Islamiat Paper . Examiner follows his own ideology or not?

[ARISTOCRAT]

My query is this, whether examiner check the paper keeping his own ideology in front ? If not how can one sure about it? If yes then do not you think its a huge flaw in our examination system.... Comments please


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Originally Posted by ARISTOCRAT

My query is this, whether examiner check the paper keeping his own ideology in front ? If not how can one sure about it? If yes then do not you think its a huge flaw in our examination system.... Comments please


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As far as I can understand, the paper checker, I guess, is given a standardized solution to the paper and he checks in accordance with that solution.

This, however, in no way means that the checker doesn't follow his own knowledge.

It would be much easier for other members, if you could elaborate as to what do you mean by the term "ideology" here as it creates confusion as to what kind of ideology ? Is it related to sects or something else.

Please provide clear understanding of your query.


JazakAllah

[ARISTOCRAT]

Ideology here means , sect, religious attachment to some specific school of thought. Let me rephrase my query,.
If an examiner is checking a paper keeping in view his personal knowledge, his personal way of thinking about religion. Then how can he will do justice with the candidate's paper. He , the examiner, may be inclined to some specific school of thought, or he may be rigid enough . Then what should we expect. ?
As far as the solution and the guidelines given by fpsc are concerned, so there are no hard and fast rules.


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Originally Posted by ARISTOCRAT

As far as the solution and the guidelines given by fpsc are concerned, so there are no hard and fast rules.


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How can you be so sure about this ? If this is the case (no standardized solution to the paper) then obviously the paper checker's objectivity will be in question. And I don't think FPSC will do that, there are thousands of candidates with different religious affiliations and sects.

Moreover, the paper checker will check for knowledge of the said question and not religious affiliation of the candidate and that knowledge will be checked by some kind of threshold as we are not scholars to have enormous knowledge about any specific religious issue.

So, your question about checker being subjective to his religious affiliation is valid but FPSC is not blind to give such task to any person who is biased in his approach to checking.

So, my thinking in this sense has been that there will be some sort of checking threshold provided to the checker, otherwise there would have never been the pattern of students failing one paper in one year and same student failing other subject(passed in earlier attempts) in another attempt.

For instance (from my own experience) many candidates failed essay in CE-13 and those students who even passed essay in CE-12 were failed in CE-13 in essay paper.

Similarly, students failing in essay paper in CE-13, mostly passed essay paper in CE-14. This trend, however, might not continue keeping in view the regrouping and change of syllabus.

Crux of whole argument is that there will be some kind of threshold set by FPSC for the checker to carry out his duty.

JazakAllah

[ARISTOCRAT]

The problem in open handed questions is, examiners objectivity is not up to the mark. Examiners took even papers with them to home, check there, though this practice is not allowed. So a big question mark on the objectivity asa well as credibility of respected examiners. I have experienced such things in my own , have seen this . So ....


There are flaws in our entire system , a person who passed in all 11 subjects, got failed in islamiat in 2014, other then islamiat , he had an aggregate of 710.


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Originally Posted by ARISTOCRAT

The problem in open handed questions is, examiners objectivity is not up to the mark. Examiners took even papers with them to home, check there, though this practice is not allowed. So a big question mark on the objectivity asa well as credibility of respected examiners. I have experienced such things in my own , have seen this . So ....


There are flaws in our entire system , a person who passed in all 11 subjects, got failed in islamiat in 2014, other then islamiat , he had an aggregate of 710.


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yes, there are flaws in almost every sector of our country but FPSC is known for its merit based recruitment.

and as far as the "taking copies to home for checking" is concerned, I don't think its true. Many of our seniors who had internal sources in FPSC told us that this checking is done under heavy surveillance and is done at FPSC Head Office and not at home.

Though, I would disagree with their policy of torturing subjects to filter the number of candidates, but by all means it is the best we have got in our flawed system.

The regrouping of subjects and change of syllabus at their part is another attempt to reduce and filter the number of candidates but it will prove beneficial for the candidates in the long run as I hope it will put a stop to the torture policy of FPSC.

My attempts are gone and CE-15 was my last. I wish and pray that this new policy proves fruitful for coming aspirants.

Failure of candidates in Islamiat in CE-14 is also an example of torture policy of FPSC. One of my colleagues who qualified CE-12 failed in CE-14 in Islamiat despite the fact that he had better knowledge and arguments regarding the subject then any of our other colleagues, but yet he failed.

This shows incompetency at the part of FPSC but trust me it is yet better than other recruitment commissions in our country.


JazakAllah

[ARISTOCRAT]

Yes finally they regrouped the subjects , after 1981 . Justice delayed is justice denied, merit could be there in fpsc , but if they do not have capacity to produce results of mcq type papers in three or four months . Fpsc should not take such responsibility. The recent example is inspector inland revenue . Rest assure ., i am not just taunting fpsc. I am concerned about my fellow struggling aspirants and for myself. On a lighter note, Nts , even .. PPSC is performing mush more faster then fpsc now a days.


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