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Question Level Playing Field in CSS???

After going through few markskeets of css 2009,i have come up with some food for thought for everyone here.

last year Indo Pak history was a low scoring subject, even guys like Maneka who I think is the topper in history from GCU (COrrect me if I am wrong) got 114 marks and generally nobody got too high a score and the topper of 37th common scored 140 in history i guess. well justfast fwd a year and you get really high scores in indo Pak history,now my point is that isnt it injustice with the guys/gals who did not opt history this year for the fear of "whimsical" marking.

Similarly journalism has seen a similar trend but in opposite direction.2oo8 was high scoring ,this year its low scoring.

English Liteature is another example simialr to journalism.


MY point is that "with fluctuating markign trends in css exams,the criterion for success starts dependign alot on luck than hardwork and knowledge becasue now if a candidate by chance has opted "favourable" subjects then he/she has bright chances of getting through and if unfortuantely the candidate has chosen the "unfavourable" subjects.he/she is doomed.

This inconsistancy in marking trends makes the exam by luck and by chance instead of being a measure of ability.

i am not at all saying that candidate who passed this year did not deserve their success ,I am just trying to point out that alot might have missed out only because of shear bad luck.


The marking system needs to be consistent and the trick or treat factor should be eliminated.


All kinds of criticism and thoughts are welcome

Go ahead say anything and I wont mind at all
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After going through few markskeets of css 2009,i have come up with some food for thought for everyone here.

last year Indo Pak history was a low scoring subject, even guys like Maneka who I think is the topper in history from GCU (COrrect me if I am wrong) got 114 marks.
Quite right Shah Sahib [ Hoping to see you in Orange Hair soon ]

My class fellows who scored in 70's and 80's in History oF India and Pakistan ( css 2008 ) have scored in the region of 125-135 this year. And Indo Pak was never my strength i just choose it to save some time.

But i guess this is what we call Luck.

*Those who are getting good marks or would get good marks totally deserve them, we'r just sharing our views on this phenomenon*.

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Aslam o Alaikum,

Brothers Shah & Maneka Its simple demand and supply Rule that determines which subject is going to be high scoring & which is going to be low scoring in any particular year....

Given the type of trend (looking for short cuts to success) that exists in CSS, there is a strong tendency amongst the aspirants to choose so called High scoring subjects and no wonder you find most of them adoting those subjects which score high on that particular year.... Now when, say 80 out of 100, adopt a particular subject like sociology or Journalism, the competition automatically gets tough on that year and then presumably the commission discourage that trend in order to maintain level playing field (with of course human intervention)...

This rules doesn't apply on technical subjects like Geography because even though every one knows that it is scoring but even then only a few are able to opt this subject because of its technicality and requirement of typical aptitude.....

The bottom line: AT the end of the day you only have to contend with the bird in hand and not the one that is in the bush
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Well i dont agree with you dear azmat that all this low scoring and high scoring is a demand and supply rule. If it is so then no one will score in compulsory because there the supply is 100 percent.

Rather in my opinion this trend is attached with the person who check these papers. If he/she is an open handed person then u will observe score or viceversa.

Still i was a bit confused about my favt subjects pol.science and cont.law due to this low scoring trend but now after observing some DMS i will not change these,
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Aslam o Alaikum,

Brother Islah, this rule is valid mostly for optionals because optionals mostly make a difference... As far as compulsory are concerned you will rarely find anyone who takes a lead from the average lot......

But this is my analysis... not compulsory for you to agree to it...


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bother r your notes for geography has been published?
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@ brother sparkofighter

I am pleased to apprise you that the notes are published under "Exam Cram" title by Jehangir book Depot with the title "To the Point Geography"

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Rather in my opinion this trend is attached with the person who check these papers. If he/she is an open handed person then u will observe score or viceversa.
I agree with this idea. Actually whenever I think over this myth of scoring subjects or scoring trends, I never find enuf arguments to convince myself that the commission makes certain policies to decide scoring trends of subjects in different years.
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@ all fellows,
The failed candidates results show the bizzare marking as well. Urdu is extremely low scoring. Islamic History is blindly scoring . my friend Abdur Rahim even didn't buy a book for Islamic history n his score is 137.those who have scored 93+95, I wonder, what's so special with their paper n prep which was missing in case of Urdu opters.


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COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION 2009
MARKS SHEET
:: Roll Number : 3237
:: Candidate Name : ABDUL RAHIM
COMPULSORY SUBJECTS
Subject Total Marks Passing Marks Marks Obtained Total Marks Accepted
Essay 100 40 32 32 00
English 100 40 34 34 00
General Knowledge 300 120
GK1 (Everyday Science) 100 40
GK2 (Current Affairs) 100 34
GK3 (Pakistan Affairs) 100 30 104 00
Islamiat 100 40 59 59 59

OPTIONAL SUBJECTS
Subject Total Marks Passing Marks Marks Obtained Total Marks Accepted
Forestry 100 33 46 46 46
Geography 200 66
Paper A 43
Paper B 50 93 93
Islamic History and Culture 200 66
Paper A 65
Paper B 72 137 137
Journalism 100 33 45 45 45

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Total Marks FAILED IN COMPULSORY 380
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Shah Sahb,u r right that sometime low scoring subjects jump to be high scoring and next time high scoring turns to be low scoring.
My marks in CSS 2009 are:
Roll Number 1059
Essay 41
Precis 50
GK total 89
IR 24
Islamic History and Culture 134
Journalism 35
Sindhi 70
Sociology 51
Total Marks 439.
Failed in Compulsory.

Now Iam unable to get that how I failed in IR. Plz help anyone if someone has relavency to IR Subject.
Aslaam O Alekum,
I attempted CSS 209,and failed in International Relations paper. I attempted the questions well but I was awarded just 24 marks. My fifteen MCQs were correct,it means I secured just 9 marks out of 80 in the written portion. I am unable to ascertain the cause that why I failed in IR.

The questions that I attempted and how I attempted are comprehensively put here. Please go through them in detail, point out the errors, guide me where necessary, and suggest me that what I should do now.

INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, CSS 2009.
Q.3. Discuss the importance of International Relations as a field of Study?

Answer: I.R is the study of relations between the sovereign states of the world. Before World War I and II there was little importance of IR for the most of states were under the subjugation of powerful countries like the UK, Germany, Rusia,etc. But the significance of IR greatly increased after World War II, when the world changed to bipolar from the multipolar, and this way the number of sovereign states swelled greatly.

When more sovereign states created, the foreign plocicy, diplomacy and national interest like matters sprung among these states and IR played a pivotal role in providing a comprehensive detail and study of these terms.

IR has its matter, methodology and theories thus it is a very important field of study. This has stared playing a vital role in world politics also. This is because of the study of IR that whatever changes occur in the world politics, IR experts and analysts are invited to analyse the situation and provide its effects and solution.

There is no denying of the fact that IR has great value owing to have its characteristic of its being as a field of study.


Q.6.What factors were responsible for Creation of the Warsaw and Nato Pacts.Can Nato’s continuing existence be justified.

Answer: After World War II,the world super power order changed. Before this war the world was a multipolar was many superpowers, but with the end of World War II,the world became bipolar, only two super powers existed and these were USSR and the USA. The power struggle increased between both. Both countries started taking each other as her enemy.

The power struggle and fear were the causes that resulted in the creation of Warsaw Pact and Nato Pact. Warsaw pact was established by the USSR in response to the creation of NATO by the US. Warsaw Pact was established in 1955, as a reaction to NATO that was established in 1949. Establishment of NATO was to counterbalance the power of USSR that had blocked the passage of the US supply of water and food to an occupied part of the US.

NATO was established to counterweight the power of USSR, but USSR disintegrated in 1991. There has now remained no USSR and Warsaw Pact, thus the existence of NATO is out of understanding and appears to be as a threat to the sovereign states. NATO has been acting as a puppet in the hands of the US and there are fears that it may be directed to any country and violate the sovereign status of the sovereign conunties. NATO is viewd as a threat by the analysts to the sovereigny of week states of Asia.

For the sake of balance of power in Asia and harmonius relations between powerful and weak countries, NATO must dismantle its functions and the US should terminate its unjustified existence.

Question: 7.Critically Evaluate American Foreign Policy towards Pakistan.

Answer. America has always played a fair weather friend role with Pakistan. Pakistan has always showed sincerity with the US. Now the relations of both countries are some how friendly but are not so good.

The history represents that the US foreign policy was never in favour of Pakistan. Her forign policy every time changed all of sudden ant took a u-turn. In 1965 and 1971 wars of Pakistan with India,the US had distanced herself away from Pakistan. When the USSR left Afghanistan,the interests of the US ended with Pakistan, thus the US departed Pakistan. When India did its nuclear missile test there were no sanctions on it, but when Pakistan did so in 1998,there were economic sanctions on Pakistan.

The US Foreign Policy with Pakistan has always been attached on the basis of the US interests in South Asia. The US never benefited Pakistan, despite the fact the Pakistan always proved herself a true ally of the US. Despite all these grievances of Pakistan, there has been good relations between both countries time by time, although for short term.

Questiion:8. What is Nuclear Proliferation? How for the United States of America is justified in making a nuclear deal with India.

Answer: Nuclear Proliferation means increase and transfer of the nuclear technology. There is a ban at international level in Nuclear Proliferation.

The relations between Pakistan and India have remained strained since the independence of both. There has been fought three Indo-Pak wars so far. The relations between India and Pakistan are still tense. The US nuclear deal would certainly cause imbalance of power between Pakistan and India. And this deal will also have a great impact on already vulnerable security apparatus of South Asia.

There is also ban on transfer of any nuclear technology and this deal also falls within the ambit of violation of United Nations rules that do not allow any kind of nuclear proliferation. And India and Pakistan are already nuclear powers and increase in power of any country may lead atomic war between both. This nuclear war would not be confined to South Asia only, but it will engulf the entire world.

Keeping in view the International rules of the world and tense and vulnerable relations of India and Pakistan, it is clear that such a unilateral nuclear deal is unjustified. The US needs to review its policy and act sensibly. If such a deal is strictly needed, then this sort of deal must me made with Pakistan for the balance and stability of Asia.
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