Yes, remove the quota system and then get ready to have an increase on the factors all other provinces are already weary about, especially vis-a-vis Punjab.

And my friends, if you consider a person landing in top 50 more able than a person on merit no 500, you are just mistaken. One exam does not make someone better than other. If you still doubt, just let the top 50s reappear and see the result. For me, all who have qualified are competent enough to serve the people well.

Another viable option is to increase the ratio of All Pakistan Merit Seats to 40%-50%. Remaining seats on basis of quota.

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Dear sir, then how about surrendering your seat? After all, someone has to step forward to fight this 'scourge'.

My dear friends, quota is not because some segments of the federation are less privileged or intellectually inferior to others. The true essence of this fair practice is to ensure representation of all states/provinces against their own share of seats already divided on the basis of population. Had these hirings be done only for Islamabad, no one would have argued against the notion of open merit. Unless this happens, let the sanity prevail!

Let me put it this way: if, God forbid, any of the province chooses to secede out of the Federation; dont you think the number of vacancies against each service group will decrease? This means that fpsc hires the candidates against provincial seats (with some exceptions) and no one else but the natives have an exclusive right to these jobs.

this is a viable option. a very balanced and practical opinon.

if all who have qualified are competent then you should ask the govt. to allocate all of them, why discrimination iby quota.
secondly if you say that one exam is not a sufficient crieteria then tell the govt to adopt the pattern of civil servie exam in india, it is a two teir examination system. there is problem with lack of policy making and hardworking candidates are suffering due to it.
quota is basically a colonial relic and must end in all cicumstances.

my dear i belong to a jhangirdar family, and the 20k-25k pay is no issue for me. i am not being proud or anything such as iam a very humble and godfearing man but i just wanted to answer your question that i am everready to surrender my seat given that the quota system is completely abolished. doing css was just a child's adventure for me and nothing more, thus iam ready to surrender.

as far as your next part of question is conerned i couldnt understand your point of view atall so i cantcomment on it.
anyways stay blessed.

according to the 16th ammendment in 1973 constitution passed on july 27 1999, it was declared thet quota system should be extended upto another 20 years. so constitutionaly quota life is only upto 2019, i.e 7 years re remaining for the end of this ridiculous sytem. i pray that it end even before that period so MERIT can prevail in its true spirit.

wow...that is a good piece of information.I hope they don't extend this for another 20 years.

please comment on this.......

Revamping the civil service: ‘It’s time to reconsider quota system’

The job services quota system has been in place for the 40 years, but many are questioning whether it has delivered what it set out to achieve.

Former senior bureaucrats say it hasn’t – in fact, they’re calling for a complete overhaul of the system and an in-depth analysis of the policy’s outcome.

Article 27 of the 1973 Constitution had provided safeguards against discrimination in services on grounds of race, religion, caste, sex, residence or place of birth. The idea behind this was to promote the interests of people living in less developed areas.

The quota system, which was created as an exception to this rule, is set to expire in August 2013 . Roedad Khan, who has held the posts of Sindh chief secretary and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) chief secretary before his retirement, is sceptical about whether it should continue.

“The whole question [of the quota system] needs to be looked at afresh by a high level commission, perhaps headed by a Supreme Court judge, which must examine in depth what have we achieved since this policy began,” he said.

According to the current recruitment policy listed at the Central Superior Service of Pakistan website, only 10% of posts are reserved for merit.

Khan suggested that one should look into the possibility of changing the policy so that jobs were granted on a 100% merit basis. He said one should also re-evaluate the policy’s dependence on a domicile.

The quota system, Roedad Khan recalled, was introduced in 1949. But back then, the quota system made sense – the newly created country was in disarray. “Pakistan inherited only one Indian Civil Services officer at the time of its creation,” he recalled.

Later, after Pakistan lost its Eastern wing, the 1973 Constitution laid down an updated set of rules for the quota system that remains in place till today.

“There should be no quota in Punjab to begin with. They have several competent candidates there who can compete on merit,” Khan said. He said the same applied to Karachi and most of K-P.

He did clarify, however, that exceptions could be made for some tribal areas of K-P and Balochistan.

Another retired Sindh chief secretary, Kunwar Idrees, said, “The quota system should be renamed the ministers’ quota system … What matters now is whether a minister is bent upon giving the jobs to his Mohajir, Sindhi or Pathan supporters,” he said.

Idrees also suggested reforms, saying a quota should be allocated to backward areas only, whether that’s Balochistan or Dera Ghazi Khan in Punjab.

However, he warned of the political ramifications of such a move. He recalled that language riots began when former prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto introduced a special quota system in Sindh. “…That is why the system gets extended after every few decades – no one wants to deal with those problems,” he said.

Former Inspector General of Sindh Afzal Shigri suggested that reforms should be made gradually. “One can increase the allocation of merit seats from the existing 10% to 20% and perhaps revise it again after another 10 or 20 years,” he said.

Sindh’s dilemma

The quota system in Sindh is different from the rest of the provinces. Within its share of 19 %, it is further sub-allocated into two parts: Urban areas; namely Karachi, Hyderabad and Sukkur [40 % of 19 %, or 7.6 %]; and rural areas [60 % of 19 %, or 11.4 %].

Idrees says it is because of this unique quota system in Sindh that any talk of reforms can spark riots between the Mohajir and Sindhi communities.

Muttahida Qaumi Movement lawmaker Waseem Akhtar says the party’s stance from the very beginning has been that the quota system creates discrimination and must be abolished.

Pakistan Peoples Party’s Taj Haider said that while the rationale of the quota system was to facilitate those who didn’t have adequate educational opportunities, the dilemma, he said, is that “our education system is producing ignorant people.”

The Express Tribune

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