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Hilarious! Guys, they do not fail you in Essay and Preicis because of your English writing skills. It's a pretty random process. And failing one in Essay, to an extent, is comprehensible. It depends on the whims of the examiner.

But surely, the precis exam is not checked properly. The exam script is not checked in its entirety. The examiner skims through your precis, makes up his mind and assigns a total score without going through the rest of the paper.

PS: People who cannot even write two proper sentences of English have passed both precis and essay. So kindly stop saying that you need to have perfect English!
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Hilarious! Guys, they do not fail you in Essay and Preicis because of your English writing skills. It's a pretty random process. And failing one in Essay, to an extent, is comprehensible. It depends on the whims of the examiner.

But surely, the precis exam is not checked properly. The exam script is not checked in its entirety. The examiner skims through your precis, makes up his mind and assigns a total score without going through the rest of the paper.

PS: People who cannot even write two proper sentences of English have passed both precis and essay. So kindly stop saying that you need to have perfect English!
Hey gintino remember my essay. They awarded me 20 marks
my precis was also given 20 marks (13/20 mcqs, 3 correction, 4 punctuatios, 4 pow, 2 idioms were correct) 😂 despite the fact that I passed essay once and precis twice in CSS. Previously I qualified written part of pms, AD ministry of defence, tehsildar and tehsil municipal officer test as well. My English, however, deterioted and fell below CSS standard.
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Hey gintino remember my essay. They awarded me 20 marks
my precis was also given 20 marks (13/20 mcqs, 3 correction, 4 punctuatios, 4 pow, 2 idioms were correct) 😂 despite the fact that I passed essay once and precis twice in CSS. Previously I qualified written part of pms, AD ministry of defence, tehsildar and tehsil municipal officer test as well. My English, however, deterioted and fell below CSS standard.
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I was thinking that if my English is so weak, then why PPSC passed my essay and composition papers of PMS two times? These both are competition exams, but in PMS I secured 45 marks in essay, but only 33 in CSS.
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I was thinking that if my English is so weak, then why PPSC passed my essay and composition papers of PMS two times? These both are competition exams, but in PMS I secured 45 marks in essay, but only 33 in CSS.
The reason lies in why all four sons and 2 nephews of Dr. Liaqat Niazi are in PMS while none of them could ever qualify the written of CSS. The reason lies in topper of PMS 2011 Nazia Mohal failing all three attempts of CSS while topping in PMS, her sister Zeba Mohal also failing the CSS thrice while she is in service in Punjab, the reason lies in her brother becoming a provincial officer but never passed the CSS.

PMS has such lowest criteria that those who cannot do CSS can surely do PMS.

P.S: Btw if you passed PMS two times, you should be a PMS officer by now.
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@Aadil786, thanks for acquainting. As you said I have also sent the same to Mr. Naveed Akram Cheema, but didn't mention that it's a carbon copy.

My request to all is that they also participate by sending petitions.

Are we still being ruled by Britain that their main focus is just English? If it's so, then instead of offering bureaucracy to native Pakistanis, government should offer bureaucracy to British or Americans. As we are native Pakitanis so Urdu style will reflect from our English. If there standard is only English language, then why FPSC takes other ten papers? In this case they only take English and essay paper and only IELTS pass would be allowed to appear in CSS exam.

When in our universities we are not taught English of this standard, then why they expect so from candidates?
I have 8 bands in IELTS. Still of no use !

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That's not good, you do not harken to my sincere advice. I had told you to work on your own flaws and become too best to be ignored by FPSC. This is sheer ignominy on your part that instead of raising yourself to these standards where you can ace the exam, you are asking FPSC to lower their standards. You are treading on wrong path and instigating others to do the same.

As a civil servant myself, I would never want the FPSC to lower their standards to that of Board exams where people are securing 99% marks, this is a competitive exam for God sake, they do not grade you for little thing you have put on the paper, rather they penalize you for the blunders you make. The examiners is tasked with failing all those who are not commensurate with the level of CSS.

I would reiterate my advice to all of you. Please do focus on your mistakes. Instead of asking the mountain top to come down to earth, climb the mountain and reach the top; former is impossible but later can be made possible with your hard work and commitment.
We think vice versa;FPSC's standard has been declining for a few years and we just want to see it transparent and fair enough to be trusted upon.

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My senior has not given any corroboration, it's just an opinion, while I have you logical and rational thought. Now if you have little prudence then you would get to the point.

You could not do in three attempts, while I have many friends who have qualified twice and thrice,successful people take responsibility rather accuse others. A bad workman always blames his tools.
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If you contend that English is not a standard to judge the abilities of the aspirants, then taking your logic further, Urdu should be the medium of competitive examination!!! It's sad to see that headstrong approach, you still are adamant that FPSC must lower it's standards, rather you put some effort and raise yourself to their standards. Finding faults with others is easier than improving yourself.

You people are harping on the same string time and again, FPSC is there to select the best lot from the crowd, if someone is coming to their standards then he is passed, if not then he fails, simple is that. It's not a matruc exam that they should pass everyone with 90%+ marks, it's a competitive exam where you will only pass if you are better than others.
And you are harping on the string that seems connected to FPSC officials !

Yes,it's not MATRUC exam .lol 41st commoner!

Correction please: Where you will be SELECTED if you are better than others.
It seems ridiculous that the examiners compare thousands of papers (or do balloting) and then pass the best ones?
I strongly object to this foolish stance.Each paper is whole in itself.If it meets a specific standard and answers are justified ,the examiner must pass the candidates.Better ones are chosen in interviews where the panel keeps the marks sheets of candidates and evaluates them verbally and psychologically.Written exam is not meant to pass or fail the candidates in comparison to each other .It's done on the basis of their performance.

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The reason lies in why all four sons and 2 nephews of Dr. Liaqat Niazi are in PMS while none of them could ever qualify the written of CSS. The reason lies in topper of PMS 2011 Nazia Mohal failing all three attempts of CSS while topping in PMS, her sister Zeba Mohal also failing the CSS thrice while she is in service in Punjab, the reason lies in her brother becoming a provincial officer but never passed the CSS.

PMS has such lowest criteria that those who cannot do CSS can surely do PMS.

P.S: Btw if you passed PMS two times, you should be a PMS officer by now.
Now this is harsh, 41st commoner of FPSC! You can just say there is MORE corruption in PPSC than that of FPSC.We don't know ,in the recent result how many sons,daughters and nephews of honorable politicians or influential CSPs have been passed along with some deserving candidates.
By the way you mentioned about the topper PMS 2011 so she must have taken CSS before it.This is what we are making noise about.In past years CSS has been credible institution but now it's losing its fairness and transparency.

I am really interested in knowing your name,officer! Commoners don't hide their names after all they deserve to be known.So?
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We think vice versa;FPSC's standard has been declining for a few years and we just want to see it transparent and fair enough to be trusted upon.
Their declining of standard is betokened by low pass percentage? I also believe in vice versa, Its standard has improved over the years. Your standard of transparency match Imran Khan's, he only believes the elections to be transparent if he wins, I believe FPSC is still fair if it does not pass you or a large number of candidates.

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If you win pride is all yours and if you lose ,"you deserve it!" Some people are lucky enough to win the gamble! We just want it to behave like an institution not like a gambling club.
I think if its gamble, 1 out of 3 attempts at least you do somehow win, but many people are out there who have won it third and second time. If you cannot win it even once, not even pass the written, then it should not be termed as a gamble; rather your own faults must be accepted.

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And you are harping on the string that seems connected to FPSC officials !

Yes,it's not MATRUC exam .lol 41st commoner!
Seems connected to the FPSC officials. Lol.
Ma'am, they do not know any other, nor FPSC is their personal institution so that they may be connected the such things. They are indifferent people, just do their job like all other government departments. Stop being cynical, act rational.
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Correction please: Where you will be SELECTED if you are better than others.
It seems ridiculous that the examiners compare thousands of papers (or do balloting) and then pass the best ones?
I strongly object to this foolish stance.Each paper is whole in itself.If it meets a specific standard and answers are justified ,the examiner must pass the candidates.Better ones are chosen in interviews where the panel keeps the marks sheets of candidates and evaluates them verbally and psychologically.Written exam is not meant to pass or fail the candidates in comparison to each other .It's done on the basis of their performance.
Yes this is exactly what they do, they pass all those who meet a specific standard, the thing is the standards are too high to be met by majority of the people.

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Now this is harsh, 41st commoner of FPSC! You can just say there is MORE corruption in PPSC than that of FPSC.We don't know ,in the recent result how many sons,daughters and nephews of honorable politicians or influential CSPs have been passed along with some deserving candidates.
By the way you mentioned about the topper PMS 2011 so she must have taken CSS before it.This is what we are making noise about.In past years CSS has been credible institution but now it's losing its fairness and transparency.

I am really interested in knowing your name,officer! Commoners don't hide their names after all they deserve to be known.So?
I don't get exactly what you mean in this paragraph. Now this vagueness is exactly where you lose. About my identity, commoners are known to the commoners, had you been a commoner, you would have known me already.
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Have sent to Chairman Senate, Chairman FPSC, Prime Minister, and Chief Justice for suo motu notice. Lets see now what happens.
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