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I think there is no need to be so sentimental. First of all in service you are there to implement certain laws, and majority of these laws are secular in nature and they are made by secular people and these laws have nothing to do with religion.
Well, I am not getting senty! Neither I need to..... Objectively speaking, there is no place for an atheist in the state service just like there is no place for gays in the armed forces of USA.
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P.S: Just read out Machiavelli's "The Prince" and you will find that even he advises against atheists (he says that a person having no belief can't be trusted at all) though Allama Muhammad Iqbal calls him the most ardent student of the devil. Machiavelli is notorious because of his secular political philosophy and has been considered as the first modern political philosopher.
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Pakistan has become conservative and intolerant society in recent decades.In past,we have many bureacrates who were not religious and even some were openly atheist.Foreign minister of Pakistan in 1962, Mr. Abdul Qadir was self-declared atheist.Alchol was banned in 1974.

Religion is personal matter.It has and should nothing to do with job.In CSS,you are dealing with highly educated panel.so it will not make a difference here that whether you are an atheist or mullah.But if you said something about your views in public they might not understand you and probably kill you.The case of Mashal khan is classic example.
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Pakistan has become conservative and intolerant society in recent decades.In past,we have many bureacrates who were not religious and even some were openly atheist.Foreign minister of Pakistan in 1962, Mr. Abdul Qadir was self-declared atheist.Alchol was banned in 1974.

Religion is personal matter.It has and should nothing to do with job.In CSS,you are dealing with highly educated panel.so it will not make a difference here that whether you are an atheist or mullah.But if you said something about your views in public they might not understand you and probably kill you.The case of Mashal khan is classic example.
Religion is a personal thing, I agree. But, in principle, no atheist should be tolerated in the state service of an ideological state like ours. A person who doesn't associate her/himself with the ideology of a state in the first place, would s/he be able to implement/supervise the policies coming from it? A faithless person is a miserable person! Hope is the gift of faith and if the dictum 'hope sustains life' be our guide, a faithless person is already dead. States don't hire dead people. Pertaining to the intolerance part of your text, I would like to shed some light on it: 1. We all know that alcoholic beverages are in vogue in our bureaucratic and
other high ranking officials' circles. Politicians too enjoy this privilege irrespective of the fact that it's a contraband. 2. Majority of the lot of the atheist/agnostic bureaucrats start as a common (religious) persons, but upon the enjoyment of discretion in their spheres of jobs, they start forgetting about their true status and start following the fashion (of showing off as liberals in conformity with the advanced world). Remember what Montesquieu says: when a person forgets her/his own self, moral laws comes to her/his rescue. When s/he forgets God, there are religious laws at her/his service. And when s/he forget about (the rights of) her/his fellow humans, civil laws comes into play. No matter how plausible argumets you put forward, the truth is that atheism doesn't conform to our ideological foundations and there should not be any place for an athiest/agnostic person in our state service. P.S: People with judgemental knacks are requested to spare me in the instant case please!
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Dear brother, though it is your personal matter and belief, if you don't mind let me ask one thing from you. Just an educational discussion not preaching.
your belief with you and mine with me.
Who said I'm preaching here ? I'm only answering the OP's question. Be happy with your faith. I dont care !

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I think there is no need to be so sentimental. First of all in service you are there to implement certain laws, and majority of these laws are secular in nature and they are made by secular people and these laws have nothing to do with religion.
True to the point. The laws have nothing to do with religion and they shouldn't. Religion has nothing to do with the conduct of a civil servant. In this day and age, when science can explain many aspects of the natural world, religion should simply be looked upon as a tradition or belief and not a science and certainly not a law.The state would look after your secular welfare, health, communications, foreign relations, currency and so on, but not your or my religion.
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Who said I'm preaching here ? I'm only answering the OP's question. Be happy with your faith. I dont care !



True to the point. The laws have nothing to do with religion and they shouldn't. Religion has nothing to do with the conduct of a civil servant. In this day and age, when science can explain many aspects of the natural world, religion should simply be looked upon as a tradition or belief and not a science and certainly not a law.The state would look after your secular welfare, health, communications, foreign relations, currency and so on, but not your or my religion.
I never meant that you are preaching, I wrote it for myself that if I ask something,it shouldn't be considered preaching.
And yes I am happy with my faith,and have faith in my faith!
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