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Let me disagree with you here..No one is evaluating any other..everyone is evaluating one’s own belief…And I believe that those with firm belief never get their beliefs shattered just because of someone’s opinion…And those with shallow beliefs must be realistic before the result comes out…What is the fear then?
This is a common behaviour observed in aspirants..They just don’t prepare themselves to face the consequences of their own mistakes and keep believing in miracles, just to get disappointed at the end..and I see many people claiming that papers are not properly checked etc…We all know that this is a competitive exam and we are not judged here for our own preparation, we are judged here for our preparation relative to others..and our best could be someone’s normal…
And Yes, Miracles happen for those who believe, but those who have firm beliefs..not shallow beliefs…and to get a firm belief it’s mandatory to analyse where we stand…For me, instead of just waiting for the result and bearing all that depression, anxiety and endless desperation, I feel that it is better to learn more about myself in this journey because I strongly believe in “Maktoob”..what is written, is inevitable and will happen at the written time..and I’d love to quote Paulo Coelho here
”Before a dream is realised, the soul of the world tests everything that was learned on the way”…Alchemist.
It couldn't have been worded well. Best Wishes for you and all the other aspirants.
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Let me disagree with you here..No one is evaluating any other..everyone is evaluating one’s own belief…And I believe that those with firm belief never get their beliefs shattered just because of someone’s opinion…And those with shallow beliefs must be realistic before the result comes out…What is the fear then?
This is a common behaviour observed in aspirants..They just don’t prepare themselves to face the consequences of their own mistakes and keep believing in miracles, just to get disappointed at the end..and I see many people claiming that papers are not properly checked etc…We all know that this is a competitive exam and we are not judged here for our own preparation, we are judged here for our preparation relative to others..and our best could be someone’s normal…
And Yes, Miracles happen for those who believe, but those who have firm beliefs..not shallow beliefs…and to get a firm belief it’s mandatory to analyse where we stand…For me, instead of just waiting for the result and bearing all that depression, anxiety and endless desperation, I feel that it is better to learn more about myself in this journey because I strongly believe in “Maktoob”..what is written, is inevitable and will happen at the written time..and I’d love to quote Paulo Coelho here
”Before a dream is realised, the soul of the world tests everything that was learned on the way”…Alchemist.

If a firm belief — or more precisely dogma — is not shattered by the opinions of other people, then what is the point in invoking other’s opinion here? You have to be receptive in order to change a firm yet wrong belief & being receptive is to surrender your firm beliefs before the opinions of people; something which requires humility!!

Yes, we must face the consequences, but how do you know the real consequences if everything here is in relative terms? Whats the point again? You can never be sure whether a particular approach is right or wrong since there are more than one ways to go about CSS exam; all the approaches are admittedly not mutually exclusive; something borne out by almost all successful candidates.

Therefore, it is better to wait for results before we begin introspection, retrospection & course correction; and more importantly to listen to others opinions with receptivity & humility.


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If a firm belief — or more precisely dogma — is not shattered by the opinions of other people, then what is the point in invoking other’s opinion here? You have to be receptive in order to change a firm yet wrong belief & being receptive is to surrender your firm beliefs before the opinions of people; something which requires humility!!

Yes, we must face the consequences, but how do you know the real consequences if everything here is in relative terms? Whats the point again? You can never be sure whether a particular approach is right or wrong since there are more than one ways to go about CSS exam; all the approaches are admittedly not mutually exclusive; something borne out by almost all successful candidates.

Therefore, it is better to wait for results before we begin introspection, retrospection & course correction; and more importantly to listen to others opinions with receptivity & humility.


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Dear Shehryar..with due respect, you have a very good skill of twisting the words which is very helpful in the exams though, but let me make it clear, all I said was supposed to be taken in a particular context…The essence of my discussion was “Maktoob” and not the “belief-theory”.
Coming to the points that you have made that are totally valid and I respect what you have said.
1.(The point of invoking opinion)…I only disagreed with the fact that just discussing about our attempt can shake down our belief…for me it doesn’t..for anyone else it could be…no offence…
2.As far as the firm belief is considered, this is what is in your mind while you handover your paper to the invigilator…Gut feeling we generally call it…that’s it…however, to get a better idea about ourselves, there is no wrong in discussing it with others..after all this is a relative exam…
3.And unintentionally but you seconded my point here..since everyone has a different approach and we see many people with different methods acing the exam, therefore, we better believe in what we have done instead of getting our beliefs shaken down just because of others’ opinions..
4.I read once, the right time for introspection is before the result, when you are uncertain…After the result comes out..there’s only result…
5.Now some people will show sanity by saying that everyone should stick to the point of result date…I don’t want to sound harsh but if the utility of the discussion is considered, nothing is more futile than this thread itself…some random person coming with a date claiming that he/she has a “source”, and all others start believing on it…and the cycle goes on…
6.Let me say this before some other person does
“Please stick to the thread and don’t share your own experiences and opinions because we visit this thread just to know anonymous dates and rumours which are more satisfying than some productive exchange of personal opinions”
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If a firm belief — or more precisely dogma — is not shattered by the opinions of other people, then what is the point in invoking other’s opinion here? You have to be receptive in order to change a firm yet wrong belief & being receptive is to surrender your firm beliefs before the opinions of people; something which requires humility!!

Yes, we must face the consequences, but how do you know the real consequences if everything here is in relative terms? Whats the point again? You can never be sure whether a particular approach is right or wrong since there are more than one ways to go about CSS exam; all the approaches are admittedly not mutually exclusive; something borne out by almost all successful candidates.

Therefore, it is better to wait for results before we begin introspection, retrospection & course correction; and more importantly to listen to others opinions with receptivity & humility.


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If one is sharing experience then whats wrong with it. I think thats why we wre here, to put forth our subjective views, to give consolations and to disseminate sincere suggestions. Waiting idly for result is not the sign of curious mind.
Secondly, we the bipedal curious specie know when other's idea is shallow or convincing, and when to amend our own. So, let share everyone's story.
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Dear Shehryar..with due respect, you have a very good skill of twisting the words which is very helpful in the exams though, but let me make it clear, all I said was supposed to be taken in a particular context…The essence of my discussion was “Maktoob” and not the “belief-theory”.
Coming to the points that you have made that are totally valid and I respect what you have said.
1.(The point of invoking opinion)…I only disagreed with the fact that just discussing about our attempt can shake down our belief…for me it doesn’t..for anyone else it could be…no offence…
2.As far as the firm belief is considered, this is what is in your mind while you handover your paper to the invigilator…Gut feeling we generally call it…that’s it…however, to get a better idea about ourselves, there is no wrong in discussing it with others..after all this is a relative exam…
3.And unintentionally but you seconded my point here..since everyone has a different approach and we see many people with different methods acing the exam, therefore, we better believe in what we have done instead of getting our beliefs shaken down just because of others’ opinions..
4.I read once, the right time for introspection is before the result, when you are uncertain…After the result comes out..there’s only result…
5.Now some people will show sanity by saying that everyone should stick to the point of result date…I don’t want to sound harsh but if the utility of the discussion is considered, nothing is more futile than this thread itself…some random person coming with a date claiming that he/she has a “source”, and all others start believing on it…and the cycle goes on…
6.Let me say this before some other person does
“Please stick to the thread and don’t share your own experiences and opinions because we visit this thread just to know anonymous dates and rumours which are more satisfying than some productive exchange of personal opinions”
Behan, you're taking it too personally. I expressed my view because I've seen people getting disturbed and stressed out because of someone else's comments on their attempted essay. I've also seen people skipping 10 papers because they thought they would fail in English and still they ended up passing both. You cannot discount unpredictability of css. I never shared my attempt after i am done with the exams . So, i was not saying for myself. Rest, you talked about preparation, belief and stuff. I have both passed and failed the essay. Neither the belief nor the preparation is lacking. I stand to every word I said. You write well and i wish you all the best. I've nothing but prayers for all of you.
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According to an AD FPSC, it'll be announced either on 29 or 30 November
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Behan, you're taking it too personally. I expressed my view because I've seen people getting disturbed and stressed out because of someone else's comments on their attempted essay. I've also seen people skipping 10 papers because they thought they would fail in English and still they ended up passing both. You cannot discount unpredictability of css. I never shared my attempt after i am done with the exams . So, i was not saying for myself. Rest, you talked about preparation, belief and stuff. I have both passed and failed the essay. Neither the belief nor the preparation is lacking. I stand to every word I said. You write well and i wish you all the best. I've nothing but prayers for all of you.
Easy Mudasser bhai…I don’t want to be a part of an “online argument” neither I’m enforcing my opinion…I just used my basic right of “freedom of speech” and also I’m very open to contrasting views…you are right that things are unpredictable in CSS when the Luck Factor is also in play…Also, the frustration and anxiety is real and no one can deny it…but those who can’t bear the criticism on their essay or anything have always an option to stay aside..no one is forcing anything..
I also apologise if any of my words has caused offence to anyone…and I pray that everyone of us gets the best..
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Well i agree now that discussion leads to anxiety xD. I was fine thinking of my chances but the discussion on my outline on this thread has suddenly made me think i have no chance of passing and now i am feeling down xD. I know thats not what Marcus Aerilus intended but thats just how us mortals react.
I know i was unable to do my best in the essay exam. I have given multiple mocks prior to my essay exam and i never failed essay before (3 times and scored 40, 40 and 43) and those mocks had very low passing percentage. And yet still doubting myself now.
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Well i agree now that discussion leads to anxiety xD. I was fine thinking of my chances but the discussion on my outline on this thread has suddenly made me think i have no chance of passing and now i am feeling down xD. I know thats not what Marcus Aerilus intended but thats just how us mortals react.
I know i was unable to do my best in the essay exam. I have given multiple mocks prior to my essay exam and i never failed essay before (3 times and scored 40, 40 and 43) and those mocks had very low passing percentage. And yet still doubting myself now.
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Dear Shehryar..with due respect, you have a very good skill of twisting the words which is very helpful in the exams though, but let me make it clear, all I said was supposed to be taken in a particular context…The essence of my discussion was “Maktoob” and not the “belief-theory”.
Coming to the points that you have made that are totally valid and I respect what you have said.
1.(The point of invoking opinion)…I only disagreed with the fact that just discussing about our attempt can shake down our belief…for me it doesn’t..for anyone else it could be…no offence…
2.As far as the firm belief is considered, this is what is in your mind while you handover your paper to the invigilator…Gut feeling we generally call it…that’s it…however, to get a better idea about ourselves, there is no wrong in discussing it with others..after all this is a relative exam…
3.And unintentionally but you seconded my point here..since everyone has a different approach and we see many people with different methods acing the exam, therefore, we better believe in what we have done instead of getting our beliefs shaken down just because of others’ opinions..
4.I read once, the right time for introspection is before the result, when you are uncertain…After the result comes out..there’s only result…
5.Now some people will show sanity by saying that everyone should stick to the point of result date…I don’t want to sound harsh but if the utility of the discussion is considered, nothing is more futile than this thread itself…some random person coming with a date claiming that he/she has a “source”, and all others start believing on it…and the cycle goes on…
6.Let me say this before some other person does
“Please stick to the thread and don’t share your own experiences and opinions because we visit this thread just to know anonymous dates and rumours which are more satisfying than some productive exchange of personal opinions”

Dear, ive no intentions of twisting your words just to prove my point; I might not have expressed myself articulately.

Your points are mostly valid, but ive a different perspective of looking at things which doesn’t necessarily mean you are wrong. I respect your opinions.

I personally have no problem discussing the exam, enduring criticism or hearing dissenting opinions; in fact this is something which I encourage — if done in the right manner — for the sake of learning. But then every person is unique; here might be some aspirants who would plunge into depression/anxiety — given their circumstances — if they hear something different from what they have done in the exam ( a few just reported the same), which I do not want.

Rest, I wish you all the best. Ive gone through your essay outline; it appeared good to me; you have inserted good facts in the beginning which will surely grab the attention of the examiner; the body paragraphs too sound relevant. Overall, good prospects of passing the essay 👏🏻

I pray that you crack it this time Zunaira. Not here to win an argument; no offense intended whatsoever.


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