Dear all,

I am posting the outline of "Great Nations Win Without Fighting" with a different stance. Note These suggestions do not necessarily reflects my point of view. Your comments in this regard will highly be appreciated.

Great Nations Win Without Fighting
(1) Introduction/Thesis Statement
(2) What is a Great Nation? Any examples?
-on Political grounds
-on Economic grounds
-on Military grounds
-on administration/good governance
-Leadership
(3) What is meant by winning?
(4) what is meant by fighting?
-Violence oriented Fights
-Non-Violent Fights
-Struggle- Fight for a cause
(5) Is fighting necessary for Winning?
- A case study of great nations from history.
- Nations only become great after fighting
- But fighting, do not necessarily means violent fighting.
- Fight can be on Economic, Political, Social fronts.
- Military Fights.
(6) Economic Fights
-Communist Russia/China- A fight against Capitalism/Imperialism.
-American Revolution- A fight against Mercantilism.
-French Revolution- A fight against hunger and poverty.
(7) Political Fights
- Creation of Pakistan- Struggle of M.Ali Jinnah
- Mahatama Gandhi- Non violent Self rule Campaign
- Nelson Mendella
(8) Social Fights
- Rise of Socialist/Communist China
- Progressivism - Thedore Rosevelt/Howard Theft/ Woodrow Wilson
(9) Military Fights or Violence oriented fights
- Roman Empire
- Persian Empire
- Islamic Empire
- World Wars
- Polar World
- Gulf Wars
- Srilanka against Tamils
- Afghanistan/ Iraq wars.
(10) Fighting a necessity- a lesson learnt from History.
(11) But violence oriented fights is not a necessity.
(12) Is winning possible with non-violent fights?
(13) what if no fighting (violent or non violent) occurs? Can a nation become a great nation?
(14) what fights are required to win and become a great nation?
-Economic fight
-Social fight
-Political fight
-Military fights- as a last option
(15) Some quotations in favour of struggle/fighting.
(16) Conclusion.

It is like when someone say right with your right hand but you do not listen to him and you start writing with your left hand .

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@rarasham please elaborate

Good Attempt. Just replace the word Fight with Struggle i.e. a Political Struggle, Economic Struggle etc and the rest will be fine

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Umar Abbas Babar
I Know I am Bad But When Bad is the Best, Bad is the Only Choice

Omer sir, that is what i have been saying since day first, but no one is paying attention to me. I have reiterated again and again that there was a sky clear difference between war and fight, but of no use.

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winners never quit, and quitters never win.

Noun: fighting

The act of fighting; any contest or struggle*•*there was fighting in the streets
=combat, fight, scrap


Adjective: fighting

(military) engaged in or ready for military or naval operations*•*review the fighting forces
=active, combat-ready
≈operational

Verb: fight
(fights, fought, fighting)

Be engaged in a fight; carry*on a fight*•*Siblings are always fighting*•*the tribesmen fought each other
=contend, struggle
Fight against or resist strongly*•*Don't fight it!
=defend, dispute, fight back, fight down, oppose
Make a strenuous or laboured effort*•*He fought for breath
=struggle
Exert oneself continuously, vigorously, or obtrusively to gain an end or engage in a crusade for a certain cause or person; be an advocate for*•*She is fighting for women's rights
=agitate, campaign, crusade, press, push

I also interpreted fighting as struggle in my essay, attempted Great Nations taking a position against the topic. My thesis was Nations become great only by fighting and subsequently winning. No winning without fighting. Examples: Rise of Islam, colonial powers etc. Fight is not just traditional warfare but also economic, diplomatic and technological warfare. Realpolitik stuff..

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there is a big difference between war and fight.

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1st ov all I must really appreciate the writers indepth knowledge and grip over world history. What a command you possess in world history, quite impressive, that is. But before commenting anything on your outline I would rather request you to please share your Thesis Statement and introduction, if possible.

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True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. "Socrates"

Naveed Bhutto Bhai,

I would share the thesis statement and introduction in few days. It would be kind of you, if you could comment on the outline.

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