Originally Posted by ursula

Hey mam,
Nowadays I am reading a book " war of Afghanistan by peter tomson of public affairs".
I suppose it could be a good stuff to be mentioned here.
Why KSA was interested in Afghan war is a long debate and here I would like to mention some of very few.
Iran and KSA are known in American defence circle as two important pillars of middle eastern reagion.you know we talk about OPEC=KSA+IRAN.
That means worlds resources and important maritime supremacy without Persian gulf is a naive term with a naive explanation.

Now come to my essay, that I have had attempted in ce-16. I did mention "wilsonian......" just check out ididmt remember exactly.I.e. Grand middle east concept and primacy at heartland theory.By making proxy players of iran against ksa, permanent seed of destruction were sowed in middle east.Since, puppet ruler Shah of iran was assisted to stab the Iraqi anti saddam forces like kurds and when kurds leader adopted the path of violence KSA was ....
(Its too long story)
Anyhow, it ended at petrodollar politics and I have already mentioned that Iran and kSA were key player, while house of sauds are purely monarch, khomeni in Iran were anti salafites thus permanent ethnic cauldron was set in(you can consult berzizinskis grand primacy that how they had had planned that boiling sectarian pot.

When it comes to geopolitical definations then remember Afghanistan is just a scapegoat,Pakistan because of its geostrategic significance, ethnolinguistic attachments and ofcaurse our military push ups are something that Saudis desperately needed keeping in view of its conflict with yeman, syria, lebanon and to some extent with israel:while, Foster Dulles and his cousin led companies like David Rockefeller knew how to reap the maximum benefits out of such plots.king al Faisal signed petrodollar agreements and in return house of Arab sheikhdoms were secured from alawites attack.


Using the nazis propaganda machines and having a tactics of OSS(three special bridges were prepared by three different releigous fanats--i mean, mechinaries from Christians, assassins from Muslims(suicide bombers), and Zions from Jews.

Red army was a menance, its because they had their own vested imterest:while, ksa had already established its romantic affairs with EXXON,MOBIL,BP, and Shell companies.
Mossadaq(my favourite leader) did nothing except kicked out these leeches to move out of the Iranian territory, much like the same done by Fiedel castro in Cuba.
Saudis knew that had there been mossadaa in Iran or tudeh party activist, Riyadh would no more bd saved without such revolutions.For that purpose a planned assessins named by us Al-qaeda anx Taliban were installed. And in order to finance the war opium production was cultivated, adding insult to the injury a permanent scar of gulbadin hikmatyar and his fanactism had left on afg-pak face in the form of acid throwing incidences on women's faces, burning of girls school incidences, obsessive and medical islamism, and anti nationalistic pan utopian religious practices like contemporary isl led crisis.

Anyhow, I made the story too short, I didactly studied it from all aspects and if you want some more explanation or question out of my explanation, feel free to ask me.
P.s. I am bit tired that's why I am posting it without perviewing it and I hope you would ignore my all mistakes.

Originally Posted by Uzair Awan

Simple Answer is that Saudia was a US ally at that time

Originally Posted by Uzair Awan

Simple Answer is that Saudia was a US ally at that time

Originally Posted by faiza rajput

Thank you Ursula for sharing your information. I especially liked the reference you have mentioned in your answer. I will now easily search this topic in detail.

Originally Posted by ursula

Ally,
Ha aha!
Its not alliance, its a called "vested interest". I mean in realpopitik, we use a term I will scratch your back and you will be of mine.


Again don't rely on a single source, take out some PDF, make your own independent analysis.That's the thing I wanted to say my cofollowers.Dont accpet even my opinion.


Dude,
Wo kaha jata he na" scary dunya jaunty he masewae us k jis ko janna tha"
Its an eye opening evidence and mashallah, our ex isi general hamid gulf had had said on the record about this guy..For your info, Quetta shura was also created by that stubborn mullah type salafite.Nowadays, I am working on golden triangle,,do search out BCCI(Bank of credit and commerce investment)
That snobbish guy along with zia legacy were drug Mafia, who used to launder their pecuniary rewards out of drug trafficking in Karachi led branch......
Oh gossh, story gets toooo long.

Check out from any source.

I did remember that I already elaborated that person once in the past.just check out my initial post back in December.

Originally Posted by Math Maniac

Hey Ursula, can you please suggest me a good book for IR.

Originally Posted by ursula

One book, brother its too difficult!
Joshua s Goldstein is a good combination.... besides other.

Very true,
Brother,I hope you had read once in junior classes " the wolf and the lamb"…Same case is applied here, when you need to justify unlawful act in a lawful manner, you need a boggymam,which was "communism" in the past and " terroist" in the contemporary politics.all about deep pockets and their vested interest.
Check out this.

http://www.cssforum.com.pk/938675-post6.html

Originally Posted by faiza rajput

Ursula, kindly share the link of this mentioned post. I'd like to read this whole discussion......

Originally Posted by ursula

Sure!!!
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/general/d...on-system.html
In case of any confusion or even difference of opinion, find me among the welcoming guest.