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Default year 1206...???

In some old papers, question was about something like "muslim society or politics after year 1206 AD".

According to my information regime of Dehli Sultans emerged in the year 1193 AD. So if there is anyone who knows the particular importance of year 1206 AD, please share.
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Dear from 1206 onwards rules of different dynasties took place i.e.

Slave Dynasty [1206-1290]
Khalji Dynasty [1290-1320]
Tughlaq Dynasty[1290-1414]
Saiyid Dynasty [1414-1451]
Lodhi Dynasty [1451-1526]

and after 1526 Mughals took over the throne of Delhi.

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Assalam Alaikum,

Brother you bring a valid point here.

Muslims came to South Asia, starting from Mohammad Bin Qasim and India came into muslims rule who ruled it from outside its borders. Same goes with Mahmood Ghaznavi and Mohammad Ghauri.

The reason Mahmood Ghaznavi was not able to establish a firm rule in India was because he had his own territory to take care of, therefore he went back and forth. But Mohammad Ghauri was not a ruler, it was his brother who actually ruled and let him conquer India. Mohammad Ghauri went to conquer more territory than his predecessors because he did not had to go back n' forth to look after his own territory. Since Mohammad Ghauri did not had any children, he bought slaves and trained them to be scholars with the best training money could buy at that time. However, Mohammad Ghauri for the reasons to not commit any Civil War with his ruler brother did not establish a proper sulatanate based out of India.

But after the death of Ghauri, his slaves whom he considered like his children took over. Therefore 1206 was the year, when the rule to India was established within the borders and outside Muslim Sulatanate did not had any control over it.

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Thanks a lot for the valuable pieces of information. I was actually confused with years 1193 AD and 1206 AD. Actually Shahab-ud-Din Ghauri attacked on India in year 1193. At that time and onward upto 1206, he was represented in Lahore, Dehli and Ajmair areas, by his assistant (may be his brother) named Mueez-ud-Din Ghauri. Babban Mian is right in identifying true particular importance of year 1206 AD because this was the time when locus of control, of the Muslim rulers, established first time within India.

Year 1193, has its importance because Ghaznavi regime diappeared in Lahore, this year.

Muhammad Bin Qasim was a soldiar of Maavia Caliphat, After some time, the Caliphat went in the hands of Abbasidies. So earlier Muslim Sind was under the control of Baghdad regime. However some areas like Multan and Mansoora were taken up by Quramti Ismaeelies (Muslims) who were the followers of Egeptian Fatimic Caliphat. So generaly, we can say that early rule in Muslim Sind was under the control of Arab world. Second regime in the Muslim India was Tukish. It emerged in year 1010 AD, when first of all Multan was taken up by Mehmood Ghaznavi.

Ghauri period was also the continuation of Turkish rule over India. Gulaman were also Turkish. But the Khiljies were Afghans. Khiljies and then Suries had been the Afghan rulers of the Muslim India. And Mughal were also Turks.

Another interesting thing is that famous ruler Ballban was originally a "slave" of "Ghulam" rulers. His period is also covered under the Ghulaman dynasty.
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aoa,
I think there are some mistakes in mr.khurram's explaination. Plz correct me if im wrong.
1)Shahab-ud-din ghauri and muez-ud-din muhammad bin Sam are one and the same.Ghiyas-ud-din (elder brother of ghauri) captured Ghazni in 1173 and entrusted it to his younger brother MUiz-ud-din bin Sam(Muhammad Ghauri) and returned to his capital.Ghiyas-ud-din bestowed his brother with the title of Shahab-ud-din, but at the time of his coronation he took up the title of Muiz-ud-din instead of shahab-ud-din.Ghauri's real name was 'Muhammad".Conclusion: Shahab-ud-din Ghauri is muiz-ud-din ghauri.

2) Ghaznavi regime did not come to an end in Lahore in 1193 AD, but in 1186AD.

im preparing for indo pak history and i need to know if im misunderastanding things, so if anyone can verify my correction, ill appreciate it.

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Thanks a lot for the valuable pieces of information. I was actually confused with years 1193 AD and 1206 AD. Actually Shahab-ud-Din Ghauri attacked on India in year 1193. At that time and onward upto 1206, he was represented in Lahore, Dehli and Ajmair areas, by his assistant (may be his brother) named Mueez-ud-Din Ghauri. Babban Mian is right in identifying true particular importance of year 1206 AD because this was the time when locus of control, of the Muslim rulers, established first time within India.

Year 1193, has its importance because Ghaznavi regime diappeared in Lahore, this year.

Muhammad Bin Qasim was a soldiar of Maavia Caliphat, After some time, the Caliphat went in the hands of Abbasidies. So earlier Muslim Sind was under the control of Baghdad regime. However some areas like Multan and Mansoora were taken up by Quramti Ismaeelies (Muslims) who were the followers of Egeptian Fatimic Caliphat. So generaly, we can say that early rule in Muslim Sind was under the control of Arab world. Second regime in the Muslim India was Tukish. It emerged in year 1010 AD, when first of all Multan was taken up by Mehmood Ghaznavi.

Ghauri period was also the continuation of Turkish rule over India. Gulaman were also Turkish. But the Khiljies were Afghans. Khiljies and then Suries had been the Afghan rulers of the Muslim India. And Mughal were also Turks.

Another interesting thing is that famous ruler Ballban was originally a "slave" of "Ghulam" rulers. His period is also covered under the Ghulaman dynasty.
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Muhammad Ghuri [1160-1206]

Muizz-ud-din Muhammad bin Sam, commonly known as Shahab-ud-din Muhammad Ghuri is one of the key persons who played a significant role in the establishment of Muslim rule in North India. An ambitious person, Muhammad Ghuri wanted to extend his rule towards South Asia. He took the small state of Ghazni from his brother Ghiyas-ud-din Muhammad bin Sam and turned it into an empire by conquering vast territories. First he captured the area ruled by the Ghaznavids and later on extended his rule to North India and Bengal. He was an able general and a brave soldier. He never let a temporary defeat stand in his way.
After his defeat in the first battle of Tarain in 1191 at the hands of Prithvi Raj Chauhan, ruler of Delhi and Ajmer, he spent a complete year preparing for war. He came back in 1192 and defeated Raj Chauhan in the second battle of Tarain. He was the first Muslim ruler to conquer Delhi and establish a Muslim rule in India.
Muhammad Ghuri was a loyal brother. He refrained from declaring his independence in South Asia, knowing that it would result in civil war between the two brothers. Till the death of Ghiyas-ud-din Muhammad bin Sam in 1202, Ghuri never considered himself anything but a general in his brother's army. After every victory he would send the best of the looted items to his elder brother in Firuz Koh. Ghiyas-ud-din reciprocated by never interfering in the affairs of his younger brother. Thus they were each able to concentrate on their own responsibilities. As a result, Muhammad Ghuri managed to push permanent Muslim rule much further east than Mahmud Ghaznavi did.
Muhammad Ghuri had no heirs and thus he treated his slaves as his sons. It is said that he trained thousands of Turkish slaves in the art of warfare and administration. Most of his slaves were given excellent education. During his reign many hardworking and intelligent slaves rose to positions of excellence. Once a courtier regretted that Sultan has no male heirs. Ghuri immediately replied, "Other monarchs may have one son, or two sons; I have thousands of sons. Namely my Turkish slaves who will be the heirs of my dominions, and who, after me, will take care to preserve my name in the Khutbah throughout these territories". Ghuri's prediction proved true when he was succeeded by a dynasty of Turkish Slaves.
Though Ghuri's main aim was the expansion of his empire, he also took an interest in the patronization of education and learning. Illustrious Muslim philosopher Fakh-ud-din Razi and the well know poet Nizami Aruzi were few of the big names of his era.
In 1206, Ghuri had to travel to Lahore to crush a revolt. On his way back to Ghazni, his caravan halted at Damik near Jehlum. He was killed while offering his evening prayers. Many think that the murderer was an Ismaili. However, some historians believe that the murderer belonged to the warrior Ghakkar tribe that resided in the area. He was buried where he fell and his tomb has recently been renovated. Muhammad Ghuri is remembered as an empire builder and is justly called the founder of the Muslim Empire in Indo-Pakistan.

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Yes Microsoft Encarta gives following title about him:

Muhammad of Ghur (died 1206), also called Muizuddin Muhammad ibn Sam or Shihabuddin Muhammad Ghori, Muslim conqueror of northern India. In 1173...


@ Saania: Thanks for correction.

@gudoo: Thanks for valueable details.
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