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COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION (CSS) - 2013



Candidate Name : SALMAN HANIF KHAN
Roll No: 14242

COMPULSORY SUBJECTS
Subject
Total Marks
Passing Marks
Marks Obtained
Total Marks
Accepted
Essay 100 40 40 40 40
English 100 40 52 52 52
General Knowledge 300 120
GK1 (Everyday Science) 100 62
GK2 (Current Affairs) 100 57
GK3 (Pakistan Affairs) 100 60 179 179
Islamiat 100 40 70 70 70

OPTIONAL SUBJECTS
Subject
Total Marks
Passing Marks
Marks Obtained
Total Marks
Accepted
Journalism 100 33 68 68 68
Chemistry 200 66
Paper A 51
Paper B 73 124 124
British History 200 66
Paper A 61
Paper B 63 124 124
Musilm LAW and Jurisprudance 100 33 25 25 00
Total Marks
657

i think fpsc has made a big error here
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According to RULES FOR COMPETITIVE EXAMINATION CSS-2013

Page 3 Article 11 (i)

The Commission with prior approval of the Government may fix qualifying marks in any or all of the subjects of the examination but a candidate who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of optional subjects, 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks in Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.
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Rule has changed I suppose. Let me quote:

QUALIFYING MARKS

11. (i) The Commission with prior approval of the Government may fix qualifying marks in any or all of the subjects of the examination but a candidate who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of the optional subjects, 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks at the Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.
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Rule has changed I suppose. Let me quote:

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11. (i) The Commission with prior approval of the Government may fix qualifying marks in any or all of the subjects of the examination but a candidate who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of the optional subjects, 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks at the Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.
Sis this same rule was enact for 2009/10/11/12/13 and there are many candidates who were failed in one of their options but were called for interview infact two of the examples i may quote ...Css 2012 Aijaz Ali ZArdari 691 total and interview 210 with IR failed 23 marks ...and then we have Muhammad Afzal Kolachi of 38th Commons who was failed in muslim law but yet he was allocated to IG group ... i think its better for me to talk to the chairman of fpsc directly
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Sis this same rule was enact for 2009/10/11/12/13 and there are many candidates who were failed in one of their options but were called for interview infact two of the examples i may quote ...Css 2012 Aijaz Ali ZArdari 691 total and interview 210 with IR failed 23 marks ...and then we have Muhammad Afzal Kolachi of 38th Commons who was failed in muslim law but yet he was allocated to IG group ... i think its better for me to talk to the chairman of fpsc directly
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(who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of the optional subjects, OR 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks at the Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.)

If you check previous rule, then you will notice "Or" which is not present in rule of 2013. It means that if a candidate fails in any optional, then he will be considered as Fail.
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(who fails to secure at least 40% marks in any compulsory subject, 33% marks in any of the optional subjects, OR 50% marks in the Aggregate and 100 marks at the Viva Voce, will be considered to have failed and will not be eligible for appointment.)

If you check previous rule, then you will notice "Or" which is not present in rule of 2013. It means that if a candidate fails in any optional, then he will be considered as Fail.
This simple OR won't demoralize me and that too just a single optional subject taking away my dreams and 7 years of hard work i ll see fpsc either politely or in court .. May Allah be with me
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i think you have a case. they probably made a mistake. you should not have been declared failed per my understanding. it says "prior approval" that means that government should have made a formal approval. that should be available in a file and on note sheet.
you should first file an appeal with the fpsc chairman, then you have to go up. that is the legal way to go. dont go directly to a court. ask a lawyer.
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good luck nate . though i dont know you but i wish you the best of luck in this regard . Allah keray keh politely hi kam ho jayee . its true that a simple OR should not change the fate of anyone because we aren't lawyers that read the rules word by word and interpret them . so a benefit of doubt must be given to you in this case atleast for this time (2013). also fpsc would not have a burden by giving you a pardon as at the most 2 or 3 candidates would have such a case .
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good luck nate . though i dont know you but i wish you the best of luck in this regard . Allah keray keh politely hi kam ho jayee . its true that a simple OR should not change the fate of anyone because we aren't lawyers that read the rules word by word and interpret them . so a benefit of doubt must be given to you in this case atleast for this time (2013). also fpsc would not have a burden by giving you a pardon as at the most 2 or 3 candidates would have such a case .
thnx a lot brother for ur all out support ..yes definitely i ll be contacting fpsc and if need arise i ll be coming to islamabad and will beseech a meeting with the chairman
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