Friday, March 29, 2024
03:57 AM (GMT +5)

Go Back   CSS Forums > CSS Datesheets and Results > Previous CSS Results and Datesheets > CSS News

Reply Share Thread: Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook     Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter     Submit Thread to Google+ Google+    
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
Muzzamil's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Jehlum
Posts: 121
Thanks: 60
Thanked 141 Times in 77 Posts
Muzzamil will become famous soon enough
Default Critics raise objection to FPSC exams credibility-The News

Critics raise objection to FPSC exams credibility
Shakeel Anjum-The News (December 20, 2013)

Echo of objections over the CSS Examination-2013 is being raised from different quarters all over the country, creating ambiguity in the course of the credible competitive examination, probably, for the first time in the history of the country.

The resound of the criticism over the competitive examination, could be heard in the corridors of the Parliaments House and the lawmakers are thinking to address the matter.

The people raising objections are of the view that on one hand the state of Pakistan faces acute scarcity of brilliant minds in districts administration, police and revenue departments on the other hand the result of CSS-Examinations, 2013 does not only raise the eye brows of many but also, it badly damages the credibility of FPSC and educational institutions in the country.

“Even during British rule, the competence and objectivity of superior civil servants was invariably considered the only criterion for their selection so that they can deliver justice, eradicate crimes and maintain law and order all over British domain. After Pakistan’s independence, the superior civil servants were primarily supposed to be competent and nationally as well as humanly spirited souls to ensure good governance and better future to the new sovereign nation. History of nearly seven decades of misrule in Pakistan out rightly negates this prerequisite for selection of CSP Officers through FPSC.

Recently announced result of CSS-Written Examinations, 2013 produces extremely depressive conclusion, perilously damaging our national cohesion in the future, which is already under emerging constraints. According to it, out of 11,480 candidates appeared in the written CSS-Exam, 2013, only 238 candidates have been declared as qualified, which is 2.7 per cent of the total candidates. Although, the CSS written exam held in February, 2013 was initially infested with notorious scandal of Faisalabad centre where the examination-papers were leaked in connivance of examiners, custodians and overseers, yet the main characteristics of the long-awaited, controversial too, result nullifies tall claims of honesty, secrecy, transparency and accountability FPSC usually brags off,” the people, raising objections, maintained.

Originally, 15,998 applied but 11,406 actually appeared in the written exam, however, only 172 male and 66 female candidates qualified the exam, totalling only 238. Some failed candidates on CSS Forum have posted alarming data, which has not so far been rebutted by FPSC, according to which 98 qualified candidates belongs to Lahore, 36 Islamabad, 14 Faisalabad, 15 Rawalpindi, 12 Multan, 1 Sargodha and 1 Sialkot, numbering as much as 165 from Central Punjab and only 12 from entire South Punjab. Similarly, among the qualified candidates of Sindh, 12 belong to Karachi, 2 to Larkana and 2 to Sukkhar. Only 8 qualified candidates appearing on Balochistan domicile belong to Quetta while the entire province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) has only 3 lucky candidates who belong to Peshawar and Abbottabad.

In nutshell, the entire province of Sindh finds no representation in the future civil bureaucracy except 12 from Karachi while 2 each from Larkana and Sukkhar, which makes negligible impact. The entire Balochistan, except Quetta, finds no room in the slot of the future ruling elite and the same is with the KP that has 3 successful candidates belonging to Peshawar and Abbottabad.

Even if the candidates have been selected on merit, the ultimate outcome of the result shall cost grave impact on the minds of the unemployed but educated youth of the under-developed area having no educational facilities at par with Lahore, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, and Karachi. However, this is not the case of natural deprivation because the standard FPSC applied for marking and selection of the candidates evidently shows many loop-holes, showing vital discrepancies in the system and standard of marking as it is gravely self-contradictory. For instance, the candidates who obtained more than 650 marks have been declared failed but those who have secured only 600 marks being passed in all subjects are declared passed.

Likewise, a large number of the unsuccessful candidates are passed in “Essay” are failed in “Précis” and those who are passed in “Précis” but failed in “Essay”. It is appalling to note that the components of “English Précis and Composition” paper not only include ideas summation but also idea expansion. It further includes language skills test encompassing vocabulary and grammar test. Evidently, if a candidate passes this paper while failing essay, it is indicative of the fact that either the language skills were not properly tested in “Précis” paper or the essay paper was not effectively marked. Not only that but also the sequence of the passing candidates according to their Roll Nos. is amazingly interesting. Out of 617 from Roll No.1 to 617, only 4 candidates are passed but 4 candidates out of only 33 candidates from Roll No.618 to 667 are passed while the result of three more candidates having Roll No614, 638 and 667 has been held up. Despite sequential scepticism in the passed candidates, there are some mysterious pairs. For instance, Muhammad Imran and Muhammad Irfan Roll No.618 and Roll No. 619, respectively are among the passed candidates. Another pair of the lucky candidates having roll no.11216 and 11217 are among 238 candidates declared qualified.

Generally, FPSC blames the universities in its annual reports for poor results of the candidates but it considers itself far beyond scrutiny and accountability. If audit of the performance of their chosen ruling elite, FPSC shall be the national institution giving the nation the army of incapable, arrogant and dishonest superior civil servants who have led this country in unending peril.

The spokesman for the FPSC, Rameez Ahmad, when contacted by this scribe to seek his comments, rebuffing the objections raised by the critics, said that paper marking was not job of FPSC and the FPSC could not evaluate it. He said that the FPSC selects the panel of examiner with tough criteria who check papers. “We cannot ask the examiners to increase the marks of any candidate,” the spokesman said adding, “This is a subjective approach, not objective.” Responding to a question, Rameez said that the standard of graduation has transformed and now the graduates have degree of equal to masters as they get degree after 4 years instead of two years. “Doctors and engineers are graduates too,” he maintained.

Source:http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-New...o-FPSC-exams-c
__________________
"Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently." (Henry Ford)
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Muzzamil For This Useful Post:
Descendant of Saul (Friday, December 20, 2013), mohsinali303 (Thursday, January 02, 2014), SehrishKanwal (Friday, December 20, 2013), usmanwrites (Friday, December 20, 2013)
  #2  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
usmanwrites's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 368
Thanks: 158
Thanked 209 Times in 157 Posts
usmanwrites is on a distinguished road
Default

This is sheer injustice rather crime against southern punjab. If sindh can be divided in rural and urban why can't punjab?
Who will present 6 points for southern punjab or relegated sraikis
Thr abundance resources of fertile land of Southern punjab are sucked by elite leeches of upper punjab almost same was the case with Bangladesh.
Almost 3 crore people speak sraiki but it doesn't show up neither in CSS or PMS optionals :o
What the government want us to do ? Form a SLA sraiki liberation army ????

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to usmanwrites For This Useful Post:
Muhammad Daniyal Khalek (Wednesday, April 09, 2014)
  #3  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
42nd CTP (PAS)
CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2013 - Merit 32
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Hyderabad / Karachi
Posts: 62
Thanks: 59
Thanked 104 Times in 30 Posts
abdul.rauf is on a distinguished road
Default My opinion

Some discrepancies in data / conclusions drawn by author:

1. Although 238 is an all time low and discouraging (as well as condemnable) number, one needs to keep in mind that there are usually less than 200 vacancies filled up by this exam every year. So, this discouraging number does not mean that lots of slots will go unfilled - except in case of Balochistan and Sindh-Urban whose number of qualifiers are speculated to be very few.

2. Candidates appearing (and qualifying) from exam centres set up in any metropolis does not necessarily mean that all of them belong to that urban city. As, due to limited number of exam centres, candidates select the venue as per their convenience. For example, a person belonging to less privileged areas such as Noshki, Lakki Marwat, or Ghotki may appear from any of the major cities - viz Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi etc. Similarly a candidate with domicile of Peshawar city might appear from Sargodha or Sukkur (among other options), if he resides (temporarily) or works there. Thus, one can not plot the correct demographic distribution of qualifiers on national map at this stage unless domicile of each qualifier is known.

3. A total number of 17 candidates have qualified from the examination centres of Southern Punjab. Break-up: Multan 12, Bahawalpur 2 and DG Khan 3. Again, as per the preceding point (# 2) this number is not true reflection of South vs Central plus Northern Punjab comparative.

4. A total number of 21 candidates have qualified from examination centres of Sindh province (Karachi 12, Hyderabad 7, Larkana 1, Sukkur 1). Once again, point number 2 limits us to accurately predict rural-urban divide here.

5. The instances that candidates with contiguous roll numbers have qualified is merely a matter of incidence and in no way undermines the credibility of the said examination. Apply any international exam assessment parameter and statistical probailty rule here.

Having said that, I do agree that there lies a huge room at FPSC's disposal to make the CSS examination a competitive and credible one in its true literal sense.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
Bilal Hassan's Avatar
43rd CTP (PAS)
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason: CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2014 - Merit 13
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Deputy Commissioner Hunza Nagar
Posts: 1,090
Thanks: 195
Thanked 1,551 Times in 674 Posts
Bilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzamil View Post


“Even during British rule, the competence and objectivity of superior civil servants was invariably considered the only criterion for their selection so that they can deliver justice, eradicate crimes and maintain law and order all over British domain. After Pakistan’s independence, the superior civil servants were primarily supposed to be competent and nationally as well as humanly spirited souls to ensure good governance and better future to the new sovereign nation. History of nearly seven decades of misrule in Pakistan out rightly negates this prerequisite for selection of CSP Officers through FPSC.
I agree, there is dire need to reform the CSS exam and CE-2013 paper pattern was a step in right direction. Such a paper must be set that tests the real logic, analysis, intellect and comprehending abilities of candidates, rather their cramming abilities.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzamil View Post
Recently announced result of CSS-Written Examinations, 2013 produces extremely depressive conclusion, perilously damaging our national cohesion in the future, which is already under emerging constraints. According to it, out of 11,480 candidates appeared in the written CSS-Exam, 2013, only 238 candidates have been declared as qualified, which is 2.7 per cent of the total candidates. Although, the CSS written exam held in February, 2013 was initially infested with notorious scandal of Faisalabad centre where the examination-papers were leaked in connivance of examiners, custodians and overseers, yet the main characteristics of the long-awaited, controversial too, result nullifies tall claims of honesty, secrecy, transparency and accountability FPSC usually brags off,” the people, raising objections, maintained.
I'm sorry to say but how can tough result put the national integrity in harm's way? And Faisalabad issue must not be taken as an argument for that result, it is not relevant. FPSC cannot have its own employees to conduct CE throughout 22 centres, it has to outsource personnel as invigilators and postal services, although delivery system can be streamlined, they can increase the fee but it will be a safe bargain for the potential applicants. If FPSC had not not told people that such an incident took place in Faisalabad, was there any way for the critics to have any wind of that news? NO, they did so to ensure merit, FPSC could have saved its reputation by simply keeping mum on that matter but they didn't. So they must not be criticized for that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzamil View Post
Originally, 15,998 applied but 11,406 actually appeared in the written exam, however, only 172 male and 66 female candidates qualified the exam, totalling only 238. Some failed candidates on CSS Forum have posted alarming data, which has not so far been rebutted by FPSC, according to which 98 qualified candidates belongs to Lahore, 36 Islamabad, 14 Faisalabad, 15 Rawalpindi, 12 Multan, 1 Sargodha and 1 Sialkot, numbering as much as 165 from Central Punjab and only 12 from entire South Punjab. Similarly, among the qualified candidates of Sindh, 12 belong to Karachi, 2 to Larkana and 2 to Sukkhar. Only 8 qualified candidates appearing on Balochistan domicile belong to Quetta while the entire province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) has only 3 lucky candidates who belong to Peshawar and Abbottabad.
If people from Central Punjab are more capable then others then is it their fault? If I remember, that happens every time, out of qualifiers every year roughly 65-70% belong to Punjab and out of qualifiers from Punjab almost 80% belong to central Punjab, it happens every year, nothing new about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzamil View Post
In nutshell, the entire province of Sindh finds no representation in the future civil bureaucracy except 12 from Karachi while 2 each from Larkana and Sukkhar, which makes negligible impact. The entire Balochistan, except Quetta, finds no room in the slot of the future ruling elite and the same is with the KP that has 3 successful candidates belonging to Peshawar and Abbottabad.
Then what? They have every opportunity to compete and take whichever slot they want. Does the writer forget when a person from Punjab on Merit number 140 is not allocated at all while people from Sindh and Balochistan get DMG and PSP on merit num 400?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzamil View Post
For instance, the candidates who obtained more than 650 marks have been declared failed but those who have secured only 600 marks being passed in all subjects are declared passed.
Hahaha! I am amazed at writer's spying abilities.
First of all I would like to enlighten that people even with 775 marks in written are failed, to pass the exam you have to pass all these subjects even securing 600 marks. And as far as those with 650 score as failed is concerned, they would have failed a subject or two for sure.
But the point is that how does the writer know that those who have passed have exactly 600 marks? Marks of qualifiers are not disclosed yet. This is bad, to criticize FPSC that person is leaving no stone unturned!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muzzamil View Post
Likewise, a large number of the unsuccessful candidates are passed in “Essay” are failed in “Précis” and those who are passed in “Précis” but failed in “Essay”. It is appalling to note that the components of “English Précis and Composition” paper not only include ideas summation but also idea expansion. It further includes language skills test encompassing vocabulary and grammar test. Evidently, if a candidate passes this paper while failing essay, it is indicative of the fact that either the language skills were not properly tested in “Précis” paper or the essay paper was not effectively marked. Not only that but also the sequence of the passing candidates according to their Roll Nos. is amazingly interesting. Out of 617 from Roll No.1 to 617, only 4 candidates are passed but 4 candidates out of only 33 candidates from Roll No.618 to 667 are passed while the result of three more candidates having Roll No614, 638 and 667 has been held up. Despite sequential scepticism in the passed candidates, there are some mysterious pairs. For instance, Muhammad Imran and Muhammad Irfan Roll No.618 and Roll No. 619, respectively are among the passed candidates. Another pair of the lucky candidates having roll no.11216 and 11217 are among 238 candidates declared qualified.
In essay you need to write on a topic, you may not be having original data and cramming may get your job done, which is not given credit by FPSC. But in Precis and composition you have to solve every question out of given options, if both papers had same abilities to gauge, there was no need to have two papers when one was enough, both have different things to measure.
The other things he pointed out are trivial and below the standard of being published in a news paper such as qualified candidates with names Muhammad Irfan and Muhammad Imran etc, this may make you skeptical but this is a case of coincident. If you take such things into account then three siblings qualified CSS-2012, they three appeared and all of them passed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by usmanwrites View Post
This is sheer injustice rather crime against southern punjab. If sindh can be divided in rural and urban why can't punjab?
Who will present 6 points for southern punjab or relegated sraikis
Thr abundance resources of fertile land of Southern punjab are sucked by elite leeches of upper punjab almost same was the case with Bangladesh.
Almost 3 crore people speak sraiki but it doesn't show up neither in CSS or PMS optionals :o
What the government want us to do ? Form a SLA sraiki liberation army ????

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

Brother keep calm, don't try to make a fuss out of that issue. You have same opportunities as are enjoyed by Central or Northern Punjab. You yourself tell me, if there are only 12 qualifiers then having separate quota would increase your share? The seats will go wasted, we all know that there are always very small number of qualifiers from Southern Punjab. Now what are you asking for? You want FPSC to pass more people from Southern Punjab? Brother, if you pass the written then comes the quota, so separate quota won't simply mitigate grievances, there must be enough written qualifiers to allocate on quota seats. You must have concrete view about something with logical solutions. If that was a publicity stunt then a bad one I must say. We have to stay united dear, don't tear apart that land of ours.
__________________
Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.
But when love is one sided, holding off is no more an option.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bilal Hassan For This Useful Post:
Engr Falak (Thursday, September 10, 2015), sabahatbhutta (Sunday, December 22, 2013)
  #5  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
usmanwrites's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 368
Thanks: 158
Thanked 209 Times in 157 Posts
usmanwrites is on a distinguished road
Default

If people from Central Punjab are more capable then others then is it their fault? If I remember, that happens every time, out of qualifiers every year roughly 65-70% belong to Punjab and out of qualifiers from Punjab almost 80% belong to central Punjab, it happens every year, nothing new about it.

Yes there is nothing new about it . They are not capable because they don't have opportunities. In competition starting line should be same.
How on earth one can compare the education level of Southern and upper punjab? Have you ever visited southern punjab. Have you ever heard of district Rajanpur? Literacy rate is almost zero over there.
Yes you can proudly chant that the people of upper punjab are more capable only if you provide the same infrastructure and environment in which they people of upper punjab nurture.






Brother keep calm, don't try to make a fuss out of that issue. You have same opportunities as are enjoyed by Central or Northern Punjab.
You must be kidding same opportunities

yourself tell me, if there are only 12 qualifiers then having separate quota would increase your share?
No it won't but it will make sure that those 12 candidates are allocated they deserve this because they competed and passed the exam with pathetic academic background in pathetic environment.

We have to stay united dear, don't tear apart that land of ours.[/B][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

Unity is leisure term used by those who have financial security, but unfortunately people of Southern punjab do not even know what the word security means

The abundance cotton and wheat produced by southern punjab is wasted on metro project in lahore when the childrens of sraiki people are dying of hunger and diseases

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to usmanwrites For This Useful Post:
Muhammad Daniyal Khalek (Wednesday, April 09, 2014)
  #6  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
usmanwrites's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 368
Thanks: 158
Thanked 209 Times in 157 Posts
usmanwrites is on a distinguished road
Default

Tell me one thing the population of sraiki people is around 30 million then why we dont have sraikis as an optional in CSS or even PMS. When Balochi sinddhi pashtu punjabi why not sraiki
Punjabi dominance is doing same thing as they did with Bengalis and the result would be the same
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to usmanwrites For This Useful Post:
Muhammad Daniyal Khalek (Wednesday, April 09, 2014)
  #7  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
Bilal Hassan's Avatar
43rd CTP (PAS)
Medal of Appreciation: Awarded to appreciate member's contribution on forum. (Academic and professional achievements do not make you eligible for this medal) - Issue reason: CSP Medal: Awarded to those Members of the forum who are serving CSP Officers - Issue reason: CE 2014 - Merit 13
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Deputy Commissioner Hunza Nagar
Posts: 1,090
Thanks: 195
Thanked 1,551 Times in 674 Posts
Bilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to beholdBilal Hassan is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by usmanwrites View Post

Yes there is nothing new about it . They are not capable because they don't have opportunities. In competition starting line should be same.
How on earth one can compare the education level of Southern and upper punjab? Have you ever visited southern punjab. Have you ever heard of district Rajanpur? Literacy rate is almost zero over there.
Yes you can proudly chant that the people of upper punjab are more capable only if you provide the same infrastructure and environment in which they people of upper punjab nurture.
What do you mean by opportunities? Let me discuss that misconception today. For CSS you need Books only and nothing else. And You need no books for Essay, Precis & composition, Islamiat and Current Affairs because these are general papers, to attempt these papers you must have intellect and Good English, and both these things are made of hard work and commitment, that is free and readily available.

For optional papers you need one book for every subject brother, and I thing that one can easily afford. I know a person who purchased no book for even a single subject, he had few books with him that he studied in Intermediate and Graduation and he opted only those subjects so that he doesn't need to purchase any book, you know why? He had no money to afford a single book even, not to ask of any tuition or academy. He had been to petty govt schools throughout his academic career, Yet he managed to qualify the exam. Because he had potential and nothing else, and that's what you need.

Brother if CSS is done with facilities then rich had easy access to bureaucracy owing to their ability to afford everything but this is not the case, majority always belongs to middle or lower middle class. There is nothing else you need but Allah's blessing and your hard work as well as your real intellect.
Quote:
Originally Posted by usmanwrites View Post
Tell me one thing the population of sraiki people is around 30 million then why we dont have sraikis as an optional in CSS or even PMS. When Balochi sinddhi pashtu punjabi why not sraiki
Punjabi dominance is doing same thing as they did with Bengalis and the result would be the same
Brother all these languages are regional languages, 4 languages = 4 provinces. Punjabi is our language and Saraiki is mere a dialect of Punjabi and nothing else.

Brother I know that there are many deprivations of our brothers from Southern Punjab and I know their grievances are genuine, my sympathies are with you and all those. But my dear such slogans as you chanted is against the integrity of our country.
I wish you luck in your endeavors. May Allah help you.
__________________
Ever has it been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation.
But when love is one sided, holding off is no more an option.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bilal Hassan For This Useful Post:
sabahatbhutta (Sunday, December 22, 2013)
  #8  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
usmanwrites's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 368
Thanks: 158
Thanked 209 Times in 157 Posts
usmanwrites is on a distinguished road
Default

Bilal your definition of opportunity reminds me of a story: once a rich a girl was asked define a poor girl and her definition sounds similar to you although the context is different .
She said a girl who owns old model of iphone an old car and old house is poor
My dear to appear for exam one must be graduate do you know how many graduates are in southern punjab? How many colleges or even school are there? If one can't have food to eat do you think he will go to school?
The case you mentioned is exception thus irrelevant.
What I was trying to say is that when a person belongs to repressed and relegated area should be encouraged through quota.

I was introduced to English language and I literally learned ABC when I was in 6th class .I know you won't believe this. Although I am the one who you people call Wadeery ka beta

If such is the condition of one whose father is wadera think about others eyes: who are poor what would be their comprehension level. Its like you pick a boy who is the student of 8th class and say chal beta ab CSS ka exam dy.

Im not fighting for myself as I have resources to pursue my career in different fields but what about others who dont have resources? Don't they deserve a quota? If someone comes from such pathetic background

People sitting here in upper punjab cannot define the word opportunity until they visit the southern punjab. Don't take it personal:p

People of Southern punjab are not begging for quota it is their right because they contribute to GDP which no other part of country contributes still they are deprived of education health. You won't believe but in some areas there is no drinking water they drink river water you people simply don't have the capability to understand the issue.

Ps: My father is wadera but it doesn't mean he is to b blamed for this mess there are other ground realities:p


Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to usmanwrites For This Useful Post:
ssonia (Wednesday, October 12, 2016)
  #9  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
usmanwrites's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 368
Thanks: 158
Thanked 209 Times in 157 Posts
usmanwrites is on a distinguished road
Default

There is no power on earth who can stop formation of the Sraikistan. These so called lions and bats soon will be history and would be condemned in the history of Sraikistan. Stay tuned

Enough crimes have been committed in the name of integration and democracy soon we will throw off the yoke of punjabi domination

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to usmanwrites For This Useful Post:
Muhammad Daniyal Khalek (Wednesday, April 09, 2014)
  #10  
Old Friday, December 20, 2013
waaqar's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: gujranwala
Posts: 53
Thanks: 79
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
waaqar is on a distinguished road
Default

fpsc would never change its stance over result of 2013. while it is sad the people who have more than 750 marks , even fail. but what ridiculous is that why in screening test math portion is compulsory, it must not be there at any cost.
__________________
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. "
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
development of pakistan press since 1947 Janeeta Journalism & Mass Communication 15 Tuesday, May 05, 2020 03:04 AM
PAKISTAN Press, Media, TV, Radio, Newspapers MUKHTIAR ALI Journalism & Mass Communication 1 Friday, May 04, 2007 02:48 AM
international news agencies Muhammad Akmal Journalism & Mass Communication 0 Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:33 PM


CSS Forum on Facebook Follow CSS Forum on Twitter

Disclaimer: All messages made available as part of this discussion group (including any bulletin boards and chat rooms) and any opinions, advice, statements or other information contained in any messages posted or transmitted by any third party are the responsibility of the author of that message and not of CSSForum.com.pk (unless CSSForum.com.pk is specifically identified as the author of the message). The fact that a particular message is posted on or transmitted using this web site does not mean that CSSForum has endorsed that message in any way or verified the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message. We encourage visitors to the forum to report any objectionable message in site feedback. This forum is not monitored 24/7.

Sponsors: ArgusVision   vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.