Asalaam Alaykum

As we all know CS 2011 paper was a tough cookie, but I must say it was not that difficult. My paper was not exceptional however I believe I'll fair ok. The thing that bothered me the most is the fact Syllabus clearly entails:

Structured and Object Oriented Programming
Basics of C/C++ environment, memory concepts. operators, control structures, selection structures, Array & functions/methods, classes & data Abstractions, inheritance and polymorphism.

Emphasis being on C/C++, yet the paper questioned regarding JAVA. Now there are a couple dozen structured/OOP languages and we can't possible become proficient at them all. At first I thought maybe it was a one-time thing and may be CS 2012 questions for Structured and Object oriented Programming section will revert to C/C++ –What if that is not the case and before we know it we are being questioned regarding Ruby, Python or Emerald.

I feel cheated because I was robbed of 20 marks for a question that would have been easy to bag. Since I am, a proficient .Net programmer JAVA is alien to me.


Your thoughts on the topic

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Tenrai
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76 views yet not a single reply, intriguing, is it that people mostly choose other sections over programming?

Can some one please shed some light as to what will the most feasible course of action in order to get this resolved?

I have tried e-mailing FPSC; fpsc@fpsc.gov.pk and CSS@fpsc.gov.pk. I am getting an Error: USER out of qouta, the MAILER-DAEMON. Shall I may be try calling them?

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Tenrai
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This is Pakistan brother anything can happen although it was not a fair to computer science candidates

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I didn't make any preparations for CS paper after traversing the topics list provided by FPSC, as I assumed that I had studied all these topics in my 142 credit hours in University. But believe me it was the paper of CS which put my result on risk, thank God I have qualified but I'm sure my younger brother would have done same without having any know-how of CS.

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Well then brother lets change Pakistan for the better!





Really now? That statement is more of an oxymoron. If one doesn't have any "know-how" regarding a subject how does one excel at it?

However I'll reiterate my stance, 2011 CS was not a walk in the park especially with a loss of 20 marks, out a syllabus JAVA question. In any event, for those who are proficient in JAVA it would have been a different scenario all together.

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Tenrai
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Well overall paper was set to kill the candidates.

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Yes I've qualified but it was CS' paper which gave me nightmare from 11th March till 29th November. I gave example of my younger brother because after receiving question paper I felt I have no now-how of CS if this is CS. Though I managed to attempt portions like architecture, database and Networks yet overall, I was never satisfied.

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[QUOTE=Tenrai;372232]Asalaam Alaykum



Structured and Object Oriented Programming
Basics of C/C++ environment, memory concepts. operators, control structures, selection structures, Array & functions/methods, classes & data Abstractions, inheritance and polymorphism.

well i have not opt computer science though i am a computer science graduate , reason is obvious

but i want to add here some in reply to ur query that as it is mentioned specifically in the syllabus "structured and object oriented programming " then JAVA is a must entry .
not only JAVA but it is possible that in next exam u may get a question of c# too ( if paper setter knows it well )
so OOP is not restricted to c++ only , JAVA and C# too in lane rather java has replaced C++ . so prepare yourself for a changing trend from c++ to JAVA and now from JAVA to C#.

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asa karna toh nahi chaiye ... per yar ek toh paper out of pattern uper se marks bi ... samaj bi toh agae ho gi apsb ko.

herat ki bt hai asa switch nahi karna chaiye tha inko subkuch....

I am thinking of not opting itin 2012... but left no option in the nick of time :-(

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[QUOTE=Roha Mustafa;383009]WoW... Your logic needs a complete over haul! You do realize they explicitly mention c/c++ as their language of choice, don't you?

If you ask any programmer worth his salts he'll tell you it is not possible to be proficient at all of the OOP languages. Reason? well it doesn't serve your purpose of development. Its like saying one needs to learn all of languages of the world! You either choose .Net or go for JAVA as your main developmental tool, depending on your personal liking and on the market treads but thats not important here.

Question: Have you ever programmed for C#? I have... believe me you can't do it on a piece of paper. That is just hilarious! There a ton of libraries/procedures/functions that are built in and you don't need to code for them. Intellisence does most of the work for you. Thats the "REASON" you are given access to MSDN and they charge a subscription for that too. Why? because you simply don't know all of .Net and need a reference, a guide. I am sure you'll know this that C# / Vb.net / J# are all visual languages meaning you work with forms/buttons/text boxes etcetera. Will we draw forms on a piece of paper? and then program for them?

Thats the reason they ask for C/C++ or JAVA in examinations, to keep things simple. C#/Visual VB.net/J#/J++ are highly evolved. All I am saying is they need to give the candidates a heads up. They can't say C/C++ and then give JAVA or otherwise.


Any way, would you guys believe that the e-mail addresses mentioned on FPSC web portal are all returning mailer-daemon delivery Errors. Fpsc@Fpsc.gov.pk returns "User quota over limit" Imagine that!

I have written to the secretary FPSC lets see what happens. Then again, who care here? A sentry stationed outside FPSC Karachi thinks a world of him self --Oh look I command so much power! . Here we are talking about the Secretary of FPSC or some one who is responsible for examinations, they must surely consider themselves demi-gods!

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Tenrai
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