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miss shiss Thursday, August 04, 2011 02:43 AM

which portion can be left
 
i have chemical engineering background can i opt chemistry we have mainly studies about thermodybamics and industries and some also organic portion...and also guide plz that which portion can be left...and which portion is imp to do,,,,and any body will proper guide which portion i shoiul start first..thanks

chemguy Thursday, August 04, 2011 02:57 PM

It all comes down to Chemistry 2
 
I too have a chemical engineering background.

Should you opt for the chemistry in CSS? It depends on your choice. For someone with chemical engineering background, I think this mini-guide should be helpful :)

If you look at chemistry in CSS, it is divided into branches of chemistry. Chemistry 1 covers Physical chemistry, inorganic chemistry, and industrial chemistry. [B]Chemistry 2 is purely Organic chemistry.[/B]

Chemistry 1 should be quite easy for someone with chemical engineering background. The only thing you need to learn here is the chemistry of Transition State elements and some quantum theory in atomic structure (Which is optional), everything else you just need to revise. Because the rest is your chemical engineering and Intermediate chemistry :)

Chemistry 2 on the other hand is a very different story. It is purely organic chemistry. And it is much much more advanced than what is taught to chemical engineering students. To be frank you need to spend [B]7-12 months[/B] exclusively on this chemistry 2.[B] It is very dry and very long. There are tons of reactions that you will have to cram. [/B]

The problem is that Thermodynamics, and Kinetics you studied is way way too advanced for chemistry in CSS. If you studied just one subject of physical chemistry, its thermodynamics and kinetics should suffice. The extra Thermo-1 and Thermo-2 that you studied, are useless. The refrigeration cycles, air conditioning, vapor equilibria.. All useless. Also, the kinetics subject taught to chemical engineers is too advanced for the tiny portion of kinetics in CSS.

Remember that this is a science subject. If you write wrong, you get zero. Wrong theory, no matter how long and beautifully written, will get you a zero. In other subjects, if you write your opinion or your experience, you might get some marks.

Also if you look into the past papers, you will see that each questions comprises of 3-4 parts. It is a very intimidating paper.

What should you leave? To be honest, you shouldn't leave anything. Sometimes the question is out of the curriculum mentioned by CSS. Why? Because they assume that you have done at least a BSc in chemistry and are capable of answering questions up to that level. This is particularly a problem in science subjects of CSS because the trend of paper often changes. Don't rely on past papers thinking, "OK, so 3 questions come from this section, 2 from there". [B]The pattern can change unexpectedly. [/B]

[B]You can get A LOT of marks in chemistry. Chemistry 1 is a piece of cake, chemistry 2, not so much. [/B]

You should download past papers, and curriculum given on CSS site, go through them, and then come to any conclusion. Chemistry 2 is very long, dry and boring, specially for an engineer. There are a lot of other choices. Most people don't select the subject of their study in CSS. If you think you can do Chemistry 2, you should definitely take Chemistry because this will give you the most marks.

sumyra Thursday, August 04, 2011 06:36 PM

according to my point of view chemistry 2 paper is easy for those who are masters in chem with organic as major subject...i attempted 2nd paper well without any proper preparation,as organic chem was my major subject:) but ist paper went so so :( because it was not well prepared by me

miss shiss Saturday, August 06, 2011 02:43 AM

thanks both of u .....but i have no other choice ...other subjects are boring for me
...chem guy ap ne opt kia hay chem...and myra ap k kitnay marks thay

sumyra Saturday, August 06, 2011 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=miss shiss;337066]thanks both of u .....but i have no other choice ...other subjects are boring for me
...chem guy ap ne opt kia hay chem...and myra ap k kitnay marks thay[/QUOTE]

still waiting for result of 2011 written exam...

chemguy Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:03 AM

Miss Shiss:
I haven't made a decision on this subject. In the start I did want to take it, but the course is very lengthy. Now I am caught between Chemistry and Psychology. I still have a few years before I give my CSS :D

@Sumyra:
Exactly. It is ideal for an MSc in Organic Chemistry.

miss shiss Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=sumyra;337082]still waiting for result of 2011 written exam...[/QUOTE]

thanks sumera where r u from ..r u in lahore i want your guidance

sumyra Friday, August 12, 2011 11:18 AM

[QUOTE=miss shiss;338231]thanks sumera where r u from ..r u in lahore i want your guidance[/QUOTE]

i m from multan..

Chintoo2010 Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:48 AM

To add here, Organic Chemistry looks long but its very methodical and you can go to it if u have a good teacher......people with Chem Engg are a bit shaky on Organic Chemistry
I am MSc Chemistry and offer to help anyone in Organic Chemistry
I have not appeared in CSS yet and looking to go for CSS-2012
I will be thnakfull if you people decide to make a group and lets help each other in eachother weaknesses.

Patras Arain Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:17 AM

i want to make a group.............. i have chemical engineering background


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