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I have just started studying public ad and naturally the first book i consulted was dr sultan khan's. I didn't expect it to be very good considering the generally poor quality of textbooks by Pakistani authors. But I have to say, out of sheer indignation as a student, that this book is an insult to all who spend their money to buy it.

As you can see from my post count I'm not a regular contributor to this forum, but I'm moved to such a degree by this blatant disregard towards scholarship and such an outright insult to our intelligence that I am forced to send this message out.

You are all highly educated people. Tell me is it too unfair to expect an eminent scholar to write a book that does not contain a hundred grammatical blunders on every page? Is it too unfair to expect an eminent scholar to not shamelessly plagiarise other authors?

Comparing the first chapter of this abomination of a book with the first chapter of the book by Hoshiar Singh was painful to say the least. Dr Khan plagiarises word for word, and even then he can't manage to form coherent sentences.

Please, I urge you all to put aside self interest for a moment. This book is touted as the 'best' book in the market for CSS, and for just this reason we all go out and buy it. We ignore the fact that by our spending money on such poorly written books we actually encourage them to continue insulting and robbing us. There are more quality textbooks out there than any one of us could ever read. We don't want plagiarized material written by someone who lacks even a fifth grade sense of grammar.
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Not only grammar bro there are many other issues with it as well.. Like it is totally a plagiarized work and written in a haphazard way without considering what to include and what not to include..Many ambiguous sentences that i m unable to comprehend what is the intention of the author.. Along with it Liaquat Ali Khan's book published by Caravan is analogous to it..Caravan's book is too bad that you can't imagine.. It's really pathetic..!!
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I agree with both of you.book written in totally careless manner.lot of subjects missing in his book.i wasted my money though but 30 to 35 % material is there,helpful to make notes.Otherwise sole reliance on this book would be a complete blunder....Shane on author!!!
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i also agree but the problem is to find out or to compose a substitute ... if any substitute tell me also..
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i also agree but the problem is to find out or to compose a substitute ... if any substitute tell me also..
Subsitute are bukly,boring and time wasting.there is a book of Encyclopedia of public administration.which consists of 545 pages.i read this book but after that mughay Dr sultan khan wali book achi lagne lag gae😁
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As I said, there are more quality books out there than you can make time to read. Hoshiar Singh's book is very concise and extremely well written and researched. An there are many others.

We need to start supporting quality authors and actively discouraging charlatans like Dr Sultan Khan who sell us copy paste material with no thought for anything beside money.

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Apni asani ke liye ya dusron ke kehne pe hum is tarah ki books khareedtay hain. Sub se zaruri ye hai ke sultan khan jese logon ki hausla shikni ho. Is tarah ke log aisi kitabein likh ke paisay banatay hain aur hum andhon ki tarah unhe paisay dete hain, kyun ke sub kehte hain ye book parhne se marks atay hain. Jo in third class books mein likha hai wo dusron ki he books se to churaya hua hai. Kyun na asal scholars aur publishers ko support karen? In kitabon ko khareednay walay humari taleem ki tabahi ki asal waja hain.
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As I said, there are more quality books out there than you can make time to read. Hoshiar Singh's book is very concise and extremely well written and researched. An there are many others.

We need to start supporting quality authors and actively discouraging charlatans like Dr Sultan Khan who sell us copy paste material with no thought for anything beside money.

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Apni asani ke liye ya dusron ke kehne pe hum is tarah ki books khareedtay hain. Sub se zaruri ye hai ke sultan khan jese logon ki hausla shikni ho. Is tarah ke log aisi kitabein likh ke paisay banatay hain aur hum andhon ki tarah unhe paisay dete hain, kyun ke sub kehte hain ye book parhne se marks atay hain. Jo in third class books mein likha hai wo dusron ki he books se to churaya hua hai. Kyun na asal scholars aur publishers ko support karen? In kitabon ko khareednay walay humari taleem ki tabahi ki asal waja hain.
but the problem is that we need a book in context of pakistan.. is that singh book related to pak?
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Bro this book is not completely a flop.there are good points here too.there were many candidates like mashal that soley rely on P.A book of sultan khan and got 75 marks.but then syllabus wasnot new.now things changed.it is better to make notes i think
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but the problem is that we need a book in context of pakistan.. is that singh book related to pak?
Singh's book is the one Sultan Khan has plagiarized, along with many others I'm sure. The Pakistan specific information can be very easily obtained on the internet. Again, we fall prey to these charlatans because they provide cheap and easy fixes. They promise maximum marks in this or that exam, make their quick buck, and in the process trample over all notions of honesty and integrity. These frauds must know that we don't need them to do well on our exams.
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Singh's book is the one Sultan Khan has plagiarized, along with many others I'm sure. The Pakistan specific information can be very easily obtained on the internet. Again, we fall prey to these charlatans because they provide cheap and easy fixes. They promise maximum marks in this or that exam, make their quick buck, and in the process trample over all notions of honesty and integrity. These frauds must know that we don't need them to do well on our exams.
you are very right.
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