salam.Yes,if it is a deliberate effort to increase quota of some paticular grroup,it should be checked then.otherwise,no offence.
@ others
As minorities are getting seats via open,provincial and general quota,same is true for women as they are managing seats from open,provincial and women quota.Situation is more debatable and mysterious on this side because the seats vacated by the females(which get allocated on provincial quota) are provided to females,next in order rather to next merit no.(See allocation 2011)
similarly,candidates of sind urban got allocation upto 784 but those of punjab upto 209.So it is also injustice not to allocate a person higher in merit.
Will it not be wisable to retain only one quota i.e open merit?But no ,it will only deflagrate long debates and discussions on uneven educational system of different pakistani regions.So compromising with the system in hand will be more suitable.
@ rabia afzal
Sister,in my humble veiw,we should pay more attention to play our part in pakistan 's progress rather than criticising some.Moreover, i have not heard about any qadiyani, involved in anti pakistani activity.rest Allah knows better.
Dont get offended.
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Its really frustrating whats happening in CE-2011 allocation.

Firstly the woman quota has created great confusion among the qualifiers and now minority quota will also create the same problem.

Secondly the group allocation is also ambiguous.

Now in Sindh (R) , the things are really messed up. I don't know whats happening.

Two female candidates (merit no. 267 and 400 in pakistan and merit no. 18 and 28 in Sind-R respectively) consumed two seats from woman quota and their merit seats fell into the woman quota pool.
Now merit seats were likely to be ( OMG , IG ) but the seats fell in woman quota are ( 2 PG) seats and the above mention seats are awarded to the male candidates coming next in the merit.



The other issue is that what is applicable for the woman quota is not the same for the minority quota.
A minority candidate (347 in Pakistan and 22 in sind-R) consumed the seat from the minority quota but his merit seat didn't fall in minority quota pool and his merit seat was awarded to the candidates next in the merit( 418 in Pakistan).


Lastly the issue of All Pakistan Merit Seats( Provincial seat if candidate from that province secures that seat) that is already discussed by some forum members.


Now the question is that what kind of rules FPSC is applying at this?. I think FPSC is itself not clear regarding this matter.

I request all the Learned members of the forum to throw some light on this issue?

By the way, how many Ahmedis have been selected this year? Is it confirmed that all the three minorities allocated on Punjab minority quota are Ahmedis?

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Any federation is about managing the affairs of whole country through provinces. And CSS is a competitive exam conducted by the federation but people are taken from provinces as they are the actual units of federation.

So, every one competes at various levels. On national level for 7.5% quota. On province level against no of seats allocated to province. On religious level against no of seats allocated to minorities. On Gender level against no of seats allocated to women. So, it is all about an inclusive service where different groups are given their respective share. In all this competition, a normal muslim boy gets two chances at two levels - federation (7.5%) and provincial level. Whereas the most lucky one is a minority women, getting chances on 4 levels - federation, province, minority, women.

If we consider this exam keeping in view the true spirit of a federation, all criticism against quota (regional, religous or otherwise) would be vanished. After all, do Sindhis, Balochis, KPians, AJKians, FATA not make up whole Pakistan? Do women and minority are not part of this society? This is how a true federation works.

If Pakistan is a federation, consisting on provinces in which different people live - minority and women, and exam is conducted for federal services, the quota system would have to be there. One should not have any criticism as far as any women or minority is allocated against his own quota. yes, how that quota is calculated and which seats are given is debatable.

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@ ALL
respected members the federating units be given representation through the election and parliment. css is a technical and professional job. it should onl be given to those who are the best qualified and who excel others in competitive examinaton.
i strongly oppose the quota system in ALL forms in css may it be WOMEN quota or MINORITY quaota. a simple merit list shouldbe prepared on basi of css exam mks and say if thre are 200 seats the TOP 200 candidates be allocated those seats irrespective of gender or religion bor anythin else. if this be done then grat result will occur in terms of progress and performance of pakistan.

So far as I Know, FPSC has clearly mentioned that suitability of the candidate will be taken into consideration for joining Civil Services after Psychological test.

So Psychological test may have played its role in the allocations.

Emaan zia you must read the book "Parliament main qadiyani shikast" to get information about their activities. You will get references of their books. Now to give a hint i am quoting an example here. We all have heard that Red Cliff Award was unjust. Gurdaspur(also route to kashmir through India) and surrounding areas were awarded to India despite of muslim majority. However reality is bit different and has been endorsed by parliament. Infact muslims were 49%, qadiyani 2% and others 49%. Khalifa of qadiaynis wrote a letter to red cliff to treat them a separate community from muslims. So muslims became 49% and others 51%. This letter was presented in Parliament in 1973 and Mirza Nasir(khalifa of qadiyan) at the time has to admit it. Remaining you can read in book.

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i was unable to understand first but now karar cleared all process. thanx karar sb. i hav been allocated in psp at mrit no.7.

Quota system does not mean that the person is not capable enough to hold the job. Afterall each qualifier is a cream taken out of about 13,000 people. Secondly, being topper in CSS does not mean that he/she is the ablest person amongst all other qualifiers, there are many factors which may contribute.

To eliminate the quota system completely, first of all provide equal education to all. In CSS a candidate who passes his/her exam from LUMS/IBA/Oxford etc sits with the candidates who passed exam from Virtual/AIOU/or any regional university and sometimes privately. Don't you consider the latter much more competent than the former if he/she competes with him/her and beats a lot of them? I am sure if latter is given same facilities as former gets, he/she would beat him/her in every field of life. So, first provide equal educational opportunities, then talk about quota elimination.

For me, CSS is a federation services where all federating units must have their share in employment. It is not about representing the people of those provinces/regions rather its the issue of employment. Secondly, the qualifiers who get seats on quota do not get their allocations uncompetitive, rather they have to compete with each other as well.

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"If you really want to achieve something the whole universe conspires for you to get your dream realized."

i am a beneficiary of the quota system as i got allocation even at 396 position because of rural sindh quota, but i am still of the view that quta system sould be abolished ompletely as it is detrimental to the true compatitive spirit of css.

i did my graduation from GOVERNMENT COLLEGE, lahore which is one of the best institutions of pakistan. when i get the same level of education as a normal punjabi gets then why should i be favoured against him just because i was blessed wth a sindh rural quaota.

to employ the provincial people the prvincial public service commissions should create jobs. css should only be for those who are the best.

if the board thinks the a localy educaed candidate has put inmore effort to compete with a foreign qualified candidate then uch candidate be given more mks in interview.

i personaly think that there should be NO QUOTA in css.