Vacancies CE 2012
 

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What is "Carried Over" Vacancies ?

Quota Allocation
 

There should be only one row [b]All Pakistan Merit[/b] in this notification, do not know why these exams are called [b]Competitive Exams[/b] !

[QUOTE=Anønymøus;630828]There should be only one row [b]All Pakistan Merit[/b] in this notification, do not know why these exams are called [b]Competitive Exams[/b] ![/QUOTE]
Then 75% of the seats will go to Punjab. Only few people from other provinces, lower in merit will get allocated.

Vacancies announced in 2011 were 283. Below is the list of top 283 successful candidates. Suppose candidates are allocated on All Pakistan merit, then:

1 830 FAHAD MUMTAZ PUNJAB
2 2892 MIR REZA OZGEN PUNJAB
3 7537 SABA ASGHAR ALI PUNJAB
4 991 MUHAMMAD BILAL QAYYUM PUNJAB
5 6784 MUHAMMAD MAAZ ZAFAR PUNJAB
6 9341 AAFAQ WAZIR GBFATA
7 5036 ABDUL RAUF BABAR PUNJAB
8 6987 MUHAMMAD UMAIR PUNJAB
9 8772 JAHANZEB PUNJAB
10 2684 IMRAN HUSSAIN RANJHA PUNJAB
11 2371 ARSHAD MEHMOOD ABBASI PUNJAB
12 7029 MUHAMMAD USMAN TANVEER PUNJAB
13 8310 WASIM HAMED PUNJAB
14 12359 SYED ALI GBFATA
15 6876 MUHAMMAD RASHID PUNJAB
16 9560 ARIFULLAH AWAN KPK
17 7930 SIDRA SALEEM PUNJAB
18 8359 ZAHID PERVEZ PUNJAB
19 376 MANSOOR AHMED KHAN PUNJAB
20 7085 MUHAMMAD ZEESHAN HANIF PUNJAB
21 6021 IMRAN AHMED MALIK PUNJAB
22 4496 MUHAMMAD USMAN KHALID PUNJAB
23 11169 WASIF REHMAN KPK
24 12012 MARYA JABEEN KPK
25 2632 HASAM BIN IQBAL PUNJAB
26 6398 MIAN MUHAMMD MUMTAZ HAYAT MANEKA PUNJAB
27 5174 AHMED USMAN JAVAID PUNJAB
28 7394 RAFIA HAIDER PUNJAB
29 3177 MUNEEB AHMED PUNJAB
30 10605 OMER MASOOM WAZIR GBFATA
31 8304 WARDA MASHHOOD SHORISH PUNJAB
32 5312 AMEERA BAIDAR PUNJAB
33 7788 SHAH NAWAZ SINDH ( R )
34 5603 DR. ANOOSH MASOOD CH. PUNJAB
35 6602 MUHAMMAD ASIM PUNJAB
36 10295 MUHAMMAD IMRAN SETHI KPK
37 6277 MAHZOOR ALI SINDH ( U )
38 10213 MUHAMMAD ASIF RAHIM KPK
39 5920 HASNAIN HAIDER PUNJAB
40 1272 MUHAMMAD ADIL KHAN GBFATA
41 5502 AYESHA ASHRAF PUNJAB
42 8039 SYED MOSAWWIR ABBAS SHAH PUNJAB
43 11961 KAMRAN KHAN KPK
44 8988 NAVEED SHAHZAD PUNJAB
45 5040 ABDUL ROUF PUNJAB
46 6663 MUHAMMAD FAIZAN BADAR PUNJAB
47 6604 MUHAMMAD ASIM AWAN PUNJAB
48 2287 AITIZAZ AHMAD PUNJAB
49 7045 MUHAMMAD WAQAS MAQSOOD PUNJAB
50 6206 KHURRAM FAKHAR SIDDIQUE PUNJAB
51 2346 AMNA RAFIQUE PUNJAB
52 6194 KHIRAT PUNJAB
53 7126 MUNIR HUSSAIN CHOPRA PUNJAB
54 12879 AMEER FAZAL SINDH ( R )
55 6190 KHAN SHAHZEB BASHIR PUNJAB
56 12543 IFRA TABASSUM PUNJAB
57 8379 ZAINAB ASAD MUNIR PUNJAB
58 7311 OMER MAHMOOD BUTT PUNJAB
59 4368 MUHAMMAD AFTAB PUNJAB
60 1546 SARDAR OMER SHARIF PUNJAB
61 6521 MUHAMMAD AHSAN TAHIR PUNJAB
62 5613 ESSAM ANWAR KHOKHAR PUNJAB
63 6966 MUHAMMAD SULAIMAN PUNJAB
64 2372 ARSLA SALIM PUNJAB
65 7390 RABNAWAZ AHMAD MATIANA PUNJAB
66 3660 SYEDAH MARIA ZAIDI PUNJAB
67 853 GHULAM RASOOL PUNJAB
68 5232 ALI AHSAN WARRAICH PUNJAB
69 9047 SAJEEL SAEED PUNJAB
70 4550 NASRULLAH SINDH ( U )
71 3210 NAJEEB ULLAH KHAN PUNJAB
72 1851 JAVED NABI SINDH ( R )
73 2318 ALTAF AHMED SINDH ( R )
74 7419 RAMIZ SHAFQAT PUNJAB
75 12089 MUHAMMAD JUNAID MURTAZA PUNJAB
76 5046 ABDUL WAHAB PUNJAB
77 5290 ALTAF AHMED SINDH ( R )
78 12487 ALI SALEH HAYAT KALYAR PUNJAB
79 6017 IMRAN ABBAS PUNJAB
80 7015 MUHAMMAD USMAN ALI PUNJAB
81 9163 ZUNERA NOOR PUNJAB
82 2690 IMRAN YOUSEF PUNJAB
83 8397 ZEESHAN ALI SINDH ( R )
84 11104 UMAIR MAHMOOD SIDDIQUI KPK
85 1010 MUHAMMAD IRFAN HAIDER PUNJAB
86 3252 NISHAA ISHTIAK KPK
87 5398 ARMA HASSAN PUNJAB
88 7796 SHAHBAZ ELLAHI KPK
89 1578 TAYYABA NASEER SUNDHO PUNJAB
90 12228 RIDA ABID CHEEMA PUNJAB
91 5208 AKBAR ALI PUNJAB
92 5265 ALI NOOR PUNJAB
93 6489 MUHAMMAD ABUBAKAR PUNJAB
94 6662 MUHAMMAD FIAZ HUSSAIN PUNJAB
95 6499 MUHAMMAD ADNAN PUNJAB
96 7656 SAJJAD SADIQUE PUNJAB
97 8125 TANWIR HUSSAIN BHATTI PUNJAB
98 3804 ZEHRA FAROOQ PUNJAB
99 6110 JAWAD RAZA QURESHI PUNJAB
100 760 AIMEN NADEEM PUNJAB
101 5261 ALI MOHTASHIM MINHAS PUNJAB
102 7464 RAZA HASSAN PUNJAB
103 12635 MUREED HUSSAIN JASRA PUNJAB
104 1547 SARFARAZ AHMED GOHAR PUNJAB
105 5230 ALI AHMED PUNJAB
106 5505 AYESHA IBRAHIM PUNJAB
107 7810 SHAHID IQBAL PUNJAB
108 7702 SANA HAMID PUNJAB
109 5991 HUMMERA LIAQUAT PUNJAB
110 10045 KHALID IQBAL KPK
111 5914 HASAN JAVED BHATTI PUNJAB
112 6085 ISRAR AHMED CHEEMA PUNJAB
113 5045 ABDUL SLAM PUNJAB
114 9533 AMNA TARIQ SHAH KPK
115 8938 MUHAMMAD UMAR JAWAID PUNJAB
116 2681 IMMAD ALAM KPK
117 2326 AMBREEN SAADAT PUNJAB
118 3217 NASIR MAHMOOD PUNJAB
119 450 REHAN RAUF PUNJAB
120 6745 MUHAMMAD IRFAN KHAN BLOCH PUNJAB
121 6469 MUHAMAMD RIZWAN PUNJAB
122 6791 MUHAMMAD MAUZ ZAFAR PUNJAB
123 11996 MAHROO ARSHAD PUNJAB
124 10215 MUHAMMAD AWAIS ISHAQUE KPK
125 8322 YASIR FARHAD PUNJAB
126 5592 CHOUDHARY FAHAD BASHIR AJK.
127 6087 ITRAT ZAHARA PUNJAB
128 12532 HAFIZ ABRAR HUSSAIN PUNJAB
129 8951 MUHAMMAD WASIM TARIQ PUNJAB
130 353 HAFIZ WAQAS MAQSOOD PUNJAB
131 1360 ASIF RAZA PUNJAB
132 3026 MUHAMMAD HASSAN ABDULLAH MALIK PUNJAB
133 6837 MUHAMMAD NAVEED ASGHAR PUNJAB
134 3444 SALMAN KHAN PUNJAB
135 8160 TAUQIR MEHMOOD PUNJAB
136 3534 SAHIBZADA NAJEEBULLAH BALOCHISTAN
137 5554 BADAR AHSAN ULLAH PUNJAB
138 5177 AHMER BHATTI PUNJAB
139 1364 ATIF NAWAZ WARAICH PUNJAB
140 5940 HASSAN JAHANGIR PUNJAB
141 2876 MEHDI HASSAN GBFATA
142 12402 TARIQ HUSSAIN PUNJAB
143 5399 ARMAGHAN ARIF PUNJAB
144 7322 PIRZADA MEHMOOD HAIDER SHAH PUNJAB
145 7718 SANA SAIF TIRMAZEE PUNJAB
146 5628 FAHIM ALI PUNJAB
147 6431 MOHSIN ISLAM PUNJAB
148 5543 AZMAT ULLAH PUNJAB
149 924 KHAQAN MUKHTAR PUNJAB
150 6400 MIAN SHAHID ISHAQ PUNJAB
151 2574 FATIMA HAMDIA TANWEER BALOCHISTAN
152 11420 IHSAN ALI JAMALI BALOCHISTAN
153 2367 AQSA SHAUKAT CHATTHA PUNJAB
154 5673 FAIZAN MANZOOR CHEEMA PUNJAB
155 7004 MUHAMMAD UMER TAHIR PUNJAB
156 12529 GHULAM ABBAS PUNJAB
157 1396 HAROON ASHRAF PUNJAB
158 1193 TAHIR RIZWAN PUNJAB
159 4878 TAHA SALEEM SINDH ( U )
160 9335 USMAN NAZIR GILL PUNJAB
161 12469 ZULFIQAR ALI MALIK PUNJAB
162 5424 ASAD FAROOQ PUNJAB
163 10970 SHIRAZ ALI KPK
164 5212 AKHTAR ABBAS PUNJAB
165 10562 NEELUM SULTANA KHATTAK KPK
166 9295 MUHAMMAD ASIF AZEEM PUNJAB
167 2515 FAHAD AHMED PUNJAB
168 2456 AYESHA SALEEM MALIK SINDH ( U )
169 5200 AISHA KARAMAT PUNJAB
170 5439 ASADULLAH PUNJAB
171 6139 KAMRAN MAQSOOD PUNJAB
172 6817 MUHAMMAD NADEEM HAFEEZ PUNJAB
173 3888 AFAQUE AHMED SINDH ( R )
174 9102 SUMERA RAFIQ PUNJAB
175 6107 JAWAD AKBAR KHAN PUNJAB
176 11767 AHMED SHAKEEL BABAR AJK.
177 6448 MUBEEN SAEED PUNJAB
178 6349 MARYAM MALIK PUNJAB
179 7709 SANA KHALID PUNJAB
180 6495 MUHAMMAD ADIL FAREED PUNJAB
181 433 MUNAWAR ALI PUNJAB
182 6427 MOHSIN AMAN PUNJAB
183 10235 MUHAMMAD BILAL KHAN KPK
184 10968 SHERIN TARIQ KPK
185 4855 SYED MUHAMMAD RAZA NAQVI SINDH ( U )
186 5782 GHULAM JAFFAR AMIN PUNJAB
187 7025 MUHAMMAD USMAN SHAHID PUNJAB
188 3875 ADEEL MUMTAZ KHOKHAR SINDH ( R )
189 8064 SYED UMAIR HASSAN PUNJAB
190 11513 MUHAMMAD BEHRAM KHAN BALOCHISTAN
191 6438 MOSSAWER AHMAD KHAN PUNJAB
192 965 MUHAMMAD ADNAN BADAR PUNJAB
193 6594 MUHAMMAD ASIF PUNJAB
194 7798 SHAHBAZ KHAN PUNJAB
195 3798 ZARA MALIK PUNJAB
196 2928 MUHAMMAD ABDULLAH AMIN PUNJAB
197 9487 ALI QAIM KPK
198 1192 TAHIR MAHMOOD PUNJAB
199 8355 ZAHID IQBAL PUNJAB
200 1989 NAILA GUL SINDH ( U )
201 11927 HUMA RUQAYYA SAFDAR PUNJAB
202 3919 AKHTAR HUSSAIN SHAIKH SINDH ( R )
203 2950 MUHAMMAD ALI BANDIAL PUNJAB
204 6475 MUHAMMAD ABBAS PUNJAB
205 824 BILAL BIN ABDUL HAFEEZ PUNJAB
206 1745 DANISH QAMAR SINDH ( R )
207 1581 TOQEER ILYAS CHEEMA PUNJAB
208 8011 SYED ASHAR ABBAS ZAIDI PUNJAB
209 7757 SEHAR MANNOO PUNJAB
210 8305 WASEEM ABBAS PUNJAB
211 11745 ABIDA MARIAM PUNJAB
212 12083 MUHAMMAD JAMAL JANJUA PUNJAB
213 3557 SHIREEN HINA ASGHAR PUNJAB
214 9137 USMAN ALI MALIK PUNJAB
215 10897 SHAHBAZ KHAN KPK
216 2168 YASER HUSSAIN BHUTTO SINDH ( R )
217 6805 MUHAMMAD MUSA ALI BOKHARI PUNJAB
218 1582 USMAN MUMTAZ BUTT AJK.
219 9077 SHAGUFTA AMANAT PUNJAB
220 12708 TARIQ USMAN PUNJAB
221 7455 RASHID HUSSAIN PUNJAB
222 10578 NOOR REHMAN GBFATA
223 6299 MAMOONA GHAFOOR PUNJAB
224 920 KHALEEL AHMAD BUTT PUNJAB
225 2551 FARHAN ALI SINDH ( R )
226 5676 FAKHAR ABBAS KHAN PUNJAB
227 5750 FIDA HUSSAIN SOLANGI SINDH ( R )
228 4897 TAYYABA SHAFIQUE SINDH ( U )
229 5118 AFIA KHALID PUNJAB
230 7848 SHAIGAN IJAZ PUNJAB
231 339 DURR E SHAHWAR MALIK PUNJAB
232 5796 GHULAM SHABIR PUNJAB
233 3299 RABIA YUSUF PUNJAB
234 5845 HAFIZ MUHAMMAD MOHSIN MUNIR PUNJAB
235 11959 KAMRAN HAMID AJK.
236 2054 SAEED AHMED SINDH ( R )
237 9526 AMJAD MERAJ KPK
238 5362 AMNAH IMTIAZ PUNJAB
239 950 MISBAH BASHIR PUNJAB
240 385 MUHAMMAD ADEEL AKHTAR PUNJAB
241 6655 MUHAMMAD FAHAD AZEEM PUNJAB
242 11278 ABDUL GHAFOOR BALOCHISTAN
243 2043 RIAZ ALI MAITLO SINDH ( R )
244 8381 ZAINAB RANJHA PUNJAB
245 799 ASIM RAZA CHADHAR PUNJAB
246 7434 RANA SHAHER YAR PUNJAB
247 7420 RAMLA SAHIB DIN PUNJAB
248 5740 FAZAL ELAHI PUNJAB
249 9809 HAIDER ABBAS GBFATA
250 1264 MAQBOOL ALI GBFATA
251 5861 HAFIZ SHAHZAD MASOOD PUNJAB
252 5847 HAFIZ MUHAMMAD SALMAN SAEED PUNJAB
253 2817 M ADNAN ARJMAND PUNJAB
254 5951 HASSAN SHARIQ PUNJAB
255 4953 ZAHEER UDDIN BABAR SINDH ( R )
256 12042 MUHAMMAD ADNAN UR REHMAN PUNJAB
257 1120 SADAF MASOOD PUNJAB
258 2547 FARHAD ASLAM AJK.
259 10035 KASHIF HUSSAIN GBFATA
260 1977 MUSHTAQUE AHMED SINDH ( R )
261 11089 TARIQ MUHAMMAD KHAN KPK
262 4094 FARAH YAMIN KHAN SINDH ( U )
263 9966 IRUM SHAHEEN KPK
264 9056 SALEHA SHAHZAD PUNJAB
265 3731 USMAN WAHID PUNJAB
266 2311 ALI RAZA GHAURI PUNJAB
267 12880 AMNA SHAH SINDH ( R )
268 6736 MUHAMMAD IQBAL PUNJAB
269 12450 ZAHRA ALEEM PUNJAB
270 6184 KHALIQ DAD PUNJAB
271 1566 SOHAIB NAZIR CHATTHA PUNJAB
272 3642 SYED MUHAMMAD SHARIQUE TANWEER BALOCHISTAN
273 1627 ABDUL RAUF MAHAR SINDH ( U )
274 3221 NASIR MEHMOOD PUNJAB
275 5617 FAHAD ASHRAF PUNJAB
276 9833 HAROON SALEEM KPK
277 6808 MUHAMMAD MUTHAR AMIN HAYAT WATTOO PUNJAB
278 10350 MUHAMMAD NAEEM KHAN KPK
279 9058 SALMA SHAHEEN PUNJAB
280 6310 MAQBOOL HASSAN KPK
281 4117 FIDA HUSSAIN SINDH ( U )
282 803 ASMA IQBAL PUNJAB
283 7041 MUHAMMAD WAQAS ASLAM PUNJAB

[B]Open Merit vs. Quota[/B]

Punjab - 210 (Quota - 109 + Merit - 14)
KPK - 25 (Quota - 27 + Merit - 1)
Sindh - 18 (Quota - 32)
Sindh U - 10 (Quota - 55)
Balochistan - 6 (Quota - 17)
GBFATA - 9 (Quota - 13 + Merit - 1)
AJK - 5 (Quota - 4)

I hope this explains why quota is necessary.

[QUOTE=Anønymøus;630828]There should be only one row [b]All Pakistan Merit[/b] in this notification, do not know why these exams are called [b]Competitive Exams[/b] ![/QUOTE]

Brother, we have already lost East Pakistan. One of their major grievances was under representation in public services. So, in order to preclude another "fall of Dhaka" quota system is necessary.
Read 16th amendment to 1973 constitution.
:)

Regional quota is understandable, but 10% quota for women is totally gender discrimination. We all know that women can compete with men and it is quite clear from the above mentioned list, then why there is 10% quota for them?
We often observe that a male candidate having merit no around 250 is not allocated while a female candidate having merit no.550 is allocated.

[QUOTE=VetDoctor;630967]Regional quota is understandable, but 10% quota for women is totally gender discrimination. We all know that women can compete with men and it is quite clear from the above mentioned list, then why there is 10% quota for them?
We often observe that a male candidate having merit no around 250 is not allocated while a female candidate having merit no.550 is allocated.[/QUOTE]

It is because, women literacy in Pakistan is comparatively low than male. you will find women are competing men in urban areas only, but in rural areas, they are asked to sit at homes and finally are sent to in laws. THAT'S IT END OF THE STORY...

Exactly.If u have same level of education in whole country than quota system is not necessary but in pakistan there is a huge difference

Mini:
Total no. Of seats for 2012 are 198, the rest ie 49 are carried over seats from previous years. The carried over seats remain in the same quota in which they were announced. So, AJk cannot have a carried over seat of panjab or sindh.
As far as AJk is concerned, you should be thankful to ED.
2% of 198= 3.96 rounded to 4
Whereas for GBFAtA : 4% of 198 =7.92 is rounded to 7.
And as far as quota for territories and provinces is concerned, it is on the basis of population, so that every region of Pakistan is represented in public services as per it's population. If doesn't have anything to do with educational facilities.
And as far as educational facilities are concerned, I welcome you to visit tribal areas, your this misconception would be cleared.

[QUOTE=Psycho Empire;631040]Mini:
And as far as quota for territories and provinces is concerned, it is on the basis of population, so that every region of Pakistan is represented in public services as per it's population. If doesn't have anything to do with educational facilities.
[/QUOTE]
It has little bit to do with education, otherwise there would have been no Sindh Rural and Sindh Arban system, and may be in near future, fpsc could announce Punjab Rural and Arban system.

[QUOTE] and as far as educational facilities are concerned, I welcome you to visit tribal areas, your this misconception would be cleared.[/QUOTE]

And, you must also visit Villages of Sindh and Punjab or Balochistan, where you can't even think of primary education, only ghost schools are there. because Schools are used as a marriage hall by respective Waderaas.

[QUOTE=Psycho Empire;631040]Mini:
Total no. Of seats for 2012 are 198, the rest ie 49 are carried over seats from previous years. The carried over seats remain in the same quota in which they were announced. So, AJk cannot have a carried over seat of panjab or sindh.
As far as AJk is concerned, you should be thankful to ED.
2% of 198= [B][SIZE="5"]3.96 rounded to 4[/SIZE][/B]
[B][SIZE="5"]Whereas for GBFAtA : 4% of 198 =7.92 is rounded to 7. [/SIZE][/B]
And as far as quota for territories and provinces is concerned, it is on the basis of population, so that every region of Pakistan is represented in public services as per it's population. If doesn't have anything to do with educational facilities.
And as far as educational facilities are concerned, I welcome you to visit tribal areas, your this misconception would be cleared.[/QUOTE]

why 7.92 is rounded to 07, why not 08.
Isn't it sheer injustice?

[QUOTE=VetDoctor;631206]why 7.92 is rounded to 07, why not 08.
Isn't it sheer injustice?[/QUOTE]

I think it is not injustice. It has more to do with how numbers are rounded off so yes 3.96 when rounded off, becomes 4. This is not the case with 7.92 (for the 2 on the right of decimal is not greater than 5).

[QUOTE=Fatima47;631279]I think it is not injustice. It has more to do with how numbers are rounded off so yes 3.96 when rounded off, becomes 4. This is not the case with 7.92 (for the 2 on the right of decimal is not greater than 5).[/QUOTE]
@fatima47
dear you know exactly how decimals are rounded off when they exceed the threshold of 5..if this is the case, they way u are saying, then women quota that becomes 0.7 must be rounded off to ZERO not 2...Something must have gone wrong here...its Sheer Injustice what we see here...somebody must take notice of it..!!!

[QUOTE=VetDoctor;631206]why 7.92 is rounded to 07, why not 08.
Isn't it sheer injustice?[/QUOTE]
Dear there is a mechanism for rounding off the decimals in calculation of merit. it is not done as simple asthmatics, see how it is calculated, for example in one year when we round off 3.70 to 4, the next year, .30 is deducted from quota of that area like if the next year share if 4.89 we will minus .4 and that would become 4.49. in same way when 4.45 is rounded off to 4, the next year we add .45 to the merit share. hope i made it clear.

[QUOTE]Merit no. 211 female Punjab.Any chances of allocation ? and in which group?[/QUOTE][QUOTE]Merit no. 159 female Punjab.chances of allocation ? and in which group?[/QUOTE]there are many confusions regarding calculation of woman quota. however, simple is that calculate 12 girls from where the allocation stops for open merit in punjab. there are chances of allocation of both the girls. All the best

[QUOTE=mubeen saeed;631916]Dear there is a mechanism for rounding off the decimals in calculation of merit. it is not done as simple asthmatics, see how it is calculated, for example in one year when we round off 3.70 to 4, the next year, .30 is deducted from quota of that area like if the next year share if 4.89 we will minus .4 and that would become 4.49. in same way when 4.45 is rounded off to 4, the next year we add .45 to the merit share. hope i made it clear.[/QUOTE]

Sir you are right, but why the qualified candidates bear the brunt of previous year rounding off.
Secondly one seat for minorities has been allocated in GB/FATA, although the ED and FPSC knew that there is no qualified candidate related to minority. this seat should have been added to open merit seats of GB/FATA.

[QUOTE=mubeen saeed;631916]Dear there is a mechanism for rounding off the decimals in calculation of merit. it is not done as simple asthmatics, see how it is calculated, for example in one year when we round off 3.70 to 4, the next year, .30 is deducted from quota of that area like if the next year share if 4.89 we will minus .4 and that would become 4.49. in same way when 4.45 is rounded off to 4, the next year we add .45 to the merit share. hope i made it clear.

there are many confusions regarding calculation of woman quota. however, simple is that calculate 12 girls from where the allocation stops for open merit in punjab. there are chances of allocation of both the girls. All the best[/QUOTE]

Salam dear sir,

I have chances of being allocated in OMG InshAllah.Please let me know the perks and privileges of a commoner during CTP and STP .

Regards

[QUOTE=VetDoctor;631972]Sir you are right, but why the qualified candidates bear the brunt of previous year rounding off.
Secondly one seat for minorities has been allocated in GB/FATA, although the ED and FPSC knew that there is no qualified candidate related to minority. this seat should have been added to open merit seats of GB/FATA.[/QUOTE]
i respect your point of view, but this is how the system is. simple arithmetic rounding off compel for creation of new posts as there are many shares in quota system and rounding off would make things complicated instead of simplifying.

[QUOTE=mechrose37;631991]Salam dear sir,

I have chances of being allocated in OMG InshAllah.Please let me know the perks and privileges of a commoner during CTP and STP .

Regards[/QUOTE]
A Warm Welcome to OMG!
plz keep one thing in mind, there is always a trade off among the opportunities you get, every profession and in this case group has its own plus and negatives. there are not many perks and privileges in the beginning of the career in OMG. i hope things will get improved with the passage of time. All the best!

that would depend upon the composition ie from which province they belong and their preferences of top 25.

Quota
 

[quote="Last Island"]Then 75% of the seats will go to Punjab. Only few people from other provinces, lower in merit will get allocated.[/quote]

[quote="Psycho Empire"]Brother, we have already lost East Pakistan. One of their major grievances was under representation in public services. So, in order to preclude another "fall of Dhaka" quota system is necessary.[/quote]

There is no question of saying that without quota such %age of people from a specific province will get major share. This is competition not distribution.

If in a school three students of same family get the first three positions, can we say that their should be family wise quota for positions otherwise children of same family will always get all the share of prizes. No we can't, because everyone was in the competition and one who has worked hard had got the prize.

Have we ever observed quota in regular commission of any armed force? No, because they believe one who runs fast will win the race irrespective of his cast, & geographic background.

In the same way no one is stopping people of a specific province no to get first 100 positions in CSS. Any one who has competed the rest, must be in his place whether he is from Sindh, Punjab, KPK, Baluchistan, or FATA.

Every one has his own views and ways of analyzing.

[QUOTE=Anønymøus;637505]There is no question of saying that without quota such %age of people from a specific province will get major share. This is competition not distribution.

If in a school three students of same family get the first three positions, can we say that their should be family wise quota for positions otherwise children of same family will always get all the share of prizes. No we can't, because everyone was in the competition and one who has worked hard had got the prize.

Have we ever observed quota in regular commission of any armed force? No, because they believe one who runs fast will win the race irrespective of his cast, & geographic background.

In the same way no one is stopping people of a specific province no to get first 100 positions in CSS. Any one who has competed the rest, must be in his place whether he is from Sindh, Punjab, KPK, Baluchistan, or FATA.

Every one has his own views and ways of analyzing.[/QUOTE]

My dear, first of all this is not a school. This is a country, a democratic country, where all the citizens have equal rights, equal position, and equal power of decision, but alas, no equal education. Well fine, I am not going to enter into the terribly complex topic of education, but there are many other reasons that clearly lead to the system of quota. I have told you about some of the equalities but there are a number of inequalities too, the ones that can not actually be called as inequalities, but the traditional differences. I hope you might have the background scenario of the differences I am talking about, in Sindh, Balochistan, FATA, KPK, and in even Southern Punjab. These traditional differences lead the people to a complex life, though they have the right to compete in any part of competition in this country, that is what I guess Democracy is. Giving each and every individual an equal opportunity to avail any type of opportunity. These problematic and disturbing situations lead the law-makers to nothing but quota system.

Talking about the Army. I would say I was really amused by hearing what you said up there. It is an open-secret that quota system is indisputably followed in Pak Army, not provincially but ethnically. I am really sorry if my words offend anyone's personal interests, but the broad view witnesses that Army favors Punjab and Northern Areas, for specific reasons though. I am not going to put up any example, just take a view of list of all the Generals since the beginning.

Quota system is a necessary tool in most of the third world countries to encourage every individual belonging to any part of the state. Specially the countries having mixture of living standards and lifestyle opportunities. Fortunately and unfortunately as well, Pakistan is one of them, where educated people are trying to develop catastrophic conditions by making a dispute over unnecessary things. CSS is no doubt a competitive exam, but yes, the Luck-Factor in this exam that we all have heard of, since our childhood, is only due to this quota system. Well no offense, anybody can avail this opportunity, and succeed, if these absurd things are kept out of mind.

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[QUOTE=FrostFlame;637795]My dear, first of all this is not a school. This is a country, a democratic country, where all the citizens have equal rights, equal position, and equal power of decision, but alas, no equal education. Well fine, I am not going to enter into the terribly complex topic of education, but there are many other reasons that clearly lead to the system of quota. I have told you about some of the equalities but there are a number of inequalities too, the ones that can not actually be called as inequalities, but the traditional differences. I hope you might have the background scenario of the differences I am talking about, in Sindh, Balochistan, FATA, KPK, and in even Southern Punjab. These traditional differences lead the people to a complex life, though they have the right to compete in any part of competition in this country, that is what I guess Democracy is. Giving each and every individual an equal opportunity to avail any type of opportunity. These problematic and disturbing situations lead the law-makers to nothing but quota system.

Talking about the Army. I would say I was really amused by hearing what you said up there. It is an open-secret that quota system is indisputably followed in Pak Army, not provincially but ethnically. I am really sorry if my words offend anyone's personal interests, but the broad view witnesses that Army favors Punjab and Northern Areas, for specific reasons though. I am not going to put up any example, just take a view of list of all the Generals since the beginning.

Quota system is a necessary tool in most of the third world countries to encourage every individual belonging to any part of the state. Specially the countries having mixture of living standards and lifestyle opportunities. Fortunately and unfortunately as well, Pakistan is one of them, where educated people are trying to develop catastrophic conditions by making a dispute over unnecessary things. CSS is no doubt a competitive exam, but yes, the Luck-Factor in this exam that we all have heard of, since our childhood, is only due to this quota system. Well no offense, anybody can avail this opportunity, and succeed, if these absurd things are kept out of mind.[/QUOTE][list=1][*]Examples are made to elaborate the concept, not for real situation replacement.[*]We are talking about officially declared policies, not for hidden or open secrets which may or may not exist. As per disclosed policy there is no quota in regular commission of any armed force.[*]For low living standards, low educational facilities in some geographic areas, we have provincial public service commissions and many other things. Competition at Federal Level should be free of this crap.[*]There is difference between disagreement and failing to understand of other side views, I with no offence feel that you lie in second category.[/list]

[QUOTE=Anønymøus;637853][list=1][*]Examples are made to elaborate the concept, not for real situation replacement.[*]We are talking about officially declared policies, not for hidden or open secrets which may or may not exist. As per disclosed policy there is no quota in regular commission of any armed force.[*]For low living standards, low educational facilities in some geographic areas, we have provincial public service commissions and many other things. Competition at Federal Level should be free of this crap.[*]There is difference between disagreement and failing to understand of other side views, I with no offence feel that you lie in second category.[/list][/QUOTE]

No doubt that the examples are to elaborate the concept, but atleast they should make a logical sense with the real concept so that the examples are not challenged.

Well whatever, its not about in which category I lie. I hope you lie in a better one, and you must think of those unprivileged too, who would be totally discouraged and would be left with no easy opportunities if the quota system is abolished. By the way, I do agree that this quota system is somehow benefiting some specific groups unnecessarily.

I am not discussing this issue for any fight or my personal interest, if this system is abolished, no doubt I'll be having even more chances of allocation.

May Allah bless this country.

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[QUOTE=FrostFlame;638006]I hope you lie in a better one, and you must think of those unprivileged too, who would be totally discouraged and would be left with no easy opportunities if the quota system is abolished.[/QUOTE]

So from your said words, we can conclude that we are mitigating, results (discouragement, lack of opportunities, etc) of our system flaws (corruption, inefficiency, etc) by giving quota in competition, which is obviously not just.

Yes, May the Lord bless this country.

Can anyone please tell the average trend,how many candidates on average every year do not join their allocated gropus..if punjab merit ended at 147,whats the chances of candidates after 147.

[QUOTE=officr;640181]Can anyone please tell the average trend,how many candidates on average every year do not join their allocated gropus..if punjab merit ended at 147,whats the chances of candidates after 147.[/QUOTE]

hardly 1 or 2 from Punjab will not join. I think merit upto 149 have a bit chance but that is not confirmed. :thinking

thanks shami sb , do you have any idea how many candidates did not join last year i,e 2011 and their seats passed on to others ?

[QUOTE=officr;640214]thanks shami sb , do you have any idea how many candidates did not join last year i,e 2011 and their seats passed on to others ?[/QUOTE]
last year 1 candidate did not joined

Merit 132 will not join. He has already been selected in PMS 2012.

Are you sure?
Merit no 132 syed usman munir bukhari

He is not on pms 2011 list.

[QUOTE=silverfox;640292]Are you sure?
Merit no 132 syed usman munir bukhari

He is not on pms 2011 list.[/QUOTE]
Usman Munir Bokhari grabbed 27th position in PMS 2012-13.........He is not going to join OMG...............

Another candidate, Ahmed Saeed Manj at merit Number 97, has also qualified PMS 2012-13.........I m not sure but there are fair chances of him, not joining.........

@ silverfox
Of course it is certain that merit 132 of CSS will not join. He considers PMS better than OMG. Recent postings of PMS officers have also proved his stance. Just after three years of training they are posted as Assistant Commissioner. Uzair Bin Rafi might also not join. He has a well settled business in Spain. But I am not sure about him. Having communicated with him, I'll inform you through this worthy forum.