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1)There was no need for other candidates to line with you. All that was needed was protest from you. Eyewitnesses are created automatically

2)There are CCTVs in all FPSC halls so theoretically you didn't even needed eyewitnesses

3)No one could have thrown your paper or hardwork in the dustbin after you had complained. Infact that would have made the examiners extra careful not to do anything to you or your paper because of conflict of interest/complaint from your side. Think of it like this....if ABC says XYZ is going to kill him and next day ABC ends up dead then blame would automatically go on XYZ

4)There is no question of anyone abusing or beating you outside the hall. You are a woman in Islamabad and not a 'gaon ki anparh larki' in Cheechu ki Malian.

Lastly in another post of yours you suggested that I along with another member write to FPSC. I won't; because I know the futileness of this exercise. However yes, if this happens in front of me and I am pissed about my paper, I would ensure that whoever is cheating gets arrested and the whole invigilator staff gets fired. No offense but I wouldn't be making a thread any crying over spilled milk.

Very well said..!! Aik step lainay ki zaroorat hooti hai, peechay sath dainay wlay khd jama hoo jatay hain.!! Laikin ya baat mature minds ma aa sakti hai bus..
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1)There was no need for other candidates to line with you. All that was needed was protest from you. Eyewitnesses are created automatically

2)There are CCTVs in all FPSC halls so theoretically you didn't even needed eyewitnesses

3)No one could have thrown your paper or hardwork in the dustbin after you had complained. Infact that would have made the examiners extra careful not to do anything to you or your paper because of conflict of interest/complaint from your side. Think of it like this....if ABC says XYZ is going to kill him and next day ABC ends up dead then blame would automatically go on XYZ

4)There is no question of anyone abusing or beating you outside the hall. You are a woman in Islamabad and not a 'gaon ki anparh larki' in Cheechu ki Malian.

Lastly in another post of yours you suggested that I along with another member write to FPSC. I won't; because I know the futileness of this exercise. However yes, if this happens in front of me and I am pissed about my paper, I would ensure that whoever is cheating gets arrested and the whole invigilator staff gets fired. No offense but I wouldn't be making a thread any crying over spilled milk.
reality doesn't change with ever-increasing argument with no concluding note. You have simply personalized the whole issue and thank u for telling me about CCTV... Unfortunately, I am a bit too realistic and do not hope much from my system!
I am a woman living in Pakistan and have a better picture of my society in front of me, either ISB or cheechu ki maliyan!
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And btw let me add some points here

1)Everyone who gives CSS has some sort of backing e.g. they either belong to political families/industrialist families/land lord family/have other CSPs in family/belong to middle class family with little bit connections. In short everyone has some sort of backing nowadays, which means there is no question of you or anyone else getting abused/beaten up/humiliated when you are on the right path.

2)The threat of media is supreme. If you make even a single threat of calling the media, even the most powerful minister would fall in your feet.

3)General public isn't that insensitive as you make it to be. If you are the aggrieved party and if you are being harmed, EVERYONE will come to your aid

4)All these points are compounded exponentially since you are a woman. In Pakistan, even if a woman is wrong but makes a public case out of it she will be supported no matter what

Thats it. I rest my case. Now its upto you whether to take action in future or not
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Today, when I handed over my paper to the examiner and was going out of the hall, I witnessed a candidate being helped by another person (probably co- examiner) Un janab k samne kisi or ka paper solved samne rakha hua tha or woh janab likh rahe the. I stopped for like few seconds to believe what my eyes saw and it was true! and guess was it was FPSC HALL, Isb.

I was kind of angry & hurt and felt for each and every candidate appearing and who believed in his her own skills!
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In this government, we can not deny the presence of booti culture and I can surely say that what she (xaara) has mentioned is certainly hapening in css exams. However, we should not be dejected after viewing these kind of scenes rather than we should trust on Allah. He (Allah) never does injustice with anyone and I have quoted this verse from Holy Quran many other places in which Allah says: "I confer you in accordance with your struggle" Para 27 Surah Al-Najam, verse 31. May Allah guide all of us.

And also for those who are using bootis or those who are helping them and providing bootis will see the result in this world and on the day of judgment. They can achieve success for short time but they will never ever be successful on long term basis and will be ruined. I requrest all those who are dejected/confused because they are poor, do not have any source, i want to tell them to workhard and forget everything. Just work hard, trust on Allah and be patient. I assure you that you will certainly achieve whatever you want.

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I feel I should raise voice for this: we should solve MCQz in answer book, why is there a need for those weird green sheets to marks your answers on. And also you get only 30 minutes to solve MCQz, because of those pesky green sheets. yeh kiya hai, hamari marzi jab tak solve karen .

main compulsory papers ke baad buhut thak gaya tha, magar mere optionals papers lagataar aa rahe they aur woh bhi 2 rozana, pehle optional main mere dimaagh kee jaise batiyaan bujh chuki theen. Aur doosra main kaafi door se exam hall puhunchta hoon, to aksar late bhi ho jaati hai aur bhaagta bhaagta puhunchta hoon. Jaise puhuncho yeh green color ke namoone haath main pakra dete hain (mujhe to nafrat ho gayi in se ). Abhi maine mcqz solve kiye aur un main diye hue chokor khaane fill kiye, time jaldi guzar gaya, review karne laga to dekha ke 4 mcqz, jo mujhe confirm aate the, woh maine ghalat boxes main bhar diye the. Examiner ooper aa ke khara ho gaya, maine kaha "Sir plz doosri sheet de den", bolne laga "beta abhi time khatam ho gaya hai, pehle batate" (bata nahin sakta dil main kiya kiya kaha maine us ko ). Phir usi din doosre paper main bhi yehi tragedy ho gayi, phir 4 ghalat mark ho gaye aur phir time kaa scene . kul mila ke 8 marks to meri fazool main chali gayeen .

in green sheets main 40 50 jagahen khaali hoti hain, jab ke paper main khaali 20 mcqz hote hain. agar banda papers main thaka hua ho to pata hee nahin lagta kiya aur kahan tick kar raha hai. abhi 20 mcqz ke liye in sheets kee zaroorat hee kiya hai, examiner khud hee check kar sakta hai . 20 mcqz agar hum answer book main hee likh den ge to kiya faraq pare gaa.
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Today, when I handed over my paper to the examiner and was going out of the hall, I witnessed a candidate being helped by another person (probably co- examiner) Un janab k samne kisi or ka paper solved samne rakha hua tha or woh janab likh rahe the. I stopped for like few seconds to believe what my eyes saw and it was true! and guess was it was FPSC HALL, Isb.

I was kind of angry & hurt and felt for each and every candidate appearing and who believed in his her own skills!

Yesterday in the same Hall(FPSC HQ Islb.) MCQs answer sheet of a candidate was replaced after 10 minutes of paper starting, while in the same paper a person sitting next to me asked for replacement in very first minute as he had written wrong date but his one was not replaced.........KHAMOSHI KA BOYCOTT
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kahna bohot asaan hai yeh sub. without any unity at our backs, talking these things is daydreaming!!!
aisa krte hain, ap or main or man1 or baqi sub ikhatay ho k FPSC complain krte hain? koi awaz uthate hain? CCTV to hon ge, how about it??
we can also suggest and force FPSC to take remarks from students about the atmosphere and corruption.
i was in hall b and just found that students were chirping and CCTV were not sufficient.
in coming days i left with only Muslim Law and Public ad.
and honestly speaking this time am appearing on just trail basis and may stand with u for the cause without any fear.
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