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now my final attempt is remain but i decided to quit this exam.I am mechanical engineer and no need of this stupid service which have no regard for candidate.How they check my paper.I am graduate from better university and they again failed me.There is enough opportunities avaliable in my field and i already have call from many industries but i decided to continue with this exam as i already waste my time on this exam.My parent wants me to give this exam.I already know criteria of fpsc as they passed less candidate.Mechanical engineer have good salariess and there is no of this exam.It is guide from me for any one who give css exam.Don't waste your time on this exam and there is no need of frustration after this exam.It is problem with fpsc so don't give blame to themselve after fail.Csp created in 1950 and has same norms used by british.Court,police,engish language all is inherited from british.This colonial mentality never ended and don't belittle yourself after this exam.There are people who still called fpsc as superb institution.It meant that they didn't still taught lesson.When they give three attempt after that they automatically known reality of fpsc.
You are right dear ...those who worked very hard got very low scores .it means here hard work does not matter and very unexpected marks
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now my final attempt is remain but i decided to quit this exam.I am mechanical engineer and no need of this stupid service which have no regard for candidate.How they check my paper.I am graduate from better university and they again failed me.There is enough opportunities avaliable in my field and i already have call from many industries but i decided to continue with this exam as i already waste my time on this exam.My parent wants me to give this exam.I already know criteria of fpsc as they passed less candidate.Mechanical engineer have good salariess and there is no of this exam.It is guide from me for any one who give css exam.Don't waste your time on this exam and there is no need of frustration after this exam.It is problem with fpsc so don't give blame to themselve after fail.Csp created in 1950 and has same norms used by british.Court,police,engish language all is inherited from british.This colonial mentality never ended and don't belittle yourself after this exam.There are people who still called fpsc as superb institution.It meant that they didn't still taught lesson.When they give three attempt after that they automatically known reality of fpsc.
bhai jan apki angrezi say pata chl raha hai k apnay ketni struggle ki hai css k lye .
Moreover ,I disagree with u that the major cause of every aspirant's failure is FPSC .
Yes i agree that css is uncertain to sommmme extent but one should not blame others (FPSC in this case ) for one's failures .FPSC is not rigged .We ,the aspirants ,need to work hard again and again (if one wants to achieve what he/she wants ) .luck favors the one who is prepared in a best possible way ..U dnt have the right to discourage other students unless u can afford the luxury to to so..
.MAy allah bless u with some optimism and success in your career .

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akkk, You need to improve your English first and then you would get the legitimate right to criticize FPSC.

Yes, CSS is a battle of luck. Essay/Precis mei luck and then Optionals ke scoring trend mei luck hai. This is quite unfortunate!

People with elite preparation got 60s, 70s in IR this time around while ppl with horrible preparation ended up getting 70s in Gender studies. This is unacceptable. The mean across all optional subjects should be the same. This whimsical scoring trend needs to be eliminated as well.
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@akkk I don't intend to discourage you but your English is not up to the level of CSS exam. That is the only reason for your failure.

FPSC isn't a perfect institution(I don't even believe they are free of corruption, there is hardly any institute in Pakistan that functions properly). We can't expect them to be fair just like many other things in this country.

I have been on the forum for a few years now and its so common to see people talk of trends and luck factor. When someone gets good marks everyone starts asking which books they used and what their strategy was. This is useful to an extent but I feel many overdo it.

Also, forming opinions like 'examiner wanted a specific point of view' is rubbish. Or too many people opted for it so they decided to slaughter them. I agree that there is a lack of uniformity in awarding of marks(compare this to OLevels where examiners point out what was expected for each and every mark in the exam). But there is no reason why a subject should be targeted by FPSC. So what if people get more marks? They have to interview more people? That is hardly an issue for them.

Also worth noting is that the examiners themselves in their comments repeatedly point out the flaws in Pakistan's education system. You are expected to produce a quality in CSS that you are not trained for. Many fail in that because they never knew the right approach.

Another request that I have to my fellow aspirants is not to read too much into other people's marks. I know IR1 produced unbelievably low scores. But how do we know that? How many people have posted their scores here? 20? 30? 50? Is that a big enough sample to assume that the examiner was crazy? No, its not. Don't forget that we only know the marks of the failed candidates. Stop making assumptions just by looking at a few DMCs.

I would request you all to leave the trend and luck crap. Trend is nonsense and luck, though it does exist, exists in all fields of life. Just do your prep, believe in your strengths instead of other's and give your exam.
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i know that how to improve english and sentence structure so don't give me lecture of english.If any one want to improve his english.They read dawn news and any of other article and write its in own word.It automatically improve his english.If it is only exam of english then i didn't considered this exam if you people want to debate with me only on engish not on knowing any thing about their respective field.It is better for you people to leave study.I didn't discourage anyone to leave css.If anyone attempt css.They must given this exam.But their checking policy is not transparent.It is foreign language so i didn't give importance to language.Knowledge will make you different from other people not english.
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I don't intend to take pleasure in your failures, and my post was in general, not directed at you(except the first line). You are again taking the wrong approach to CSS.

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It is foreign language so i didn't give importance to language.Knowledge will make you different from other people not english.
This is wrong when it comes to CSS. English is the basic tool that you need for this exam. Knowledge is good, but it hardly means anything if you can't express it properly. No one can look into your brain, it is upto you to show people what knowledge you have and you do that through language. You can do that through Urdu as well but that is not going to take you far in CSS.

I am also an engineer like you and its a great field. Wish you best of luck in your life.
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Novemberksyie Scoring trend is not nonsense. It's a fact. We can't turn a blind eye to it.

And all these people who are scoring 70s and 80s in Gender Studies, do you think they wrote quality stuff? No, they were just lucky this time around. People who had marks in 80s in Environmental Science even failed to touch the 50 mark. Not because they didn't write quality answers or they wrote crammed stuff. This is all because of scoring trend. This is a horrible thing that needs to end.

Also, the luck element cannot be swept under the rug in Essay and Precis. There is a reason why 5000 people pass precis in a year and the very next year, only 742 manage to pass it.
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Scoring trend may be debatable. But luck in precis? How?

The first two questions are purely based on your precis and comprehension skill. You will see an unseen passage and will be asked to summarize it or answer questions based on it. Those answers require skill and nothing else.

The only parts I can imagine where luck plays a role are analogy and word pairs. If you don't know the meaning of the word, its hard to answer(though by no means impossible). Still, you have to attempt 5 out of the 8 parts. This is just how exams are. You won't see everything you have prepared(though we are used to it because our exams contain questions from the books we use). There are people taking 20-25 marks in precis paper and others saying this is all down to luck. Its not.
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Novemberksyie Scoring trend is not nonsense. It's a fact. We can't turn a blind eye to it.
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And all these people who are scoring 70s and 80s in Gender Studies, do you think they wrote quality stuff? No, they were just lucky this time around.
I have seen that myself and of course its hard to turn a blind eye to it. But my point is, it is not something that is in our control. So wasting time over it is useless. If you can give me a proven way of knowing which subjects will score high the next time around, I will be happy to follow the scoring trend. But the truth is IR getting slaughtered is no guarantee that it will be scoring the next time and GS giving great scores doesn't guarantee a slaughtering the next time. And that is my point. it may well exist, but using it without any proven knowledge is like playing Bingo and then blaming the FPSC for not calling the number you needed for the bingo.
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