Establishment of Pakistan was an accident

[harisabrar]

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

[ali36]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

I strongly disagree with this notion.The concept of Pakistan goes back to Hindu Muslim differences of all codes of life,which has universal appealing.In 11th century Al-Beiruni in his book Kitab-ul-hind pointed out these differences.Similarly,sincerity of Hindus to muslim rulers excluding Akber and Jehanger puts a question mark.Similarly there were so many events during british colonial era which proves prejudice of hindus towards muslims due to cultural variations,ie,bengal partition,urdu hindi controversy of banaras,congress ministries and unilateral call of gandhi to end khilafat movement without consulting johar brothers.So it was a very old concept having its genesis in the way muslims and hindus live,one worships cow other eats it,etc.Although name Pakistan is as old as 1933 but concept of Pakistan is centuries old as pointed by Mohammad Ali Jinnah that Pakistan was made when first Indian became muslim.
My suggestion to you is to study alot or opt some other optional and donot read handbooks please,also try to go through original sources if possible.Thanks

[harisabrar]

Sir Thanks for your kind instructions. I want to make it clear that here I am not opposing or supporting the idea of Pakistan and my views are personal and based on facts. And I am not talking about the Two Nation Theory which indeed existed a long time ago. There is no two opinions on two nation theory despite of two theories. Our problem is that we always study history with the eyes of historians. We should examine the history as we were present there. You can say this accident a miracle because there was no way of this happening. But some undefined factors led towards the accomplishment of Pakistan.

[ali36]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

Sir Thanks for your kind instructions. I want to make it clear that here I am not opposing or supporting the idea of Pakistan and my views are personal and based on facts. And I am not talking about the Two Nation Theory which indeed existed a long time ago. There is no two opinions on two nation theory despite of two theories. Our problem is that we always study history with the eyes of historians. We should examine the history as we were present there. You can say this accident a miracle because there was no way of this happening. But some undefined factors led towards the accomplishment of Pakistan.

I thought you were css aspirant so thats why I talked academically.The fact is you are talking generally and i gave you an academic answer to satisfy your need of css which you donot have.so no offence please.thanks.

[Abdul Hadi]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

It was not an accident but AIML was forced to change its manifesto with situation prevailing in subcontinent. Sir Syed's final conclusion was in favor of two nations. Later on Iqbal was also forced to change his idea about unified India and Jinnah too was forced in the same manner. You must change your canvass of analysis and study more to get rightful conclusions. leave the history of congress you must go through the roots of Hindu extremism in India and anti-muslim propaganda by Hindus in that period of time. And you must also go through the book of Jaswant Singh about partition.


"Threat to ones culture is the only way forward to NATIONALISM"
And World War I and Turkey matter invoked Muslim Nationalism against Britishers and later on Muslim population also tasted the flavor of United India under congress in 1937 which ignited the Muslim Nationalism and went directly in to the benefit of AIML.

[MaShWaNeE]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

This is a fact. And just keep it for the sake of General knowledge. As far css is concerned, then forget about these facts and adapt the view which other members are suggesting.

[Riaz Solangi]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

dear ...! the history of Pakistan is unique history in the making of a nation... its uniqueness is full of Muslim's sacrifices and their contributions. they got Pakistan after long hardworking and struggling and not accidentally. as far as i grasped the history of pak its very worthy victory of Pakistan.

a- Establishment of Pakistan was not an accident but the product of adroit efforts:
Pakistan came into being with not unexpectedly or accidentally . it existed because of exhausted struggles of Muslim leaders. Their first Effort was the making of the MUSLIM LEAGUE. This credit Pakistan making only attribute to the Muslim league . before its inception many other Muslim political parties were established but could not get country level motivation e.g Muhammadan political association(U.P), Mohammedan association of eastern Bengal , Punjab Muslim league and Political Organization . The inception of Muslim league was the first strong political step to wards the securing of political rights of Muslims of sub-continent . could it was possible the creation Pakistan if Muslim league not be established??? it implies the struggle to wards the making of Pakistan. the Muslim league was a platform where all efforts of Muslims were become effective .

b- idea of Pakistan conceived by Muslim league in 1933 , before this notion what was the object of Muslim league?????


it is axiom that idea of Pakistan was born in 1933 but the back ground of this idea was already made and it was the product of previous efforts of Muslim leaders . Pakistan was the name and target of the Muslim struggles.. before this notion they were fighting for the political , socioeconomic, religious rights of Muslims. by this idea they molded their aims and objectives to wards the creation of Pakistan

c- popularity of Muslim league.

the popularity of Muslim league can be gauged from the Lucknow pact when it got the perception to be an other political party that was of Muslim beside the congress in the subcontinent. it was right Muslim league lost its popularity at the end of khilafat movement . it was rebuilt by the great Quaid and gave soul to its body...
Muslim league resigned the ministries not the congress . At then they celebrated DAY OF DELIVERANCE . It was clear that without support of Muslim league the congress could not lead the country alone . it exhibited that the popularity of Muslim league gained not because of congress but because of this step and by slogans of Pakistan they succeeded vehemently in 1945-46 elections


d- What was the 3rd June plane?


3rd June plane was declaration of the transformation of powers to the indian leaders . and both congress and league endorsed it

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As for the Qauid, he was ,at every instance , intended for creation the Pakistan..he never demurred the idea of making Pakistan. The intellectuals and great politicians remarked that the Creation of Pakistan became possible because of only Quaid.... At many occasions British as well as Congress asked the Quaid to compromise with them individually ... he never did it and that's why they called upon him the intransigent and the obstinate.

the world war ii was not the major cause of leaving the subcontinent by the British. they tried their level best to restore the rule on subcontinent through cripps mission plane , Cabinet plan. and even lord Mountbatten he tried so much for remaining of British raj in sub-continent . this was because of Quaid we got freedom not only from British but from Indians ram raj also.

Originally Posted by MaShWaNeE

This is a fact. And just keep it for the sake of General knowledge. As far css is concerned, then forget about these facts and adapt the view which other members are suggesting.

i cant grasp this that we forget the facts and figures and adapt the general suggestions .?????

[Mushtaq Ahmed]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

Establishment of Pakistan was not an accident
Dear undoubtedly PAKISTAN was result of untiring efforts of Muslim leaders especially of Muslim League.
Role of Muslim league is undeniable if one goes through history.
Reforms of 1909, Lucknow pact 1916, reforms 1919, after 1920 Quaid e Azam's platform was only Muslim League (highly popular leader), 1930 Allabad Address etc. Ya muslim league was less successful in 1937 elections but it got overwhelming success in 1945-46 because of its popularity.
World War II reason
This was not the reason that British left the subcontinent, it was because the indian leaders, hindu and muslims didn't let them rule in the subcontinent more, eg: Swarag movement, khilafat movement and non cooperation movement made effect on British govt. Mutiny arose in indian royal navy which was analogous to Mutiny of 1857 in military. At this time British were unable to handle the situation with the support of army. Thus it is clear the creation of pakistan was the result of muslim efforts not accident and british left india not only because of loss in wwII but also their unsuccessful efforts lengthening the rule.

[Amigo]

Originally Posted by harisabrar

After reading the history of Indo-Pak one can conclude that the establishment of Pakistan was an accident. It seems that it was not Muslim League that worked hard for the establishment for Pk but those were the circumstances that led ML towards Pakistan. Idea of Pakistan was conceived in the manifesto of ML after a long time of its establishment. There was not any word like Pakistan till 1933. and ML was not a popular party till 1945. The result of 1937 shows the unpopularity of ML. And had the congress ministries not created and then resigned, ML would not have gained so much popularity. And the acceptance of 3 june Plan by M Ali Jinnah indicate that Jinnah was not ready to make Pakistan. But opposition of Congress of 3 June Plan changed the scenario. There are also so many facts that reveal that Establishment of Pakistan was an accident of 20th century. ww 2 was also major factor that forced British leave Subcontinent.

Indeed it was an accident. Rightly observed!!

[Mushtaq Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Amigo

Indeed it was an accident. Rightly observed!!

Claim should be proved with facts and figures.