when we think of individual,s business we use
My business is good now a days.
but when we take it as collective, we use:
The Business of Textile are bad now a days.

shah · #23 Sunday, August 19, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed Faisal

if we consider police as a organization of number of people we must use "ARE"
as when we think of individual,s business we use
My business is good now a days.
but when we take it as collective, we use:
The Business of Textile are bad now a days.

As per functional english rules police is proper noun (name of organization) and sometimes as collective noun according to usage but in both cases use "is" with police .
for instance ; police is corrupt .
we don't write it as police are corrupt .
we use are with policemen not with police

bl chughtai · #24 Sunday, August 19, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farrukh Aziz

Correct All of the sentences given below:

1. Have you heard a story about a girl having no shade?
2. This was the first time I saw her in Lahore during a party arranged by our
company.
3. "No matter wherever the notorious dacoit goes, I will catch him." says,SSP
Sukkur, Pir Muhammad Shah.
4. Nowadays, the more students are coming from Sindh and from interior
Punjab to Lahore to join preparatory academies for CSS.
5. You know, I have been married to you for ten years but still I have not
understood what kind of person are you?
6. A great deal of time and money I will need in future to bring this project to
a close.
7. He cannot speak English fluently yet after all these years of study.
8. Both ASP and Assistant Commissioner of Thul were not present in the
reception given in honour of the newly elected MPA.

its a humble request to you to give only five sentences for correction as the people who are liked me whose grammer is not much batter can take part easily on daily bases.i hope you will understand.

Farrukh Aziz · #25 Sunday, August 19, 2012

Ok but this time do participate in these. And other members why are you so reluctant?

Ahmed Faisal · #26 Sunday, August 19, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by shah

As per functional english rules police is proper noun (name of organization) and sometimes as collective noun according to usage but in both cases use "is" with police .
for instance ; police is corrupt .
we don't write it as police are corrupt .
we use are with policemen not with police

Some nouns with a singular form, referring to groups of some kind, can be used with either a singular or plural form of the verb:
e.g. The Council has(or have) postponed a decision on the new road.

We use a singular verb if the focus is on the institution or organization as a whole unit, and a plural verb if the focus is on a collection of individuals. Often you can use either with very little difference in meaning, although in formal contexts (such as academic writing) it is more common to use a singular verb. Other words like this, sometimes called collective nouns, included army, association, audience, class , cub, college, committee, community, company, crew, crowd, department, electorate, enemy, family, , government, press, public, university , and the names of specific organization such a the bank, BBC etc...

In some contexts a plural form of the verb is needed. we would say:
The Committee usually raise their hands to vote 'Yes'. (not the committee usually raises its hands.)
as this is something that the individuals do, not the committee as a whole. in others, a singular form is preferred. We would say:
The School is to close next year (not the School are to close...
as we are talking about something which happens to the school as a building or institution, not to the individuals in the schools..
I hope you got it now

shah · #27 Monday, August 20, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed Faisal

Some nouns with a singular form, referring to groups of some kind, can be used with either a singular or plural form of the verb:
e.g. The Council has(or have) postponed a decision on the new road.

We use a singular verb if the focus is on the institution or organization as a whole unit, and a plural verb if the focus is on a collection of individuals. Often you can use either with very little difference in meaning, although in formal contexts (such as academic writing) it is more common to use a singular verb. Other words like this, sometimes called collective nouns, included army, association, audience, class , cub, college, committee, community, company, crew, crowd, department, electorate, enemy, family, , government, press, public, university , and the names of specific organization such a the bank, BBC etc...

In some contexts a plural form of the verb is needed. we would say:
The Committee usually raise their hands to vote 'Yes'. (not the committee usually raises its hands.)
as this is something that the individuals do, not the committee as a whole. in others, a singular form is preferred. We would say:
The School is to close next year (not the School are to close...
as we are talking about something which happens to the school as a building or institution, not to the individuals in the schools..
I hope you got it now

I got your point but brother common usage is somewhat different from functional rules

and dear just tell me what is collective noun ? should we use singular helping verb with collective nouns or plural ?
here is another view ; when use "are" with committee it's not as you earlier mentioned the committee usually raise their hands to vote , but dude but it is the committee usually raises its hands to vote . as we are talking about collectively about nouns

we use are when individuals of any collective noun are stressed like ; "the members of the committee usually raises their hands to vote .
brother i am just not firing bazookas in the air have a bit knowledge about the functions rules usages in detail . May be you are right i am wrong

Taimur Khan Wazir · #28 Monday, August 20, 2012

1. You speak English good.
2. I didn’t meet nobody.
3. Do you like a glass of wine?
4. The house isn’t enough big.
5.The police is coming.

I think it is like,
1. You speak good English.
2. I didn't meet anybody.
3. Would you like a glass of wine?
4. The police is approaching.

Ahmed Faisal · #29 Monday, August 20, 2012

[QUOTE=shah;468497]I got your point but brother common usage is somewhat different from functional rules

and dear just tell me what is collective noun ?
collective nouns, included army, association, audience, class , cub, college, committee, community, company, crew, crowd, department, electorate, enemy, family, , government, press, public, university , and the names of specific organization such a the bank, BBC etc...

should we use singular helping verb with collective nouns or plural ?

We use a singular verb if the focus is on the institution or organization as a whole unit, and a plural verb if the focus is on a collection of individuals. Often you can use either with very little difference in meaning

In some contexts a plural form of the verb is needed. we would say:
The Committee usually raise their hands to vote 'Yes'. (not the committee usually raises its hands.)
in others, a singular form is preferred. We would say:
The School is to close next year (not the School are to close...
as we are talking about something which happens to the school as a building or institution, not to the individuals in the schools..

we use are when individuals of any collective noun are stressed like ; the members of the committee usually raises their hands to vote .
your this sentence is categorically incorrect, as we say
they go to school ( not they goes to school).
Similar here,
The members of the Committee usually raise their hands to vote. For one thing, there are more than one individuals so we can not use raises but raise.[QUOTE]

shah · #30 Monday, August 20, 2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed Faisal

shah:I got your point but brother common usage is somewhat different from functional rules

and dear just tell me what is collective noun ?
ahmad:collective nouns, included army, association, audience, class , cub, college, committee, community, company, crew, crowd, department, electorate, enemy, family, , government, press, public, university , and the names of specific organization such a the bank, BBC etc...

shah:should we use singular helping verb with collective nouns or plural ?

ahamd:We use a singular verb if the focus is on the institution or organization as a whole unit, and a plural verb if the focus is on a collection of individuals. Often you can use either with very little difference in meaning

In some contexts a plural form of the verb is needed. we would say:
The Committee usually raise their hands to vote 'Yes'. (not the committee usually raises its hands.)
in others, a singular form is preferred. We would say:
The School is to close next year (not the School are to close...
as we are talking about something which happens to the school as a building or institution, not to the individuals in the schools..

we use are when individuals of any collective noun are stressed like ; the members of the committee usually raises their hands to vote .
your this sentence is categorically incorrect, as we say
they go to school ( not they goes to school).
Similar here,
The members of the Committee usually raise their hands to vote. For one thing, there are more than one individuals so we can not use raises but raise.

brother you answered my questions well individually but not in context :
let me make it easy for you; my stress was on individuals and organization so as yours but brother the sentence you mentioned the committee raises their hand to vote in this particular sentence it's all about committee not about members we use are when members of the committee are mentioned in the sentence "hope you got my point now"