CSS Officers (Especially Female), Plz Guide
 

Hello Friends,

I and some of my female friends who have qualified written exams, want to know what should be the dress code for females in interview. Especially in the case when a girl generally wears Abaya/scarf/veil.
Will that create any problem or will that show her personality as conservative?
Would it matter in group allocation?

Plz reply,
Regards

[QUOTE=Eager;385843]Hello Friends,

I and some of my female friends who have qualified written exams, want to know what should be the dress code for females in interview. Especially in the case when a girl generally wears Abaya/scarf/veil.
Will that create any problem or will that show her personality as conservative?
Would it matter in group allocation?

Plz reply,
Regards[/QUOTE]

Well I think we must not look ultra conservative by wearing those veils/abayas(my fav)burka etc...some how veil/abaya dont fit here...but its my own perception.I myself wear full veil..like this:ph34r:..........:happy:

And I'm going full modern...no veil...come on its civil service..now we are going to be OFFICERS..My family has no problem.I have talked this out..no prob.

I think the more open n frank personality we show the better it is..and secondly I'm having strong notions that some how these additional pieces of cloth do have an effect on the group allocation..plz some senior shed light on this issue...thx.

[QUOTE=Eager;385843]
when a girl generally wears Abaya/scarf/veil.
Will that create any problem or will that show her personality as conservative?
Would it matter in group allocation?

Plz reply,
Regards[/QUOTE]

please define conservative personality :))

But no, it wouldnt create any problem. at most a question about it might be asked like;"do you observe it of your own accord or were you forced to wear this (abaya/scarf) by your family"?

as for your second question, again, no,your dress has no bearing whatsoever on group allocation..(unless someone turns up in totally inappropriate clothes leaving nothing to imagination, in that case candidate's 'moral character' might be called into question :haha )
though i did hear a rumour that former chairmain fpsc late jamshed gulzar kiyani once made an exception for a veiled female, by writing on her report "not to be allocated in FSP" (or something to that effect)..but again, it could have been her oral response to some question instead of her appearance...seniors who appeared during JGK's time!!, plz confirm this

[QUOTE=Gulrukh;385881].I myself wear full veil..like this:ph34r:..........:happy:

And I'm going full modern...no veil...come on its civil service..now we are going to be OFFICERS..My family has no problem.I have talked this out..no prob.

I think the more open n frank personality we show the better it is[/QUOTE]

Dear Gulrukh,
:onesecone question..were you wearing some form of veil in the pics you submitted for the application form??
because if you were, i would highly recommend wearing it again...or else your psychological report might portray you in less than favourable light. they might throw in terms like "contradictory personality traits" and/or "inconsistent behaviour".seriously, that would do you more harm than a relatively innocuous veil :angle

dress code for females on occasion of interveiw
 

Dear,i think that female,who qualify for viva,need not b worried about dress code,as they have repetedly watched the programmes of star plus with ease,i think same dress code is best.

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wear what you think is decent...no need to take off veils as that would be a disrespect to your own belief and if you cant respect yourself then noone can respect u...
for those who think that pix are submitted widout veil then why wear a veil.....the answer is simple...its about options....u dont hav an option to submit pix wd veils due to security conditions but its ur right to wear it n nobody can take it away....
those who think dat one should be frank n open minded...the terms one should use are to be a professional wd vision n not to take off clothes that u considered at one tym as obligation n now as extra pieces of clothes...
if u cant stick to ur beliefs then how cud u cnvince others...
in short....u dun have faith in ALLAH but lookin upto his creation for something that they dont have power of.....
i may b rude but truth is always bitter

[QUOTE=Eager;385843]Hello Friends,

I and some of my female friends who have qualified written exams, want to know what should be the dress code for females in interview. Especially in the case when a girl generally wears Abaya/scarf/veil.
Will that create any problem or will that show her personality as conservative?
Would it matter in group allocation?

Plz reply,
Regards[/QUOTE]

Eager! be confidant in wearing veil, it will be a plus point for you and Allah Almighty will also help you out in the whole process, please present yourself as you are, I was also asked by many people to take off gaun as the panel will consider you orthodox, but I wasn't convinced.Artificiality should be avoided in any case, be original...don't listen to the people.Listen to your heart only and you are not doing something bad so be composed and strong, Allah will be with you inshaAllah, Whether you will pass the exam or not but you will remain satisfied by doing so.best of luck.

@eager:
 

i will rather suggest the wearing of abaya as veil(burqa) is somewhat not in consonance with the ocassion....its civil service and you will be having a lot of public dealing.... abaya or even a decent chadar (shawl) will deliver a complete hijaab.... rest its solely upto you.this is my opinion and i may be wrong.regards.

Wallah.o.aalam! stay blessed.

ok jis ka dil karta hai wo veil kar ley...but I have many girlz in my family who are having top class jobs..n I have decided this thing(not to wear veil)after listening to them..veil is not desireable...agr veil karna hai to dont join civil service..FSP is my top choice..n i cant think about ruining my career by wearing my veil..veil was not something forced on me as such(i adopted it under special circumstances)...in fact my brothers opposed it but i was adamant..my family is quite liberal n educated..my pics were with out veil or scarf.so NO DISCREPANCY here..OK...i 'm doing what i'm supposed to do...i dont wanna sound hypocrite....I'm Hafiz e Quran n my faith is mighty & unconquerable even without a veil...that's it.

Good luck girlz..Stay blessed..May Allah help us.

The Pakistani civil and armed services are heavily influenced by British traditions as well as the lifestyles of the Muslim elite of united India. As a yardstick for their appearances, the males candidates should emulate Mohammad Ali Jinnah and the female candidates may draw inspiration from Fatima Jinnah.

Whether we like it or not, the all-encompassing veil ([I]niqab[/I]) represents conservativeness and a reactionary ideology. A scarf, on the other hand, is more mainstream or "acceptable" in the more 'elite' circles of our society.

[QUOTE=junaidd;392902]The Pakistani civil and armed services are heavily influenced by British traditions as well as the lifestyles of the Muslim elite of united India. As a yardstick for their appearances, the males candidates should emulate Mohammad Ali Jinnah and the female candidates may draw inspiration from Fatima Jinnah.

Whether we like it or not, the all-encompassing veil ([I]niqab[/I]) represents conservativeness and a reactionary ideology. A scarf, on the other hand, is more mainstream or "acceptable" in the more 'elite' circles of our society.[/QUOTE]

If we can't take stand at this initial stage how we can serve the country when there will be a number of challenges in front of us being civil servants, it's the ideas that matters, they should be visionary and flexible.Gaun can't be a hurdle in anyone's success, intelligence and compatibility can be proven even with veil, covering face can raise questions as the facial expressions will not be visible, otherwise there is no harm in wearing scarf and gaun,but again it's everyone's own choice we can just present our own ideas in our own way.

[QUOTE=Gulrukh;392887]ok jis ka dil karta hai wo veil kar ley...but I have many girlz in my family who are having top class jobs..n I have decided this thing(not to wear veil)after listening to them..veil is not desireable...agr veil karna hai to dont join civil service..FSP is my top choice..n i cant think about ruining my career by wearing my veil..veil was not something forced on me as such(i adopted it under special circumstances)...in fact my brothers opposed it but i was adamant..my family is quite liberal n educated..my pics were with out veil or scarf.so NO DISCREPANCY here..OK...i 'm doing what i'm supposed to do...i dont wanna sound hypocrite....I'm Hafiz e Quran n my faith is mighty & unconquerable even without a veil...that's it.

Good luck girlz..Stay blessed..May Allah help us.[/QUOTE]

your very starting line is the crux of the issue, it's personal choice of every body but be flexible while giving your arguments, [I]''agr veil karna hai to dont join civil service..FSP is my top choice..n i cant think about ruining my career by wearing my veil..''[/I],I am referring to this particular sentence, avoid this rigid stance.....as we can't force anyone to do anything.good luck.

[QUOTE=mano g;392909]your very starting line is the crux of the issue, it's personal choice of every body but be flexible while giving your arguments, [I]''agr veil karna hai to dont join civil service..FSP is my top choice..n i cant think about ruining my career by wearing my veil..''[/I],I am referring to this particular sentence, avoid this rigid stance.....as we can't force anyone to do anything.good luck.[/QUOTE]


Agree with you Mano g.it should be one's own choice whether one wants to wear the veil or not and we should respect one's choice.According to my experience one should not wear niqab in interview for it may affect one's performance because panel won't be able to see the reaction of the candidate on any controversial question.Scarf or dupatta will be a better option.

Good Luck to all.

[QUOTE=Eager;385843]Hello Friends,

I and some of my female friends who have qualified written exams, want to know what should be the dress code for females in interview. Especially in the case when a girl generally wears Abaya/scarf/veil.
Will that create any problem or will that show her personality as conservative?
Would it matter in group allocation?

Plz reply,
Regards[/QUOTE]

I suggest that you should not cover your face.Cover your head in a proper way.Personally I'm not in favour of veil but one should do if one really wants.

If you do veil in your interview but later after allocation you feel inconvenient with it then it will seem quite awkward to leave.So it's better to make a choice now:)

[QUOTE=mano g;392909]your very starting line is the crux of the issue, it's personal choice of every body but be flexible while giving your arguments, [I]''agr veil karna hai to dont join civil service..FSP is my top choice..n i cant think about ruining my career by wearing my veil..''[/I],[FONT="Impact"]I am referring to this particular sentence, avoid this rigid stance.....as we can't force anyone to do anything.good luck.[/FONT][/QUOTE]

come on...how can I force any one ??? but any ways I am saying sorry.I take my words back....secondly Its the most important turn in our lives so do what you think is right & suitable..baqi jo Allah ki marzi..n I can only wish good luck.Ciao..../

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at first i dun get da vocab used by most ppl around, too tough fr a person lyk me....i agree wd only one thing n thats if u cant stand fr wot represents u then u aint worth a penny....n fr those who think of perceptions n wanna change fr those perceptions....cmon ppl......aint perceptions there fr u ta change or we should also be careful n act according ta perceptions coz if we dont we myt be the rebels??? anyways...if u aint a rebel u cant change anything n then plz dun brag abt changing the future of PAK afta being a css officer as u wud always be part of the status quo...........
i am ashamed of ppl manipulatin thmslvs fr opportunities instead of makin a difference by darin ta take stances on beliefs n righteous deeds......
its a gud opportunity fr an administrative head of any institute in the country to listen to political head and hire ppl of his constituency which wud ultimately oblige the political head to send the administrative head to the post that administrative head wishes to have...............wow.....this is how our future CSS officers think........opportunity vs belief, rights, morals, bla bla bla

[QUOTE=Eager;385843]Hello Friends,

I and some of my female friends who have qualified written exams, want to know what should be the dress code for females in interview. Especially in the case when a girl generally wears Abaya/scarf/veil.
Will that create any problem or will that show her personality as conservative?
Would it matter in group allocation?

Plz reply,
Regards[/QUOTE]
Were you selected and did you or any of your friend wear veil in interview?