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im also one of the victim of examiner's wrath in islamic histry, i secured 71 in both papers bt i had no plans to giv it up, i l be doing it again. i ve confidence tht i could get good marks. dnt wory never give up once u did u r left
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my paper1 was soo good that i was expecting above 75 marx, however I was anxious that i can nt score gud in paper2, but i got almost same marx in both the papers. this is zulmmm on the part of fpsc.
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my paper1 was soo good that i was expecting above 75 marx, however I was anxious that i can nt score gud in paper2, but i got almost same marx in both the papers. this is zulmmm on the part of fpsc.
yea same is the case with me; my both papers were excellent but the examiner didnt award me marks accordingly. and ths ws my first attemp bt im nt discouraged. as this is your last attempt, it would be good if you dont change ur subjects since time left is very short, have a try having the same subjects you may be lucky this time.
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@ Sajjadali....

I prepared Pakistan affair and current affair entirely from newspapers..... and prepared my notes and short notes.....

@ Wajid Khan

I prepared psychology by consulting only two foreign books. and in psychology paper i could not complete paper because my first two questions took 2 hours. and in PAPER-I, i missed one question completely.

@ courageneverdies

Thanks for your comments about future.

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good score better luck for next attempt
can you name of books for psychology especially for paper 2

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englih composition marks :93
We never imagined to see 93 in CSS English Composition paper. Amazing.

Is this not a solid proof of marking trend of FPSC? were all the candidates in previous CE attempts incompetent to score as high as 93 in English Composition? Or Did Pakistan produce Intellectuals only in CE-2010 to score in English Composition? Or Toughness of CE-2010 English Composition paper was of Eighth Class standard?

This is an eye opening evidence of lenient and strict marking / trend setting phenomenon of FPSC.

Level of comfort arises only because of compulsory subject. Setting trend in compulsory subject is not that risky as compared to optional papers. As strict marking in compulsory paper will affect all the candidates and equally opposite to it relaxed marking in compulsory paper will benefit all the candidates without discrimination and without distorting the level playing field.

However; trend setting in optional papers is extremely dangerous which benefits some candidates on the cost of others. Say for example if they have awarded psychology or Islamic history with relaxed and record breaking marks and they have crushed down Journalism and Indo-Pak history. In this case they have done gross injustice with those who opted for Journalism and Indo-Pak history and unduly benefited those who opted for Islamic history and Psychology. In this way they have distorted fairness, and impartiality. Level playing field was not provided to the candidates, how can they justify this dilemma? What was the fault of candidates? Candidates did not know what will happen with certain papers in the forthcoming assessment.

This rule of Jangal should be avoided absolutely. Let the candidate get what he has produced in his paper, award marks as per his efficiency and do not set mere trends to discourage meritorious candidates. Where candidates remain unallocated only because of lagging behind with one mark in that situation awarding 50 to 80 grace marks in some papers and reducing 50 to 80 marks in other papers is a cruel example of injustice. This should be challenged in the court of law with the result proofs from past few years.


See the anomaly, a candidate scores 93 in English Composition and is flunked in English Essay, does this make any sense? In my opinion if he gets 93 in Composition then he is perfectly excellent in English language, grammar, punctuation, comprehension, expansion, and precise skills. He is a perfect candidate.
And tell me the required skill set of English Essay? Aren't these: Covered in expansion skills, grammar strength, punctuation sense, precise and meaningful points, comprehending skills, and a good mix of vocab?
Only one factor is missing in Composition paper which is additionally required in English Essay i.e. Knowledge of Subject Topic. Isn't it funny a candidate passes all his compulsory and optional papers with excellent marks except essay? He clears current affairs, Pakistan affairs, EDS, Islamiat, and Journalism, history etc. Won't he be able to produce at least four strong points on his selected topic of essay out of such a huge list of topics in essay paper? I mean, this doesn't make any sense.

Don't tell me, that essay requires coherence, analytical skills, and logical production. Please use your sense and you will find these skills in composition as well. Your coherence skills and logical production is already tested in precise writing where you have scored 93. Your analytical skills are already tested in expansion. Then what is left for essay to be marked brutally at 17 marks?????


FPSC paper assessment process needs to be modified on realistic approach. Those who are advocating CSS as a highly competitive exam with the requirement of virtuous skills to get through exam should at least think over these above alarming issues. Luck is no where it is a subjective judgment of human being which has compelled us to believe in luck when we are not assessed realistically. FPSC has to wipe out that subjective assessment factor and human preoccupied perception factor.


I quoted example of this candidate for illustration purpose, I do not have any enmity or affiliation with this person. In fact, I feel sorry for injustice with this guy. He deserves to be a successful candidates. There are lot of other examples which are similar in nature like Usman Khalid.

Just recall your memory, normally English Composition was considered to be a paper of average 40s and exceptionally 50s, extra exceptionally 60s range paper. CE-2010 has recorded another history by making its average range in 60s, middle range in 70s n 80s, and best range in 93, I don't know it may have touched 100 even.



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Dear Friends.. Here is another disappointing DMS...

Essay: -------------- 24

English: ------------- 66

GK-1 EDS: ---------- 45

GK-2 CA:------------ 40

GK-3 PA:------------ 36

Islamiat:------------- 41

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Sociology:----------- 44

Journalism:----------- 45

Indo-Pak HS-1:------- 39

Indo-pak HS-2:------- 42

Urdu-I :-------------- 39

Urdu-II:-------------- 65

Total Written: 526.

It was not an ordinary attempt, but ALLAH knows what is wrong and what is right for us. So no justifications. I am working hard to nail the next exam. The comming CE-2011 is my last hope.

In 2009 I got through Essay paper with 43 marks ... This term the essay proved the most dangerous subject for me. Last Term I got 56 In Sociology with normal pre work. This term 44 marks are not saticfactory with much more hardwork as compared to the prior. Journalism led every body down this term so no need to say anything except that I got 19 Mcq's right In Jornalism and got only 45 in written is justice? Indo Pak History, the most decisive subject in my low agregate.

Suppose If I had passed essay paper too, there were no chance of getting through the exam due to my optionals which all came down hard simultaneously.

YA ALLAH ... I need your help ... As CSS in not only a game of Hard work, but of Good Luck too.
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We never imagined to see 93 in CSS English Composition paper. Amazing.

Is this not a solid proof of marking trend of FPSC? were all the candidates in previous CE attempts incompetent to score as high as 93 in English Composition? Or Did Pakistan produce Intellectuals only in CE-2010 to score in English Composition? Or Toughness of CE-2010 English Composition paper was of Eighth Class standard?

This is an eye opening evidence of lenient and strict marking / trend setting phenomenon of FPSC.

Level of comfort arises only because of compulsory subject. Setting trend in compulsory subject is not that risky as compared to optional papers. As strict marking in compulsory paper will affect all the candidates and equally opposite to it relaxed marking in compulsory paper will benefit all the candidates without discrimination and without distorting the level playing field.
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I totally agree with you.
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mr.sajjid .or any senior. i need help. it doest not matter from whom.
for composition

i got a book of ilumi book depot for improving my tenses and grammatical mistakes.then i consulted Collins cobild grammar

the change occurred in my English when i got command on the conditional sentences .thats the key in my English.

and done the part of avoiding common blunders in english from exploring the world of english.

i made short sentences and avoided using which and who clause.and only used them where it was necessary.

the main trick in english is never try to impress too much the examiner with ur english by using huge vocabulary.right which is easily understandable even by a student with not much knowledge of english.but this does not mean that u right wrong english.
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