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Well, this is great news cz i like healthy discussion in which there is something new to learn.... mere discussion for discussion is what I hate most.....
But remember learning without questioning is incomplete. I don't know why aspirants don't like to argue.While, I am expecting something long long and long discussion and counter arguments.lolllll!!!
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But remember learning without questioning is incomplete. I don't know why aspirants don't like to argue.While, I am expecting something long long and long discussion and counter arguments.lolllll!!!
Ohhh you misunderstood my point......
I meant what good any discussion or questioning is when your intent is not of learning, mere teasing next person or time passing is in no way healthy.......
What i think of healthy discussion is sharing your point of view, listening to other, then thinking about it, then contradict with argument or support by adding additional information till reaching a new conclusion or theory........ Correct me if I am wrong....
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Ally,
Ha aha!
Its not alliance, its a called "vested interest". I mean in realpopitik, we use a term I will scratch your back and you will be of mine.


Again don't rely on a single source, take out some PDF, make your own independent analysis.That's the thing I wanted to say my cofollowers.Dont accpet even my opinion.


Dude,
Wo kaha jata he na" scary dunya jaunty he masewae us k jis ko janna tha"
Its an eye opening evidence and mashallah, our ex isi general hamid gulf had had said on the record about this guy..For your info, Quetta shura was also created by that stubborn mullah type salafite.Nowadays, I am working on golden triangle,,do search out BCCI(Bank of credit and commerce investment)
That snobbish guy along with zia legacy were drug Mafia, who used to launder their pecuniary rewards out of drug trafficking in Karachi led branch......
Oh gossh, story gets toooo long.

Check out from any source.

I did remember that I already elaborated that person once in the past.just check out my initial post back in December.
Okay... Lets resume to our discussion.....

@Ursula so you are saying that Afghan leader was using Pakistani port (KARACHI) for smuggling its drugs a over the world, as we all know Afghan is land lock country.... and in exchange, Pakistan was supporting them against northern alliance......
Sounds bad..... but what if you were in leadership position at that time.... what would be your options???? keeping in view the geo strategic challenges, Pakistan's international standing at that time etc....
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Okay... Lets resume to our discussion.....

@Ursula so you are saying that Afghan leader was using Pakistani port (KARACHI) for smuggling its drugs a over the world, as we all know Afghan is land lock country.... and in exchange, Pakistan was supporting them against northern alliance......
Exactly!!!
There is not even a cent percent doubt in it.Do you know zia was such a mastermind that he was named as "Heroin linchpin", much like "shah of Iran".


Its all about the vested interest of piggy banks like "Amaco, citibank and ..........No need to mention bush and his family led "Gold man Sachs".Such a despicable history that you will start crying.sadly enough not confined to non Muslims only..
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Sounds bad..... but what if you were in leadership position at that time.... what would be your options???? keeping in view the geo strategic challenges, Pakistan's international standing at that time etc....
Very good question.
I've a comprehensive answer, but I would love to know your opinion first.
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Exactly!!!
There is not even a cent percent doubt in it.Do you know zia was such a mastermind that he was named as "Heroin linchpin", much like "shah of Iran".


Its all about the vested interest of piggy banks like "Amaco, citibank and ..........No need to mention bush and his family led "Gold man Sachs".Such a despicable history that you will start crying.sadly enough not confined to non Muslims only..

Very good question.
I've a comprehensive answer, but I would love to know your opinion first.
Hmmmmmm @Ursula although I never ask a question when I know the answer......... Anyhow let me try...... :/

My opinion is it all goes back to the time of independence..... We embrace Us as "friend"... OK, need of the time butttt We alienate Russia... That was biggest mistake of that time... Our international problems start with this very decision but I don't know why our policy makers and so called leaders of that time were obsessed so much with Russia that they ignored all rationales....
Then comes Iran..... It was first country who recognize Pakistan but we chose KSA. Keeping in view Pakistan population, it seems necessary but we ignored that the problem that KSA can create two days, Iran can do the same in Two hours as She share long border....

Afghanistan is troubling since the time of our inception....

So when we combine all these facts, we see a picture in which we are trapped in our own net.... we have made that check n mate position with our own hands.....

So I guess it was necessary to support the Taliban in Afghanistan to secure our western borders, but we shouldn't allow our soil to be used.... Training could be done in afghanistan... All the money was in control of ISI and it was not hard for it to handle the training camps in Afghanistan.

Moreover, we failed disastrously to imancipate the fall out of the war, colletral damages, what would happen when war will over... Hamid gull anticipate the break down of Soviet Union in 1983, still we did not pay any attention. If you are following "Syrian War", you must know that one of the reasons that Russia sent its troops in Syria is that "She is afraid that radical people will return home and create problems so its better to fix them in the battle ground." Sadly, none of our policy maker thought of it at that time and created a Frankenstein monster... "America's original target was Pakistan" Every body knows that except Pakistan's policy makers.... So it was necessary to draw a complete map of above mentioned facts and hypothesis and then make a policy like set the terms with USA about the future of "Mujahideen". We should ask question to America that what will happen to Afghanistan AFTER THE WAR.... But we made that mistake 35 years ago and sadly turkey has made that mistake NOW .....

My answer is not up to the mark but I tried to present my raw opinion... Comment and share yours.....
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