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Question muslim nationalism and evolution of muslim society?

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i want to ask seniors here that is there any genuine difffernce between the answers of the following 2 questions
1-evolution of muslim society in the sub continent.
2-establishment of muslim nationalism in sub continennt.
else both of the abv statemnts are two sides of the same coin?
actually iam confused over the answering content of both the above statements.kindly brief what are the content of both of the abv questions?
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although these two questions are quite interrelated and ultimately their contents will also be somehow similar with each other, but still there will be some differnces while answering these two questions, for the muslim society we'll start from sufis, saints and muslim traders who started settling in the coastal areas of sub-continent, then you will end the question with the refernces of silsilas....then at the end briefly highlighting the establishment of pakistan aand its whole struggle was the ongoing impact of the establishment of muslim society in the sub continent,

whereas, in the question of muslim nationalism you will give the brief intro of establishment of muslim society, then muhammad bin qasim's invasion, silsilas, sir syed's contribution to nationalism, the concept of joint and separate nationalism, hindi-urdu controversy, partition of bengol and all those incidents and events that led to the establishment of pakistan.

then include the personalities who contributed in the process, a brief account of Pakistan movement very briefly and the end of both questions will be the separate homeland,i.e pakistan.
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Evolution of the Muslim Society

Evolution of the Muslim society started as soon as Muslim invaders stepped on the soil of Hind as not all of them went back along with their masters. Initially the influence of Muslims where limited to mostly western part of Hind, i.e. today's Pakistan specially upper Sind & mainstream Punjab. The later ones who attacked even had to face the Muslim contenders just like Nawasa Shah, the ruler of Multan who fought against its co re-religioust Muhammad Ghouri. This is the evidence that Muslim society had then founds its roots in the soil of Hindustan. The society reached its water-mark in the reign of Mughals where the habits of Muslim Rulers were considered "Fashion & Symbol of Standard" at that time. It was the age when even the Hindus tried to learn Arabic, Persian and later Urdu. The devolution of Muslims started when they lost their zenith after Aurangzeb. So your answer should go in this context.

Muslim Nationalism

The Muslim nationalism was the result of this devolution that reminded Muslims of their distinct identity they had and that differed them from rest of the nations in Hindustan. Muslim Nationalism in Sub- continent is a term much more talked in context of Renaissance Muslims witnessed due to effort of Poets, Philosophers, Politicians and common Muslims in aftermath of 1857 war of Independence. The atrocities of the English and aloofness and hostility of Hindus was the reason behind. This feeling of nationalism was at its apex at the time of creation of Pakistan. Here your answer should pivot around these aspects.
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@faseeh:thanks...!
but i have a confusion over over your muslim society evolution content.i.e do we have to explain the role of saints i.e shah waliulla,ahmd sirhindi et al,as mano mentioned abv,in this context?or just political evolution is enough?
plz elucidate it.
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@faseeh:thanks...!
but i have a confusion over over your muslim society evolution content.i.e do we have to explain the role of saints i.e shah waliulla,ahmd sirhindi et al,as mano mentioned abv,in this context?or just political evolution is enough?
plz elucidate it.
see both of these questions are somehow related but not exactly same....
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aoa!
i want to ask seniors here that is there any genuine difffernce between the answers of the following 2 questions
1-evolution of muslim society in the sub continent.
2-establishment of muslim nationalism in sub continennt.
else both of the abv statemnts are two sides of the same coin?
actually iam confused over the answering content of both the above statements.kindly brief what are the content of both of the abv questions?
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@faseeh:thanks...!
but i have a confusion over over your muslim society evolution content.i.e do we have to explain the role of saints i.e shah waliulla,ahmd sirhindi et al,as mano mentioned abv,in this context?or just political evolution is enough?
plz elucidate it.
1-evolution of muslim society in the sub continent?

Now read it carefully;

Evolution of muslim society has been asked in general in subcontent...

religiously, socially, culturally, economically and politically.....
You will start with religous evolution as there was no islam in 712 before MBQ attacked Subcontinent but despite being minority, the influence of islam was so mighty that, muslims ruled over india about 1000 years.... they evolved with the religious efforts of saints like data ganj bakhsh, imam rabbani, sufi silsilas, shah wali ullah and other prominent figures .....
you will discuss the prominent muslim rulers of india and the cultural glory of mughals and architecture and then you will end up making an ideology of muslim's own sphere....



2-establishment of muslim nationalism in sub continennt?

It is quite common question you may go like that;

ideology of Islam, ideology of Pakistan and how it evolved, background will contain the separate identity seeds sowed by imam rabbani, then shah wali ullah gave the insights then sir syed who played a vital role in reviving muslim nationalism and in fact he was pioneer of 2 nation theory, his philosophy will be discussed and his struggle of education and political participation of aligarh movement that ultimately made ML stronger, iqbal, jinnah who actually made the Pakistan movement a pragmatic reality from a dream....
so you will go this way covering not only religious, social awakening and educational outlook and political identity but Muslim community as a separate nation in united India as well...


hope your ambiguity is resolved....
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aoa!
@faseeh:thanks...!
but i have a confusion over over your muslim society evolution content.i.e do we have to explain the role of saints i.e shah waliulla,ahmd sirhindi et al,as mano mentioned abv,in this context?or just political evolution is enough?
plz elucidate it.
What ever mano g and rishzzz has said is correct, i will not contradict to it... The earlier sufis that visited India had mission to spread Islam and strengthen the Islamic Society while the later ones like Shah waliulla, ahmed Sirhandi had a religio-poltical agenda.

I have prepared an outline, fell free to comment:

"Q. Evolution of muslim society in the sub continent

-General Introduction
-Why M.B Qasim invadid Hindustan.
-Why he left Hindustan.
-Comment on Lane pool's statement that it was just an episode (optional)
-The next Muslim invador comes after how many years.
-Who was working in their absence? Now start with sufis.
-Mainstream sufi's at that time, teachings & efforts.
-Result of their effort, inter-communal harmony, spread of Islam etc.
-From very start till Aurangzeb where Muslim started loosing their grip on Hindustan.
- Conclude.

Q- Establishment of Muslim nationalism in sub continent?

-Introduction, Define Nationalism.
-Overview dismal situation of Muslim Society after Aurangzeb rule.
-War of Independence 1857: causes, events, results.
-Role of leading personalities in shaping Muslim opinion and reviving their values. Political Leaders, Philosopher, Journalists & Ulema.
-The efforts converged and materialized in shape of Muslim League.
-Muslim Nationalism proved its ground in elections.
-Muslim Nationalism at its zenith and summarized in Lahore Resolution.
-Making of Pakistan.
-Conclude.

The only fine difference in the two question i would highlight again is the Objective of the Sufi and Ulema, earlier they were interested in preaching Islam. Later they had a religio-politcal agenda of transforming rotten Muslim Society. Align your answer to these line.

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Rabia, these indeed are two different topics. Faseeh Muhammed has highlighted enough points to justify these Terms.
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@ rishzz and faseeh: iam sincerely obliged to both of you for the candid explanation of my query..i have got what to write....!
@ faeeh: just one thing more..it means muslim nationalism started soon after the debacle of MUghal empire when imam rabbani et al infused the spirit of ''separateness from hindus(i.e muslim nationalism)''?...if so then it means i should begin my intro from the debacle of mughal empire in answering muslim nationalism,huh?

now,there is one thing which is quite different.i.e now days iam preparing notes of pak affairs.i gather material from 2-3 books and then compile my answer...while doing so i replicate the exact words from book.my query is,is it gives a bad impression?though when i will write in paper iam surely gonna use my own words but idea would be more or less similar of the book contents.

another issue is that,as i told u iam using 2-3 books,i too add quotes from the books i.e make the excerpts from books,which i feel worth, as quote writing them in bold.now the pressing point is how come i gona remember all the names of writers from whose book i extract the quotes(i.e excerpts)?if i dont mention the name of that specific writer then how come examiner would realise that these bold quotes are not my ''own-creativity/thinking'' but the ideas extracted from national n international authors writings?

Note: iam using muliple books from google ...so sometimes more than 2 books are used by me in some questions....!
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@ Rabia Butt, Thanks for your acknowledgement.

Some People even argue that Aurangzeb whose is considered a Staunch Orthodox Sunni Muslim has realized that these Hindus & Muslims can not live together with out having separate lands of their own, this can be counter checked by fact that he reimposed Jazya that was banned by his grand father and the Daccan Wars against Shia's that shacked Mughal Empire, that reinforce the idea that Aurangzeb had realized then treacherous nature of Non-Muslims in Mughal Courts, (but some of his actions are matter of debate when it comes to gauge the reaction of Rajputs in his court). But yes the Idea was reinforced in the events that followed the debacle of Mughals.

For use of Multiple books, i personally don't like use of more then one book. The issue that irks me is the time it consumes to shuffle the books. Yes if you are preparing notes specially for one subject, you can use multiple books. For quotation i would recommend you to reproduce the wordings of authors that are acclaimed and well known. One more thing that will apeal is to use to words of Hindus and English because opinion of Local Pakistani writers may be considered biased but that of Hindus and English will not be.

Write the exact wording whenever you can remember them with statement in inverted commas, write the context of the statement and don't use inverted commas when you don't remember exact wordings.
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