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Hadi Bakhsh Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:47 PM

Questions about NAMAZ . . . Please reply to this
 
Asslam o Alikum
Sir
i have no vocabulary to put my ideas into English so i am writing into Urdu
1) jub hum Imam k pechy Dhur ya Isha ki Namaz parhty hain agr ek ya o rakat qaza ho jati hain to jubImam Attahee'at k leay bethta hay to kia hamin be Attahee'at parhain jub k hum say rakat qazq ho gae hay ?
2) jo rakats hum say qaza ho gae wo hum khud pahrangy jub IMAM k salam pehrny k baad to kia humain un rakat mein hum AL ham'd ( fatha) k baad koi sorh be parhangy?
3) Dhur aur asar ki NAMAZ mein IMAM buland awaz mein Qirat q nahin karta ?
thanks in advance and guide me about ISLAMIC books that support me for any competitive exams as well as source of ISLAMI knowledge

Cute Badshah Wednesday, February 01, 2012 03:59 AM

Answer to 1st Q: Imam ki taqleed mien ap Attahee'at pori parh sakty hien ya kam az kam Ash'had tak parhna lazmi hai.

Answer to 2nd Q: Jitni rakatein apsy qaza hui hun, un mien jahan Fatiha k baad surat parhni ho wahan parhengy aur jahan na parhni hon wahan nahi parhengy. Jis tarha Akely Namaz parhi jati hai.

On your third Q, I'm not really sure k why but I listen somewhere that its Sunnah Rasool ( S.a.w) hai.

roijen Wednesday, February 01, 2012 09:39 AM

I try to answer it. there are slight changes as how should one pray depending on which Imam one follows. All imams are right. A Hanafi will go as following:

[QUOTE]1) jub hum Imam k pechy Dhur ya Isha ki Namaz parhty hain agr ek ya o rakat qaza ho jati hain to jubImam Attahee'at k leay bethta hay to kia hamin be Attahee'at parhain jub k hum say rakat qazq ho gae hay ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]2) jo rakats hum say qaza ho gae wo hum khud pahrangy jub IMAM k salam pehrny k baad to kia humain un rakat mein hum AL ham'd ( fatha) k baad koi sorh be parhangy?[/QUOTE]

Namazi jis bhi rukan main Jamat se mile ga us par Imam ki atat lazim ho gi.

Suppose, its Isha prayer, 4 faraiz rakat, and i am late and join

a) 1st rakat before ruku or during ruku so that i am able to say tasbeeh three times, then the rakat is offered, no need to repeat. Imam kay sath salam phairunga.

b) If I join 1st rakat after ruku or during ruku so that i am unable to say tasbeeh for three times before Imam says Samiallaholimanhamidah, then i missed 1st rakat and have to repeat after imam's conclusion (salam)

How will I complete 1st left over rakat? I will repeat it by stopping tashahud in the fourth rakat before darud sharif and wait for imam to say salam. When he declares salam I will stand up and say that rakat as normally mufrid namaz, means SuraAl Fatiha + other sura and will complete it normally.

c) if i miss 1st rakat altogether and in the second rakat before ruku or during ruku so that i am able to say tasbeeh three times, then the second rakat is counted, only i have to repeat 1st as above.

D) if i join 2nd rakat after ruku or during ruku so that i am unable to say tasbeeh for three times before Imam says Samiallaholimanhamidah, then i missed (1st + 2nd) and have to repeat in the end.

How to repeat 1st and second: i will simply stop after Tashahud in the last rakat of imam i.e. 4rth one and would not offer darud,dua but will rise (qayyam) and continue 1st rakat (then again stand w/o qa'da), offer 2nd rakat (in the end of which i will say salam and conclude namaz)

e) agar main 3rd rakat main ruku se pehle ya ruku k darmiyan jamat se milta hun aise k main teen bar ruku tasbeeh parh laita hun to teesri rakat count ho gai, sirf 1st + 2nd missing hain jis ka tareeka uper bataya.

f) agar main 3rd rakat main milta hun to agar tasbeeh mukammal nahi ki ya ruku ke bad milta hun meri 3rd rakat ada nahi huwi.

Now I will say 1, 2, 3 rakat after imam says salam. What i will do is, i will stop after Attahiyyat in the final rakat and would not offer darud and dua.but will rise in qayyam to resume left over rakaat. now since qa'da/Tashahud has to come alternatively and it has to come in the final rakat i.e. 3rd, so it will also come in the 1st. So when i stood to offer 1st left over rakat, i recited S.Fatiha+any sura, will have qa'da, but after
Attahiyyat i will stand again for 2nd rakat (same S.Fatiha+any other part of Holy Quran) which will go w/o Attahiyyat, and then 3rd (only Fatiha in it since farz namaz main 3rd aur 4th rakat main surat nahi milate) which is the final rakat and will conclude namaz with salam.

Summary: 1st (S.Fatiha+other sura, with attahiyat/tashahud only) 2nd (S.Fatiha+other sura, no qa'da/tashahud) 3rd (final: S.Fatiha only and uptil darud dua and salam)

g) Agar main 4rth rakat main jamat kay saath milta hun to agar ruku main ya is se pehle yun mil gaya keh tasbeeh parh li imam ki injunction se pehle to 4rth rakat has been counted. Only then 3 missed, jisk tareeka uper likha hai.

h) agar 4rth rakat bhi miss ho gai to mujhay charo paRhani hongi. albatta agar main imam k salam kehne se pehle shamil huwa to muje jamat ka sawab mil gaya (which is 25xinfiradi namaz of Dhuhar, Asr, Maghrib time; & 27xinfiradi namaz of Fajr and Isha)

1,2,3,4 left over hain parhni hain. Inhain usi tarah mukammal karen gay jaisay infiradi farz namaz. 2nd aur 4rth main qa'da karengay. 2nd main darud se pehle uth jaingay, 4rth main darud, aur dua k baad salam pher daingay.

1 (S.Fatiha+other sura; normal) 2 (S.Fatiha+other sura; qa'da) 3 (S.Fatiha only; normal) 4rth (final: S.Fatiha only with tashahud, durud, dua and salam)

Maghrib ki namaz ka tareeka mukhtalif hota hai, sirf thora sa. Agar maghrib ki 1st mis ho gai, to wo normal tareekay se ada karengay. [B]Agar do miss ho gayin, to 1st main bhi qa'da (do zano baithna) aur second main bhi qada, albata 1st chonkay final rakat nahi hai, darud se pehle uth jaya jayega. this is important. yani yahan per alternate qa'do ka rule apply nahi hota[/B]
agar 3 ki 3 miss ho gai to mufrid namaz ki tarah mukammal karengay. 1st (w/o qa'da) 2nd (with qa'da but w/o darud-o-dua) 3rd (final rakat: with qa'da, with darud-o-dua and salam)

PS: jamat main shamil hone k liye haste kabhi nahi karni chahiye chahe rakat miss hi q na ho rahi ho, jaise aksar log masjid main bhagte bhi hain, is se masjid k taqadus disturb hota hai. mazeed zaruri nahi k niyyat lafz ba lafz ki jae, agar is se der hoti ho to dil main bhi ki ja sakti hai.

[QUOTE]3) Dhur aur asar ki NAMAZ mein IMAM buland awaz mein Qirat q nahin karta ?[/QUOTE]
do tarah ki namaz hai, sirri aur jahri. Dhuhar aur asr imam tilawat nahi karta, u know much in islam depends on time of the day. its day's white when these prayers are offered. but why exactly then i dont know because its tradition of the Prophet (SAW), a tradition which was never broken even for one time in these 1433 years. So its true and we have to follow.

[QUOTE]guide me about ISLAMIC books that support me for any competitive exams as well as source of ISLAMI knowledge[/QUOTE]

Rest assured, aisa sawal competitive exam main nahi ae ga. Seekhne walo ki ghalatiya muaf hain, and Allah knows better.

Hadi Bakhsh Wednesday, February 01, 2012 07:59 PM

thanks . . .
 
Asslam O Alikum
Sir
thanks a lot . . . bundle of thanks because i have no more words to say here except thanks and blessings . . . i pray for your better health and success
MAY ALMIGHTY ALLAH SHOWER HIS BLESSINGS UPON YOU . . .
i could never forget your thanks . . . the way in which you discussed all problems , MA'SHA ALLAH . . . really world established due to pious people , , ,
i think there is no need for question but still i have confusion
1) when i joined Jammait in 4th rakaut during Qa'ada when Imam and Jammat offer Attahee'at , Darud and Dua then should i offer attahe'eat only ?
2) please suggest some ISLAMI Books which cover solution to such problems . . .
once again i am thakful to you . . .:bow:bow:

roijen Saturday, February 04, 2012 04:21 PM

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Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace. [Surah Alahzab, Ayat 56]
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Tomorrow is a great day.

All praise be to Allah who has made His Deen easy for us. And all the blessings be on Prophet (SAW); the concept of blessing originates from his being.
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[QUOTE]1) when i joined Jammait in 4th rakaut during Qa'ada when Imam and Jammat offer Attahee'at , Darud and Dua then should i offer attahe'eat only ?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Attahiyyat only and wait for Imam's conclusion.

The deadline to join Jamat is before the Imam completes the word salam in his first offering of Salam.

i.e As[B][I]salam[/I][/B]([SIZE="1"]before completion of this word by imam [/SIZE])oalaikumwarahmatullah when he offers it to his right. In this case the time for attahiyat is over. One just needs to assume Qayyam to complete all the rakaat. Starting from first (sana+tasmia+s.fatiha+any other part of Quran) and so on normally.

[QUOTE]2) please suggest some ISLAMI Books which cover solution to such problems . . .[/QUOTE]
Namaz ki kitab mukammal az ikramul haq. by maktaba islamia rawalpindi. stockists muhammad abdr raheem nashiro tajir aziz market, urdu bazar lahore. i have this one.

A good way is to consult charts displayed in the prayer hall. also ask face to face from imam any qury. face to face learning method is termed best by Ulma.

You can also ask imam to lectures on 'farz namaz main shamil hone ka tareeka' after finding time say fajr or asr prayer. the best way!! :))

rashidrauf Monday, July 28, 2014 04:45 AM

roijin
 
Aoa roijen ap nay last answer likha sana parhni ha first rakat me but innitial answer ma ap direct sura fatiha say suru kar rahay thay i think sana parhni lazmi ha

RAO RAMEEZ Monday, July 28, 2014 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=Hadi Bakhsh;394578]Asslam o Alikum
Sir
i have no vocabulary to put my ideas into English so i am writing into Urdu
1) jub hum Imam k pechy Dhur ya Isha ki Namaz parhty hain agr ek ya o rakat qaza ho jati hain to jubImam Attahee'at k leay bethta hay to kia hamin be Attahee'at parhain jub k hum say rakat qazq ho gae hay ?
2) jo rakats hum say qaza ho gae wo hum khud pahrangy jub IMAM k salam pehrny k baad to kia humain un rakat mein hum AL ham'd ( fatha) k baad koi sorh be parhangy?
3) Dhur aur asar ki NAMAZ mein IMAM buland awaz mein Qirat q nahin karta ?
thanks in advance and guide me about ISLAMIC books that support me for any competitive exams as well as source of ISLAMI knowledge[/QUOTE]
Answer to 3rd Question is that Zuhr and Asr were peak times of business...People used to be busy in buying and selling so Qirrat was forbidden at that time... As far as I remember I read it years before so can't remember the exact source but the answer is I am sure 70-80 percent right.


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