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Police Order 2002 has also been revoked and the Police Act 1861 stands restored in Indus. Is it a good or bad omen for PSP..?
Bad..they are answerable to DC again..
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I welcome this decision and pray that it may remain intact.i was always in favour of this system because even though civil servants are also corrupt but they are competent so better politicians and system id better than local govt as that system cannot be run smoothly in our country.

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I welcome this decision and pray that it may remain intact.i was always in favour of this system because even though civil servants are also corrupt but they are competent so better politicians and system id better than local govt as that system cannot be run smoothly in our country.

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Well I doubt that...
CSS being a federal service,any officer can be posted anywhere..
And its not like officers from other provinces haven't been posted in Sindh..
They have in the past,and I am sure officers from other provinces are still working there..
and in any case,first posting of Punjabi officers is going to be out of Punjab..i.e in Sindh,Baluchistan,KPK or G.B Fata...DMGians from 37th common are about to be posted in Sindh...
Hamza is absolutely right....as a matter of fact; the officers from PSP and DMG have to serve ATLEAST first three years of their service out of their home provinces....so in majority of the cases officers from punjab get posting in sindh or KPK but DMG officers prefer Sindh over KPK for the last so many years.

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Police Order 2002 has also been revoked and the Police Act 1861 stands restored in Indus. Is it a good or bad omen for PSP..?
well....different people take it differently...but most of the seniors from PSP and DMG whom i came across with are of the opinion that this is a good change for PSP as well....since both PSP and DMG people are commoners so they cooperate with each other and their working relationship moves on more smoothly....PSP people never enjoyed working with Judiciary in particular; infact since the inception of Police Order, 2002 there have always been kind of a tussle between PSP and judiciary....so as far as i think its a good change for not only DMG and PSP but also for the general public....bakki lets see....

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Bad..they are answerable to DC again..
Nah! i don't think so. Khair.. to each his own

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well....different people take it differently...but most of the seniors from PSP and DMG whom i came across with are of the opinion that this is a good change for PSP as well....since both PSP and DMG people are commoners so they cooperate with each other and their working relationship moves on more smoothly....PSP people never enjoyed working with Judiciary in particular; infact since the inception of Police Order, 2002 there have always been kind of a tussle between PSP and judiciary....so as far as i think its a good change for not only DMG and PSP but also for the general public....bakki lets see....
I second you. PSPs were/are frequently summoned to the high courts, which is a kind of unyielding non-ephemeral harassment. Now that the protective shield of the DCs has been restored and baby Nazim is gone, PSPs can look forward to have smooth sailing. Secondly, restoration of Police Act 1861 practically means that the police has once again become the real coercive arm of the civil bureaucracy, for all purposes
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It is good for both the PSP and the DMG officers. Infact, this will increase the prestige of CSS exam as whole.

Now-a-days, PCS officers are occupying the best posts in Sindh whereas DMGs are just marginalized. Just look at the number oF DCOs, 21 of 26 DCOs in Sindh are PCS officers. Also, the DCOs (now Commissioners) of Karachi and Hyderabad are junior PCS officers of grade 19. Though conditions in Punjab are somewhat better, PMS officers are also slowly encroaching upon the seats of DMGs.
We hope that Punjab government will follow suit and the condition will improve for CSPs.
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i am surprised that well educated people who have cleared their civil service exam, welcome a move that reverts the position of police back to pre-2002 situation. now being a part of this community i would also want prestige of civil servants and this service to be increased but not at the cost of a department as important as police. This Order was supposed to be a progressive one that replaced a colonial act
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This issue of posting PCS Officers has been raised by Establishment Division with Sindh Govt. and SAMA TV has been highlighting it since last evening in their News reports. As per the report Chief Secretary was intimated by the concerned department that 200 DMG Officers are waiting in line to be appointed in different provinces and as per News caster, Chief Sec replied that current postings in Sindh are on temporary & on emergency basis to run the system and soon after receiving the list of DMG officers available for the positions they will be filled by DMGs as per the share.

Commissionerate system belongs to trained DMGs and after few months DMGs will be on key positions. PCS officers of higher grades will be seen on DC posts. PCS officers are posted on the post of AC after couple of years training and soon they are moved in grade 18, instead of making them DC, they are sent to secretariats and appointed as Deputy secretary. DMG Commissioners will only prefer DMG as DCs and ACs. It is the matter of their availability, once the officers start coming in flow to Sindh, DMGs will be every where.

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It is good for both the PSP and the DMG officers. Infact, this will increase the prestige of CSS exam as whole.

Now-a-days, PCS officers are occupying the best posts in Sindh whereas DMGs are just marginalized. Just look at the number oF DCOs, 21 of 26 DCOs in Sindh are PCS officers. Also, the DCOs (now Commissioners) of Karachi and Hyderabad are junior PCS officers of grade 19. Though conditions in Punjab are somewhat better, PMS officers are also slowly encroaching upon the seats of DMGs.
We hope that Punjab government will follow suit and the condition will improve for CSPs.
The ratio which you have mentioned about DCOs in Sindh is mainly because DMG officers are least interested in getting postings in Sindh as they move to 18-19 grades...even if they do; they prefer being posted as Additional Secretary or Secretary in Provincial Government...In most of the cases they move to either Punjab or Islamabad.
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