Voice Of Satan

[riz]

From many centuries , man is trying to explore the secrets of this vast universe and his own existence,with some confusing questions;like that what is main objective behind his creation?and from whom did he create? In the regard of these puzzling questions man has formed many thoeries.all these 've been based to prove that this gigantic universe is the result of some expolsion and there is no place for the proper planning towards the creation of this universe and man. and according to these theories the end of the universe like its birth ,just as an accedental!

In defacto, all these thories are failure to make a rough estimate of this universe and man's statu in it.

DIFFERENT RELIGIONS AND THE CONCEPT OF MAN AND UNIVERSE:
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An american states man "thomasopine",says "Every religion is a good that teaches man to be good."In the lihgt of this saying,wcan say that the system of faith or worship is a religion and the freedom of religious beliefs are one of the fundamental rights of a man and also according to this principle,one can adopt any religion of his own choice.Now it is here totally depended upon the man that how he can perform his right role and how he can identify himself the right place .
Talking about the relion, we see that in the HINDUISM ,BUDDHISM and HRISTAIN 'VE AN INCOMPETE concept of the existence of both the man and universe,they are against the all man made thoeries.They frimly believe that this univeres is not the result of any kind of blast but there is definitely someone ,whom they call "creator".

ISLAMIC VIEW ABOUT THE MAN AND UNIVERSE:
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Accoding to the islamic conept of the universe, this existence is not an accedental but rather it is well ordered ,systemaic kingdom created by ALLAH,who alone has soveringhty over it.while comparing the other religions it is crystal clear that all the other religions are not showing any single point wher one can be guided rightly,they all are looking still agree on some points of the theories.But no doubt that only islam depected a complete picture of man and the universe and also guides that what man has to do. Islam entirly rejects all these thoeries with prove.for example; according to these theories "this universe is the result of some sudden blast and nothing else". but the ALLAH the creator of this universe says in the Holy book Quran" whatever is there on the earth, has created by Alimighty ALLAH".

Holy Quran further states that " when the ALLAH wants to create a thing ,He just say "kun" and it becomes".

So, here it is proved by islam that this universe is a result of well planned creator, who created all things which are on the earth and in the universe.

In the case of man according to the man made theory" the evolution of man" it states that man is devloped from the reptiles.For the creation of man ALLAH declared that " He sent his vicegerent ( man) on the earth."

This verse of the holy Quran obviously shows the role and the respected place of man, which never be discribed by the other religions.

FOR the fuerther clearence ALLAH says ; " And almighty ALLAH created adam(man) in the best shape".

Here ALLAH describes the value of man and shows that ALLAH gave superiorty man to all the other creatures.

The holy book of LLAH gives satisfactory answere about man's creation and its role in the universe to the confusing humanmind. It surely makes stisfaction about his existence. In the holy Quran the " surah al rehman and surah yaseen " are the best examples, in which crealy mentioned the crteation ,role and what has to do man in the universe properly.

Allah further explains in the QURAN " if u r diong good as u are my vicegerant and oby me according to my laws and orders that that good part is urs. and if ur diong in oppsite of my sayings, u "ll be punished."

Here ALLAH clearify that what a man has to do and what not. what is for his benefit and what "ll be dangerous for him.

Means islam is a religion only which depected the all answeres simply which arepuzzzling for humanmind.

It has been mentioned so many times in the QURAN that " every thing of of this universe has been created for the benefit of man".The holy QURAN says that when ALLAH created man ALLAH said " you ( angels) bowdow in reverence."

Means ALLAH first of all made his vecigrenet on the earth in the shape of man and showed his reponsiblity that he should do and if he is trying to escape or ovoid HIS laws and disoby HIM ,the man "ll be strickly punished.

Simply to sumup, it is true to say that there is nothing like religion islam, which comfirms the existence of this univeres and role and place of man in definite direction,which clearly shows the two ways of life the right one and the wrong or the obedience and the disobedience of ALLAH.if we the men want to be one of HIS obedient then we mustget the path which HE describes in QURAN and we "ll be at our right place, where we can perfrom our duties properly and in other case we "ll be one of the disobedient of AlLLAH ,where all the troubles are waiting for us.

Means, there is no other religion which can make the perfect guideline for man except ISLAM , which is true religion and which also covers all the speres of humanlife.

ALLAH HIDES THINGS BY PUTTING THEM NEAR US.
RIZ

[Babban Miyan Ding Dong]

Assalam Alaikum,

Shaitaan Bhaiya my humble apologies for being late, actually MERA BASTA GUM HO GAYA THA. MAAFI DE DO.

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States that are being called developed in the contemporary world, have came along way to improve the human conditions of their masses, in terms of better living conditions, free of cost education, and better medical conditions. These problems alone count for half of the problems that the third world countries are faced with today, that are keeping them behind to face the new challenges of the millennium. In general, nations that are not concerned of equipping their masses with better human conditions can never be triumphant. In short, that Pakistan may have nuclear weapons in its arsenal, but its better part of the population lives in substandard housing, are provided with inadequate sanitation and water supply, causing a widespread malnutrition that contributes to spread of diseases and to high infant, childhood, and maternal mortality. In short, we lack everything a society requires to elevate them and in the process elevate their country. In general, states like Pakistan where the social conditions of society are worsening have no choice but to adopt the social welfare function, in which state should be hold responsible to provide basic amenities of life free of cost to its citizens. These services should include and not limited to better living conditions, by means of subsidized housing on low cost, free education until higher secondary to lower the illiteracy rate, and better healthcare for low or free of costs. This is the vision of an ideal state, which can also be called welfare state as well. This paper will focus on the ideas and working of contemporary welfare states, and will analyze some countries as a model, that Pakistan can follow as a precedent to improve itself.

If one is to analyze the welfare state from western thought’s point of view, three main interpretations can be found:

1. The provision of welfare services by the state.

2. In another model the state assume the primary responsibility for the welfare of its citizens, given that they are comprehensive and nor are they enough and neither minimum standards, but are considered universal, because it covers every person as a matter of basic right.

3. A third form exist, where the central or state government assumes the responsibility to provide the services, but is based on combination of efforts put forth by private sector, volunteers and by the state itself.

Modern welfare states were the development of a gradual process for poverty relief that were dissimilar from the previous ones, started emerging in 19th century and continuing through 20th. This was the time, where Europe was transforming through the process of industrial revolution, and was leaving the old ways behind to embrace the new challenges ahead. The most influential of all was the development of social insurance, a program that initiated by Bismarck. Soon, states were embracing the idea of welfare for their masses in their own ways, mainly originating from three main interpretations above. The sociologist T. H. Marshall identifies this system as a distinctive mixture welfare, democracy, and capitalism.

There are ranges of arguments that are directed against this type social development by claiming it to be anti free-market, state intervention and such, where the state can spend its capital on something that is worth more, and let the people develop on their own. Critiques of the welfare states, such as United States argue that providing these services at less or free of costs make its citizens lazy, therefore not contribute to the general growth itself. However, on the other hand the states that do practice the welfare system argue in favor of it on the humanitarian grounds, declaring it to be the democratic way of operating a society and such, and on various other ethical grounds.

Nevertheless, the states that are becoming more of a favorable places to live are based on the welfare system, such as Sweden, which is declared to be the best country to live by UN Human Development Index, few years in a row. In fact, Sweden was one of the poorest countries in Europe in 19th century around, until they came around and improved their transportation and communications, and heavily relied on their income from their natural resources and used their assets to turn their society upside down. The welfare system that is referred as a The Swedish Model, is one of the best examples of the combination of socialism and capitalism, and in fact has been declared the best form of capitalism.

Under it, the government provides a childcare, maternity and paternity leaves for the parents. Incredibly low costs on health care, provide free education at all levels, retirement pensions and many more services under its welfare program, that are delivered to all equally. However, this welfare system does require high taxes, and the population seems to be in favor of it. Sweden has two step progressive tax scale with a municipal income tax of about 30% and a high income state tax of about 50% that kicks in when you earn more than about 500, 000 SEK. In addition, a national VAT tax of 25% is added to everything bought by private citizens except food, transports, and books. One can imagine that even with these higher taxes, people earning scale is still handsome, because everything else is taken care of when the masses pay taxes under this welfare program. Education system in Sweden also requires adult under 18 to finish their high schools, therefore requiring everyone to be able to read and write, and continue with higher education at low or free of cost. Economy of the country is also on the steady and fast track of growth, leaving large surpluses every year. In fact, Sweden seems to be one of the countries investing more in alternative and sustainable technologies of the future to meet 21st century challenges, and to save the environment.

In conclusion, if one is to analyze the history of the modern welfare system and its origins, one has no doubt that it will somehow lead to the early Islamic societies that implemented such system of welfares for their masses, and set the criteria for others to follow. However, it is indeed a sad part, that one hardly sees any contemporary Muslim states to be implementing any such Islamic welfare state ideals, let alone following the western examples. It is my firm believe that if Pakistan were to eradicate its social problems by means of implementing the welfare based programs, that it becomes our duty as a citizen to follow the above model and help the state implement such policies.

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Thanks.

[Adil Memon]

Verily I am a follower of Satan.... hahaha... Hitler ka sidekick to maufi ke kaabil hi nahin hai... mujhe Allah ke hawaley kar do.. waheen hisaab de doonga!

Regards,
Adil Memon

PS: And please avoid giving me such controversial topics. I mess with them a lot!

Suicide Bombing – Justified or Unjustified

Suicide bombing is rampant in Middle East as a means of revenge, revolt and expression of anguish. The sole motive behind this deadly phenomenon is to avenge oppression, occupation and loss of freedom they have been subjected to all their lives in their own lands at the hands of foreign invaders. It is carried out by young men who have lost all hope of peaceful settlements of conflicts and have witnessed the ruthless mass massacre of their family members, the elders, children, neighbors and the bystanders indiscriminately. The ugly vistas of the torture their loved ones bear at the hands of merciless occupying forces revolve round their minds. Sensing themselves weak, desperate and hopeless they attain psychological disorders where morality fades away. Deserted from every source of justice, they take unto themselves the honorable mission to avenge the injustices caused to them, through an extremely brutal fashion i.e. suicide bombing.

A measly number of fanatics have been a substantial motivating force behind youth’s recourse to suicide bombing. They have deceptively misinterpreted some divine verses of the Holy Quran to rationalize such gruesome acts of terrorism. They misguide the youth, with a sense of deprivation, aspiring to earn the pleasure of Allah and seek an abode in Heaven, with their wily manipulation of facts of the Holy Quran.

Whilst coming across an extremist website, the following verses were found claiming to be justifying suicide bombing.

4:74. Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

61:10. O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?-

61:11. That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew!

9:111. Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

The following verses seem to be misinterpreted by some extremists to nourish suicide bombers for attaining their political goals. The tactic of suicide bombing is used primarily for revenge or browbeating purposes which has not been allowed in the Holy Quran in the above verses. In the aforementioned verses, by sacrificing one’s life, it doesn’t mean that such course should be resorted to, deliberately.

Man is Allah’s vicegerent on earth. His very life is Allah’s trust with him. Everyone is thus ordained to act as a guard to Allah’s trusts on him. He has to utilize the trusts on him as prescribed by Allah. These suicide bombers not only kill themselves but blow several innocent civilian people along with the targeted enemy. It is a pathetic form of terrorism indeed, not Jihad.

The Holy Quran upholds the sacredness of life as:

"...if anyone killed a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed the whole people, and if anyone saved a person, it would be as if he saved the whole people." (al-Ma’ida: 32)

"...and take not life which Allah has made sacred, except by way of justice and law..." (al-An’am: 151)

"And, kill (or destroy) not yourselves; verily, Allah is Most Merciful to you." (al-Nisa: 29)

Holy Prophet (PBUH) contradicts suicide in the following lines:

"One who killed himself with iron (i.e. some sharp instrument) would hold that instrument in his hands in the Hell and continue striking himself with it. And who killed himself by poisoning, would have that poison in his hands and would kill himself with it repeatedly."

The above verses and hadith make it clear that under no circumstances, Allah acknowledges suicide. The abode for such people is Inferno, not Paradise.

Suicide negates faith in Allah and the concept that life is a trust of Allah. It is the opposite of the Islamic concept that attaches great sanctity to human life. Instead of seeking and expecting Allah’s favors, it clashes with the Divine commands for the observance of patience, fortitude and perseverance. It is the product of despair and loss of spirit, which the Quran declares sign of disbelieve (kufr). That is why even aspiring for death is forbidden in Islam, let alone committing suicide.

Clincher: Suicide is unjustified under whatever the case may be.

[Satan]

Quaid said that Unity,Faith and Descipline are the key to success and we lack in the discipline, as promised I am now going to curse the one who didnt came up to the task.

Mr.Babban your apologies are acceepted otherwise these half moustache half eye-glass could had easily been replaced with that white beard.

[Babban Miyan Ding Dong]

Assalam Alaikum,

I personally felt very good with this first step towards preparing oneself in a group format. Keeping in mind that we all have a very busy schedules, I was wondering if other members and Teamleader Shaitaan Bhaiya can consider setting a deadline, from next time to start a new assignment, while others can still work on the old one, if they are behind (I would still prefer meeting the deadlines).

I think it will not stall the speed of the overall group, and members who are behind for whatever reason can still catch-up.

One last thing, it would also help if we do live chatting, may be once a week, I know Shaitaan Bhaiya was working on it, so plz cooperate with him.

Thanks.