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It seems tough, Try to boil it down;
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The young leading the young is like the blind leading the blind; they will both fall into the ditch. The only sure guide is he who has often gone the road which you want to go. Let me be that guide: Who has gone all roads, and who can consequently point out to the best. If you ask me why i went any of the bad roads myself; I will answer you truly; that it was for want of a good guide; ill example invited me one way, and a good guide was wanting to show me better. But if anybody, capable of advising me, had taken some pains with me which I have taken, and will continue to take, with you, I should have avoided many follies and inconveniences, which undirected youth ran me into.


Only an experienced man can become a good mentor. The author had to learn this fact the hard way since there was no such mentor who could have directed him to the right course in his youth. For this reason, now the author wants to be one such mentor. (47 words)


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It seems tough, Try to boil it down;
Hard nut to crack

Exercise # 03
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The young leading the young is like the blind leading the blind; they will both fall into the ditch. The only sure guide is he who has often gone the road which you want to go. Let me be that guide: Who has gone all roads, and who can consequently point out to the best. If you ask me why i went any of the bad roads myself; I will answer you truly; that it was for want of a good guide; ill example invited me one way, and a good guide was wanting to show me better. But if anybody, capable of advising me, had taken some pains with me which I have taken, and will continue to take, with you, I should have avoided many follies and inconveniences, which undirected youth ran me into.
A Good Guide

Guidance from the expert should be followed rather novice. To becoming a good guide one should appreciates the advises from his/her colleague; have enough knowledge of pros and cons; and prevents from inconvenience and enigmatic situations.



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Asalam-o-Alikum

Brother, According to my little knowledge, I think you lack many things in your precise.

1) The most important things is sincerity to your writer.
```There is not even Soul and Injurious words or any indication are given in precise.

2) I believe you should opt, Simple and easy language for precise.

3) It not make sense to me, if i refer it with original passage.

Nothing is personal; further, I request other member and Leopard to comment on your precise.

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The author had to learn this fact the hard way since there was no such mentor who could have directed him to the right course in his youth.
Perfectly done ! Thumbs up ! Thats what I lacked in my precise.
But brother, Don't you think you skipped Appreciation part and Knowledge of good and bad points, because writer emphasized on it.


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Perfectly done ! Thumbs up ! Thats what I lacked in my precise.
But brother, Don't you think you skipped Appreciation part and Knowledge of good and bad points, because writer emphasized on it.


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Brother while condensing a narration, avoid the details; the good and negative points are included in the phrase "Good Mentor" and "Experienced man" etc.

Thanks for appreciating my effort.

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Brother, thanks for your critical remarks. hope to digest your suggestions and try to improve.

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Brother, how do you evaluate my attempt? thanks.

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here i have tried to make precis its my first effort please check it either it is good or not... i just have tired
Title :Relation Between law and civilization (2) Law and the society.

Law provides us justice and Safety from wrongdoers of the soceity. It facilitates the eminent professionals of the society to carve out the civilization. Though it is not elementry part of civilization but it absorb in to such extent that along with civilzation even man cannot survive without it.(49)
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Brother, thanks for your critical remarks. hope to digest your suggestions and try to improve.

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Brother, how do you evaluate my attempt? thanks.

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Oh brother, Don't take it personal, If i not comment honestly how can we learn from our mistakes.

Please I also want you and other members to comment on my Precise also,

And I request others Members, to Comment the efforts of other member, Because it will help us to realize our mistakes and learn from it. Thanks


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here i have tried to make precis its my first effort please check it either it is good or not... i just have tired
Title :Relation Between law and civilization (2) Law and the society.

Law provides us justice and Safety from wrongdoers of the soceity. It facilitates the eminent professionals of the society to carve out the civilization. Though it is not elementry part of civilization but it absorb in to such extent that along with civilzation even man cannot survive without it.(49)
Dear Brother,

Asalam-o-Alikum.

According to my little knowledge, want to share few things.

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Law provides us justice and Safety from wrongdoers of the soceity
According to R.Dhillion, Precise should be free from any indication to any person, it should be for general purpose. In your precise, US is indicating group of people or any quantity. Which is not right according to R.Dhillion.


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Here Goes ! Socrates.
Try to Boil it Down.


The Figure of Socrates standing amidst the ruin of shattered institution and opinions, inwardly lamenting the ruin and yet setting a value on the spirit aright, makes a pathetic picture .It is impossible to grasp the true significance of the teaching of Socrates unless we perfectly understand how he characteristically mingled in himself two opposite currents of thought. His teachings were given to the world close on the heels of the sophistic doctrines. They share the free spirit of inquiry which formed the essential feature of Sophisticism, and yet the views embodied in them are in complete opposition to the agnosticism and skepticism of the Sophists.

There is only One way in which the perplexities occasioned by the argumentations of the Sophists could be encountered and rebutted. The one way was to adjure the very spirit of free inquiry which had pulled down everything objective , and to fall back in blind faith on authority. This was the course adopted by the conservative party represented by Aristophanes. They set their faces against the freedom of thought which the Sophists had inaugurated.
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Aslam o Aaikum,

Thank you brother Bunko for appreciating my efforts. Coming to your question that how to write a good precise, I would only say that first of all comprehend the theme of that passage and then simply re-write it in your own words; avoid using adjectives or extra words when you can do it without them; Use expressive verbs and write short but comprehensive sentences.... I don't know whether or not my advice will help you but I can only demonstrate my skill through practice like I 've done above....

Nice Effort from your side and other members.... Keep it up and keep practising.... More & more.....


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Brother You write well but there is much room for improvement as well.
Using High profile vocabulary is not at all an issue in precis, in fact the examiner appreciates easy-to-comprehend words provided if they completely express the gist of original paragraph.
Coming to your precis, I think I would be better if you write it in past tense.




first of all the words outlined in red colour do not serve the purpose in the above sentence. The word "So Called" was totally unnecessay and superfluous (avoid digression in precis); "Labor and time" can be written as "Cost effective" or "Economical"; the word "for" completely changes the meaning of this sentence - isn't it???

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In his opinion, machine is helping the wealthy class just in hoarding wealth; but depriving the poor.
I think you are confused in using punctuation marks; semi colon ( ; ) is normally not followed by connectors like 'But' or 'and" ....

Last but not the least, You have overemphasized on word "Machine". The passage is written about "mechanization" as a process and not merely on "Machinery" as a noun.

That was my point of view according to the limited knowledge that I 've....

Anyways, Keep working hard.... Practice is the key

Wish you all good luck....

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Thanks brother,

It is indeed immense pleasure to hear such comments from your side. Well, I will improve perpetually. As, it was my first to write precise.

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Brother, Thanks for giving me marks. Your comments/suggestions are really an asset for me. Keep sharing your knowledge.

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Here Goes ! Socrates.
Try to Boil it Down.


The Figure of Socrates standing amidst the ruin of shattered institution and opinions, inwardly lamenting the ruin and yet setting a value on the spirit aright, makes a pathetic picture .It is impossible to grasp the true significance of the teaching of Socrates unless we perfectly understand how he characteristically mingled in himself two opposite currents of thought. His teachings were given to the world close on the heels of the sophistic doctrines. They share the free spirit of inquiry which formed the essential feature of Sophisticism, and yet the views embodied in them are in complete opposition to the agnosticism and skepticism of the Sophists.

There is only One way in which the perplexities occasioned by the argumentations of the Sophists could be encountered and rebutted. The one way was to adjure the very spirit of free inquiry which had pulled down everything objective , and to fall back in blind faith on authority. This was the course adopted by the conservative party represented by Aristophanes. They set their faces against the freedom of thought which the Sophists had inaugurated.
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Socrates’ teachings unveil the dual and pathetic nature of his wisdom. His teachings, a perfect blend of divergent ideas, were the important feature of Sophisticism. But the Sophists have failed to follow his outlook in the true spirit. One solution to this vagueness, developed by the Sophists, could be in following the Aristophanes who discouraged the freedom of thought and encouraged authority-following unquestionably. (63 Words)

Title: Sophisticism – disfigure of Socrates’ teachings


Note: i have doubts about the word Sophisticism, i have used it as it is. Is it not Sophism ?

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Socrates’ teachings unveil the dual and pathetic nature of his wisdom. His teachings, a perfect blend of divergent ideas, were the important feature of Sophisticism. But the Sophists have failed to follow his outlook in the true spirit. One solution to this vagueness, developed by the Sophists, could be in following the Aristophanes who discouraged the freedom of thought and encouraged authority-following unquestionably. (63 Words)

Title: Sophisticism – disfigure of Socrates’ teachings


Note: i have doubts about the word Sophisticism, i have used it as it is. Is it not Sophism ?

Regards,

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Nice work, Acme. No it is right word.

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Seem tough


It was not so in Greece, where philosophers professed less, and undertook more. Parmenides pondered nebulously over the mystery of knowledge; but the pre-Socratics kept their eyes with fair consistency upon the firm earth, and sought to ferret out its secrets by observation and experience, rather than to create it by exuding dialectic; there were not many introverts among the Greeks. Picture Democritus, the Laughing Philosopher; would he not be perilous company for the dessicated scholastics who have made the disputes about the reality of the external world take the place of medieval discourses on the number of angles that could sit on the point of a pin? Picture Thales, who met the challenge that philosophers were numskulls by “cornering the market” and making a fortune in a year. Picture Anaxagoras, who did the work of Darwin for the Greeks and turned Pericles form a wire-pulling politician into a thinker and a statesman, Picture old Socrates, unafraid of the sun or the stars, gaily corrupting young men and overturning governments; what would he have done to these bespectacled seedless philosophasters who now litter the court of the once great Queen? To Plato, as to these virile predecessors, epistemology was but the vestibule of philosophy, akin to the preliminaries of love; it was pleasant enough for a while, but it was far from the creative consummation that drew wisdom’s lover on. Here and there in the shorter dialogues, the Master dallied amorously with the problems of perception, thought, and knowledge; but in his more spacious moments he spread his vision over larger fields, built himself ideal states and brooded over the nature and destiny of man. And finally in Aristotle philosophy was honoured in all her boundless scope and majesty; all her mansions were explored and made beautiful with order; here every problem found a place and every science brought its toll to wisdom. These men knew that the function of philosophy was not to bury herself in the obscure retreats of epistemology, but to come forth bravely into every realm of inquiry, and gather up all knowledge for the coordination and illumination of human character and human life.


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It was not so in Greece, where philosophers professed less, and undertook more. Parmenides pondered nebulously over the mystery of knowledge; but the pre-Socratics kept their eyes with fair consistency upon the firm earth, and sought to ferret out its secrets by observation and experience, rather than to create it by exuding dialectic; there were not many introverts among the Greeks. Picture Democritus, the Laughing Philosopher; would he not be perilous company for the dessicated scholastics who have made the disputes about the reality of the external world take the place of medieval discourses on the number of angles that could sit on the point of a pin? Picture Thales, who met the challenge that philosophers were numskulls by “cornering the market” and making a fortune in a year. Picture Anaxagoras, who did the work of Darwin for the Greeks and turned Pericles form a wire-pulling politician into a thinker and a statesman, Picture old Socrates, unafraid of the sun or the stars, gaily corrupting young men and overturning governments; what would he have done to these bespectacled seedless philosophasters who now litter the court of the once great Queen? To Plato, as to these virile predecessors, epistemology was but the vestibule of philosophy, akin to the preliminaries of love; it was pleasant enough for a while, but it was far from the creative consummation that drew wisdom’s lover on. Here and there in the shorter dialogues, the Master dallied amorously with the problems of perception, thought, and knowledge; but in his more spacious moments he spread his vision over larger fields, built himself ideal states and brooded over the nature and destiny of man. And finally in Aristotle philosophy was honoured in all her boundless scope and majesty; all her mansions were explored and made beautiful with order; here every problem found a place and every science brought its toll to wisdom. These men knew that the function of philosophy was not to bury herself in the obscure retreats of epistemology, but to come forth bravely into every realm of inquiry, and gather up all knowledge for the coordination and illumination of human character and human life.


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Philosophy - As a tool for teaching

Greek Philosophers scanty works, examine in ample. Pre-socrates tried to revealed the truth of earth with wisdom and consciousness rather bluffing it. Philosophers like Democritus, Thales, Anaxagoras, Socrates and Plato puts their efforts in same direction to broaden the horizon of thinking and let their successors to think out of the box for the welfare of mankind. They gave lesson to their successors to learn from them, that standing for the truth and benefit of the mankind and human character; would give them honor and prestige in every kingdom.


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Title: Importance of Law


Law protects every one whether he is strong or weak it does not support any evil It is because of law that our civilization develops if there is no law then our civilization will not have to be developed in such a way.


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Title: Role of Literature

Literature is mirror of a particular age.We have not seen the poets and other learned people of the past but it the literature which enable us to know how much they were learned.


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