Originally Posted by Nate

My brother first of all thanks alot for your utmost interest in my case. As nowadays its hard to find and meet your kind of people who are eager to hear good news otherwise saray sadist hei bhete huhe hein. Anyways back to the topic i met with the director he gave me a very very very positive response and asked me to file an appeal which i did today. Chairman and the rest of the panel will call me and redress my grievance. Director even said to me that its one hell of a strange case with benefit of doubt in ur court. Fingers Crosses Rest Allah meri bhetri ke leye karay Ameen.

Originally Posted by Nate

Brother i have revised the rules of css 2012 and css 2013. Only this differnce was there. As follows.

According to RULES FOR COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION CSS-2013
Page 3 Article 11 (i)
The Commission with prior approval of the Government may fix qualifying marks in any or all of the subjects of the examination but a candidate who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of optional subjects, 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks in Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.

Previous Rule:

(who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of the optional subjects, OR 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks at the Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.)

Thus jus by removing the OR it does not change the whole meaning. Trust me u can read the rule again n again and you wont be find any ans to it.

Originally Posted by izhar ahmad

Nate sir...can you please let me know the way how to go for an appeal? as i do have the same case as yours...i have got 622 marks excluding the 17 marks in journalism,the only optional subject on the basis of which i had been declared fail...

Originally Posted by R3b3l

in the light of your and others interpretation regarding the previous rule , one way of looking at that magical 'OR' is that if a candidate secures 40% marks in every compulsory and 33% in each optional subject, he would be considered a pass candidate even if he fails to secure 600 marks or 50% in total. However in practice a student is declared fail even he is passed in all subjects but fails to touch the benchmark of 600. what do you say on this?

Originally Posted by shary16

In the previous rule

the 33% in any OR 50% aggregate saved...

now the OR thing is gone..

so it has to be all three now....in 2013.

Its very unfortunate dear!

Originally Posted by mahmood

I disagree with all this. I dont think they can change anything in the rule without the prior approval of the Federal Government.
so if they were to change the rule, then they should have taken an approval from the government before conducting the exam. FPSC is not the Federal Government. Federal Government's competent authority has to be, in my view, the Prime Minister. so unless the file has been moved and it has made it all the way to the PM ( or someone exercising this power), they could not change the rule. remember, the approval can not be verbal. it has to written. given it is a cumbersome process, i doubt that such a thing has happened. why would they labor so much to change this small rule. I think not inserting the OR was a typo. FPSC has made a mistake in its result declaration.

Originally Posted by bear

let us first revise and compare the rules for ce 2012 and ce 2013
CE-2012



ce-2013





now let us see what factors are involved to pass the whole exam.


there are four factors :
A . compulsory subject
B. optional subject
C. aggregate
D. viva voce


to pass the written and get interview call the conditions A,B,C are to be checked only. viva is a later process. so we ignore that on this stage .

let us make Truth Tables for the ce-2012 and ce-2013 and see what should be the criterion to pass as per stated rules .

for ce 2012 the condition is
"atleast 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of
the optional subjects, or 50% marks in the Aggregate"

so the Boolean function should be " A and B or C"




for ce 2013 the condition is
"at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of
the optional subjects, 50% marks in the Aggregate "

so the Boolean function should be " A and B and C"





you can see that fpsc violated its own rules in 2012 and in previous years ( according to what they said on their rules section.)
for example ,they were wrong at failing the candidates who passed 50% aggregate no matter what status they had in compulsory .also they were wrong at failing those who passed all compulsory but got less than 50 % aggregate . ( you may seek help on Boolean functions from a philosopher or mathematician , because if "words " make "rules " then this above mentioned hypothesis will help you a lot in case you file a lawsuit or have a personal hearing )


ce-2013 rule according to Boolean function is very simple
its states that to get pass all three conditions need to get satisfied ,otherwise you shall be declared fail ( this is what happened to you . that this time they strictly followed the rule and went against the traditional customary law)


the long and short of this story is that their rules prior to 2013 were ambiguous . so you and the candidates of ce-2013 must get the benefit of doubt .


PS. to learn about truth tables ( which actually are very easy) see wikipedia and http://turner.faculty.swau.edu/mathe...library/truth/