Why 2010 candidates secured unbelievable low marks in optionals?
 

i invite the attention of those members who have scored very low marks, to unbelievable degree, in various subjects.To my knowledge, journalism,sociology, history of indopak, accounting and auditing and some other subjects have brought highly unexpected results.I secured 36 marks in journalism ,though 17 of my MCQs were correct and i attempted all the four question that were general in nature.Many others have shared the same fate in other subjects as well.an any body tell that what are reasons behind it?

low marks in journalism
 

[QUOTE=Saleeqa Batool;230375]i invite the attention of those members who have scored very low marks, to unbelievable degree, in various subjects.To my knowledge, journalism,sociology, history of indopak, accounting and auditing and some other subjects have brought highly unexpected results.I secured 36 marks in journalism ,though 17 of my MCQs were correct and i attempted all the four question that were general in nature.Many others have shared the same fate in other subjects as well.an any body tell that what are reasons behind it?[/QUOTE]


i totally agree with what you said.Same thing happend with me in journalism, as i got 27 marks and am still shocked coz i attempted all the questions (in ma opinion quiet well) coz the paper of journalism was so easy and even the objectives,but most of the students are failed in journalism...as far as i think is they did reallly strict marking because they have made that paper reallly halwa sort ov.

Yeh Kiya Ho raha hey?
 

[QUOTE]I correct 19 MCQ's in Journalism and i just got 44 marks. I drew charts, flow charts, circles, lots of example etc.

In Accounting & Auditing Paper, totally unjust marks. my both papers were correct, i was expecting minimum 160. but i just got 79.

by Bunko[/QUOTE]

Saleeqa can you tell me your roll # ?

:unsure:

Journalism nd Indian History were de Finest papers by me nd yet after grabbing 19 correct mcq's I scored 33 in journalism nd 68 in Indian History wd 34 correct mcq's in both paper :(.

Why 2010 candidates have failed/secured less marks in optional subjects ?
 

Why 2010 CSS candidates have failed/secured less marks in subjects like Journalism and Islamic History which have remained scoring ones in past ?

Kindly anyone who has passed plz discuss the methodology that they applied ?

bhai hm saarey asal me buhutt hi nalayak he isliyay hamare number nhy aye..iss bar css ki sb se nalayak lot ne paper diye he:p:p
jokes apart bro,FPSC shud be asked this questn..candidates came with excellent prep dis tym round too..it is above my head y dint dey score well in sum optnlz..fpsc is following sum draconian policy to discourage ppl frm doin css..dats what I can assume!

There might be another reason, a large no. of aspirants were running after journalism & history, and it seemed as if these were also compulsory subjects....:onesec
now trend would be changed again:comein
another theory of scoring in optional and passing compulsory has also been reversed by FPSC:onesec

Number of candidates from each province and Interview??????
 

Salam!

Guys! please share information about the number of candidates who have passed the CSS 2010 written exam from each province and also there is great deal of uncertainity that when the FPSC is going to begin the psychological assessment and interview phase???????????????. Kindly infrom about these two matters.
Thank You.

salam...

Elective study is the worse cause behind the scene.... i observed that now people switched from good books to some marketish books.. just like some exam cram series and like that.... so people consider that if they cram 20 question that it is enough and according to student point of view they are going to examination hall with full "prep", but , on the other hand nobody is fullfilling the FPSC's criteria of "conceptual study"....

Therefore, my dear fellows... if you prep 20 or 25 question than only luck can be helpfull my dear.............

The best way to get good score is to study one text-book rather than a book comprises of some elective question.....One book study is the best and scoring study in the field of CSS, but, only text-book........

Excellent answer by Tipu !!
I do believe that as well, there is no substitute of a "text book", for God's sake get rid of [I]dogar sons[/I] kind of books and start STUDYING instead of "preparing" !! That was my key to success !

Yaar my journalism paper was so excelent as my all 20 objectives were correct and i attempted all four questions well but i got 43 and same is the case in sociology and got 44 in that,,,, indo-pak history paper 1 was tricky but i did well as my objective paper was more than 15 and subjective too was a goodone but scored 24 in that ab banda inse pooche ke marks kaha gaye,,,
As said by Mr. Tipu that we should prepare from text books rarther than exam cram,,, sir g in my international law paper i studied from a guide which law students usually consider for LLB exam just to pass and even my paper was not done well but i got 50 in that,,, now we can see the difference of exam cram and the score in subjects which i prepared from text books(journalism, sociology, history).
Asal mei FPSC walo ke pass paper chek karne wale hi koi ese ghattia log hai jo khud is kaam ke laiq nahi,,,

Still Confused about Journalism.
 

I literally did 20 mcqs perfectly correct , even then i got 42 marks .
My Roll 7643.
I made notes from three books and not only prepared them well but also did my paper quite well.
I am still confused on my result.
What I think that FPSC has deliberetely done this to discourage students from opting it in future as it had become most opted subject now-a-days.



I wonder if world has become terrible or news reporter are working hard..........

[QUOTE=Tipu Shah;231296]salam...

Elective study is the worse cause behind the scene.... i observed that now people switched from good books to some marketish books.. just like some exam cram series and like that.... so people consider that if they cram 20 question that it is enough and according to student point of view they are going to examination hall with full "prep", but , on the other hand nobody is fullfilling the FPSC's criteria of "conceptual study"....

Therefore, my dear fellows... if you prep 20 or 25 question than only luck can be helpfull my dear.............

The best way to get good score is to study one text-book rather than a book comprises of some elective question.....One book study is the best and scoring study in the field of CSS, but, only text-book........[/QUOTE]

You're right regarding the preparation method. I totally agree with you, CSS demands solid writing, technique, and information loaded answers in each and every subject but my friend, i read three complete text books of journalism, made my own notes and did everything one can possibly do to prepare for a subject. I nailed 19 mcq's, and attempted all of the four questions quite comprehensively and inserted some of the relevant stuff which i read on internet. i scored 46. which is not THAT bad considering this year's trend. but i would like to share one more thing with you. My friend scored 68 in journalism. He copied my notes, and read one book and that is journalism for all by mehdi hasan. He's a mediocre student, hates to explain things, writes short answers and he nailed 13 mcq's in journalism paper. How possibly on earth he got 68? I'm very happy for my friend but seriously if you ask him, he do not have any idea from where he got 68 marks in journalism. This kinda thing confuses me a lot. care to explain?

The reason is that it is FPSC marking trend that the institute's has hidden marking policy. This time, histories, geo, journalism and public add have been targeted. On the other hand, pol science which is considered usually as low marking subject, has been taken lenient while marking this paper.

I dont understand the marking policy of FSPC. My friend corrected all mcqs and he secure only 29 marks. It means, he has been deliberately awarded low marking due to FPSC strange marking policy this jeopardizes future of many hard working and deserving candidates.

I am astonished to see very low marking in Accounting and auditing subject.
:((

Allah khair karey hamara 2011 mey.
Overall, I have doubt on FPSC's fairness and transparency

Regards
Aariz Memon

hi guys.
i scored 581 in written .all of my papers are passed.
1) i prepared indo pak history from the following books:

tuzke babri, tuzke jahangari, tarikhe fertoz shahi, medieval india(william mure),mediwval india from sultanate to mughals(satish chandra),medieval indian culture, and a few others.
gave appropriate quotations, maps,relevant references,flow charts etc.

in part a and b paper . inj paper 1 mcq,s correct are 18,in paper 2 mcq,s correct are 20. now look at my score;
indo pak history 1=48
paper 2 =33.
2) journalism:
19 mcq were correct.
attempted all 4 questions by giving models, theories(at least six) for each question.
look at my score
journalism=50
3)geography:
paper a mcq,s=16
paper b mcq,s=17
made diagrams in a paper and maps where required in b paper. alongwith facts n figures. now look ;
geo paper A = 47
geo paper B = 33
----my estimate was to score at least 500 out of optional 600 marks.

say something!

[QUOTE=mossavir;231591] My friend scored 68 in journalism. He copied my notes, and read one book and that is journalism for all by mehdi hasan. He's a mediocre student, hates to explain things, writes short answers and he nailed 13 mcq's in journalism paper. he do not have any idea from where he got 68 marks in journalism. [/QUOTE]
Dear musavir,
Ur friend opted the strategy that Fpsc examiners followed this time
that is
giving solid marks to the people who had written to-the-point stuff.
who did not give theories, hypothesis and flowery explainations.
This is the case with me
i had studied only relevant material for journalism u can say only 5 topics and nailed 16 correct objectives then [B]i scored [/B][B]59[/B] in the subject.
can u believe that? :ohmy:
On the other hand,

i had studied four books for the [B]forestry coz it waz subject quite novel to me [/B] and i prepared notes by myself for all the topics mentioned in the syllabus. i left not a single topic unread.I did 14 mcq's correct and attempted all the four papers [B]in hefty details with charts as well[/B]
at the end of the day, i scored a [B]BIG 33 [/B].
so, crux ov the matter is that ,
this time details and explainations were considered OVER EFFECIENCY .
better luck next time.:D

Suggestion for optional Subjects.
 

Dear Members of CSS Forum
I failed in all compulsory paper except Essay (marks 45) and my optional subjects were Accountacy & Auditing (marks 63), POL Science (91) Statistics (15) Mercantile LAW (38). I want to change all subjects except POL Secience. What should I choose optional subject, my qualification is M. Com and I am working as Admin & Accounts Officer in Government Department. Please give best suggestions.

Shakeel Ahmad Seelra
District Rajanpur

[QUOTE=Seelra;231604]Dear Members of CSS Forum
I failed in all compulsory paper except Essay (marks 45) and my optional subjects were Accountacy & Auditing (marks 63), POL Science (91) Statistics (15) Mercantile LAW (38). I want to change all subjects except POL Secience. What should I choose optional subject, my qualification is M. Com and I am working as Admin & Accounts Officer in Government Department. Please give best suggestions.

Shakeel Ahmad Seelra
District Rajanpur[/QUOTE]

Dear shakeel,
better opt for
1:Journalism (a very interesting and mark awarding subject)
2:Geography (a very high scoring subject except this time scores)
3:Any regional language that u know well most especially Pushto , sindhi and punjabi or balochi. (very high-scoring are all they) but dont go for URDU.
4:Muslim law and Islamic Jurisprudence (a subject in which u need to write less and avail maximum marks :happy:)

try to read their syllabi
best ov luck

I think that in CSS 2009 more than 900 candidates have finally qualified but there are only 388 seats. So more than 500 candidates are discouraged. Thats why FPSC have applied strict marking rule in 2010. Only 638 are passed after written and after interview there will be less than 300, so maximum of them will be allocated.
Lets see what will happen in CSS 2011......

Hard work of 5-6 months can change our fate. So we should start hard work from now.

Hope for the best.

Regards....

I don't know about the rest but in my experience bookish knowledge seldom fetch you good marks. In my last attempt, I scored the lowest in sociology. This time it was the highest scoring subject for me. The difference was that I attempted opinion based questions with solid arguments and wrote nothing from the book. In journalism, just like everybody, I fell into the trap and attempted the same old theory based questions. What else can you expect in Journalism when every other candidate is attempting the same questions and that also in almost similar fashion. One of my friend did exactly the opposite and scored 62 in Journalism.

Best of luck next time.

AOA to all,
He did that & i did this.He got this much marks and i got that much marks. He applied that strategy and i applied some other strategy.I studied from books and he prepared his own notes. I can't understand this. Are v people confusing our own selves?Tell me is there any pet rule for scoring in CSS exams?If yes, then why have people scored so low after all the hard work.And as they say " Success has many fathers".So if anyone has scored well in any particular subject he wants to get all the credit by telling about his techniques and strategies.People who got low marks in optionals or those who failed in essay or Islamiat did it intentionally i think so.What to say? And when u tell someone around u about the scoring trends he/she has a devilish smile on his/her face.And they say all this happened due to lack of hard work. Oh come on you didn't study well and u were not serious.

I agree.. Jitne mun utni baten. people who smile would never be able to realize the agony of candidates because they never dare to sit for the exam.

[QUOTE=hamza_salick86;231290]bhai hm saarey asal me buhutt hi nalayak he isliyay hamare number nhy aye..iss bar css ki sb se nalayak lot ne paper diye he:p:p
jokes apart bro,FPSC shud be asked this questn..candidates came with excellent prep dis tym round too..it is above my head y dint dey score well in sum optnlz..fpsc is following sum draconian policy to discourage ppl frm doin css..dats what I can assume![/QUOTE]

very well said hamza..... we really dnt hv a better clarification than what u hv said :)......... thumbs up to u buddy

[QUOTE=Baggio;231293]There might be another reason, a large no. of aspirants were running after journalism & history, and it seemed as if these were also compulsory subjects....:onesec
now trend would be changed again:comein
another theory of scoring in optional and passing compulsory has also been reversed by FPSC:onesec[/QUOTE]

yes this too is de case as many would think twice rather trice taking histories nd journalism as their optional subjects in 2011

[QUOTE=Alchemist;231295]Salam!

Guys! please share information about the number of candidates who have passed the CSS 2010 written exam from each province and also there is great deal of uncertainity that when the FPSC is going to begin the psychological assessment and interview phase???????????????. Kindly infrom about these two matters.
Thank You.[/QUOTE]

35 from sindh
475+ from punjab
97 from KPK nd Fata
18 from Baluchistan

[QUOTE=Tipu Shah;231296]salam...

Elective study is the worse cause behind the scene.... i observed that now people switched from good books to some marketish books.. just like some exam cram series and like that.... so people consider that if they cram 20 question that it is enough and according to student point of view they are going to examination hall with full "prep", but , on the other hand nobody is fullfilling the FPSC's criteria of "conceptual study"....

Therefore, my dear fellows... if you prep 20 or 25 question than only luck can be helpfull my dear.............

The best way to get good score is to study one text-book rather than a book comprises of some elective question.....One book study is the best and scoring study in the field of CSS, but, only text-book........[/QUOTE]

mere bhai... talkin abt hstries i read all from
al beruni to akbar nama
sm shahid to k. ali
ikram rabani to fazlai kareem
maccuci to james todd
abul fazal to khanai khana

lekin phir bhi i got 68 in indian hstry, jis ka koi tuk hi nahi banta.... as i ws quite confident ov scoring nything around 130...... nd

[QUOTE=ali emraan;231597]hi guys.
i scored 581 in written .all of my papers are passed.
1) i prepared indo pak history from the following books:

tuzke babri, tuzke jahangari, tarikhe fertoz shahi, medieval india(william mure),mediwval india from sultanate to mughals(satish chandra),medieval indian culture, and a few others.
gave appropriate quotations, maps,relevant references,flow charts etc.

in part a and b paper . inj paper 1 mcq,s correct are 18,in paper 2 mcq,s correct are 20. now look at my score;
indo pak history 1=48
paper 2 =33.
2) journalism:
19 mcq were correct.
attempted all 4 questions by giving models, theories(at least six) for each question.
look at my score
journalism=50
3)geography:
paper a mcq,s=16
paper b mcq,s=17
made diagrams in a paper and maps where required in b paper. alongwith facts n figures. now look ;
geo paper A = 47
geo paper B = 33
----my estimate was to score at least 500 out of optional 600 marks.

say something![/QUOTE]

brother wish u very best ov luck wd ur next attempt...... as we all wont let our hard work down de drain :)