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i need answers of these questions, plz help

1. who for the first time wrote "azad nazam"?

2. What does this couplet mean?
"na tha kuchch to KHuda tha, kuchch na hota to KHuda hota
duboya mujhko hone ne, na hota maiN to kya hota ?"

3. please complete these couplets:
a) bht log juda hoe aik tm bh sahi
b)" Hoa hay shah ka musahib phiray hay itrata",

4. Translate this couplet:
"Ghalib agar na khirqa o mushaf farookhtam"

5. what is common between Prem Chand, Karishan Chandar, and Rajinder Singh Bedi.

please predict other important couplets of famous poets which can be asked in interview.

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i need answers of these questions, plz help

1. who for the first time wrote "azad nazam"?

2. What does this couplet mean?
"na tha kuchch to KHuda tha, kuchch na hota to KHuda hota
duboya mujhko hone ne, na hota maiN to kya hota ?"

3. please complete these couplets:
a) bht log juda hoe aik tm bh sahi
b)" Hoa hay shah ka musahib phiray hay itrata",

4. Translate this couplet:
"Ghalib agar na khirqa o mushaf farookhtam"

5. what is common between Prem Chand, Karishan Chandar, and Rajinder Singh Bedi.

please predict other important couplets of famous poets which can be asked in interview.

Regards,

1....sohuld be Nazir akbar abadi....not sure..

2. meri honny na hony se kia farq parta tha, Khuda tu tab be tha, Ab be he, tab be hoga, me aise hi ranj o alam me mara gya,

3...juda huye hen bhut log aik tum be sahi........ab itni baat pe kia zindagi haram karen.......

4. Ghalib agr me ne apna sufiana libas (gown) aur Qur'an na Bechay....
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i need answers of these questions, plz help

1. who for the first time wrote "azad nazam"?

2. What does this couplet mean?
"na tha kuchch to KHuda tha, kuchch na hota to KHuda hota
duboya mujhko hone ne, na hota maiN to kya hota ?"

3. please complete these couplets:
a) bht log juda hoe aik tm bh sahi
b)" Hoa hay shah ka musahib phiray hay itrata",

4. Translate this couplet:
"Ghalib agar na khirqa o mushaf farookhtam"

5. what is common between Prem Chand, Karishan Chandar, and Rajinder Singh Bedi.

please predict other important couplets of famous poets which can be asked in interview.

Regards,
2. jab kuch nahi tha tab b Khuda tha aur jab kuch na hoga tab bhi Khuda hoga, magar mere liye to is hone ne boht dukh paeda kiye, konsa farq par jata agar me na hota?
3. b) "Wagarna shehr me Galib ki abru kiya hai"
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i need answers of these questions, plz help

1. who for the first time wrote "azad nazam"?

2. What does this couplet mean?
"na tha kuchch to KHuda tha, kuchch na hota to KHuda hota
duboya mujhko hone ne, na hota maiN to kya hota ?"

3. please complete these couplets:
a) bht log juda hoe aik tm bh sahi
b)" Hoa hay shah ka musahib phiray hay itrata",

4. Translate this couplet:
"Ghalib agar na khirqa o mushaf farookhtam"

5. what is common between Prem Chand, Karishan Chandar, and Rajinder Singh Bedi.

please predict other important couplets of famous poets which can be asked in interview.

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1. Noon Meem Rashid

2.ghalib ka falsfa e hayat...Abdiyat aur Insaan ki faniyat ka taqabul yahaan nazar ata hai...zindagi aur gham ek sikay k do rukh hain, ghalib k nazdeek Khaliq e kainaat aur shaan e kareemi per na insan k hony se frq pera hai na he 'na honay' se perta, lakin insan ki zindgi sirf ghamo ka ek soda hai.Neesti me rehna he us k liye acha tha.
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b)wgerna shehr me ghalib ki aabroo kia hai.

5.All these three were hindi_urdu short story writers, novelists; non_muslim; died in India/ British India. These are common grounds among them.
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i need answers of these questions, plz help

1. Who for the first time wrote "azad nazam"?
ن م راشد اور تصدق حسین خالد اس کے بانی مانے جاتے ہیں
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2. What does this couplet mean?
"na tha kuchch to khuda tha, kuchch na hota to khuda hota
duboya mujhko hone ne, na hota main to kya hota ?"
گو کہ دوسرے ساتھیوں نے بھی اس کی تشریح کی ہے لیکن میں اس سے اتفاق نہیں کرتی ۔

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وحدت الوجود کا نظریہ پیش کیا ہے ۔یعنی انسان خدا کے وجود کا ایک حصہ ہے ۔ جب کہ وحدت الشہود کے نظریے کے مطابق خدا اور اس کی تخلیق دو مختلف وجود ہیں ۔

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وہ کہتے ہیں کہ جب کچھ بھی نہیں تھا تو اس وقت صرف خدا تھا ۔اور اگر خدا یہ کائنات تخلیق نہ کرتا تو صرف خدا ہی ہوتا ۔اس کے علاوہ کوئ نہیں ۔

اگلے مصرعے میں بڑی ہوشیاری اور خوبصورتی سے وہ یہ سوال قاری کے سامنے رکھتا ہے کہ اگر میرا وجود نہ ہوتا تو بھلا میں کیا ہوتا ؟ جب کہ وہ پہلے مصرعے میں اعتراف کر چکا ہے کہ اگر کچھ اور نہ ہوتا تو خدا ہی خدا ہوتا اس کائنات میں ۔ جب وہ یہ کہتا ہے کہ ڈبویا مجھ کو ہونے نے تو اس سے اس کی یہ مراد ہے کہ میں اگر پیدا نہ ہوتا تو میں خدا کے وجود کا حصہ ہوتا اور وہ ہی قابل فخر بات ہے ۔

غالب جو کہنا چاہتا تھا وہ اس نے نہایت معصومیت سے سوال کی شکل میں کہ ڈالا ۔الٹا قاری کو سوچنے پہ مجبور کر دیا کہ اس کے عدم وجود کا مطلب یہ ہے کہ وہ خدا کے وجود کا حصہ ہے۔


امید ہے اس تشریح سے آپ مطمئن ہوں گے۔

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شاعری کا سلیبس بہت زیادہ ہے ۔وہ کچھ بھی پوچھ سکتے ہیں ،کہیں سے بھی پوچھ سکتے ہیں ۔ زیادہ اقبال ،فیض اور غالب کے امکانات ہیں۔

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@Farah Zafar
one minute janab.. jab Galib ye kehta hai k kuch nahi tha to Khuda tha aur kuch na hota to Khuda hota.. aur os k baad ye kayinat khalq hvi aur is kayinat k sath me b khalq hva.. is ka matlab ye to nahi k Khuda ne apne wajood se ye kayinat banai he, matlab ye kayinat Khuda k vajood ka aik tukra hai.. mere hisab se esa tab ho sakta jab Khuda ka maddi (material) wajood hota.. tab hi ham os k hisse b farz kar sakte the.. jab esa nahi hai to ye kese ho sakta hai k Galib kahe k agar me khalq na hota to Khuda k wajood ka hissa hota? even in abstract sense this explanation seems suspicious to me.. aap kiya kehti hain??

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aur Galib jab ye kehta hai k na hota me to kiya hota, yahan pe mere hisab se vo sawal nahi poch raha balki sawaliya andaz me keh raha hai k ek mere na hone se kiya farq per jata? kuch nahi.. jab aagaz aur anjaam donu Khuda he, jab os ki zaat ko kayinat k hone ya na hone se koi farq nae parta.. vo kayinat se pehle b tha aur baad me b rahe ga, to phir mujhe kiun banaya, mjhe na khalq kerne se kiya farq per jata, mujhe to is hone ne, is wajood ne, is zindagi ne boht masayil paeda kiye, boht dukh diye.. mujhe is hone ne daboya.. behter yahi tha k me na hota.. kiun k Galib k nazdeek zindagi aur gham donu lazim o malzoom hain..

Qaed e hayat o band e gham, asl me donu aik hain,
Moat se pehle admi, gham se njat paye kiun..!
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I agree with your explanation. But here you are a bit mistaken; you have taken Wadatul Wajood" for "Wahdat u Shahood". Wahdatul Wajood means "Khuda aur kainaat ek hain[/FONT]" (lughwi maani pe ghor kren). WahdatuShahood means " kainaat ki her shay khuda k wajood ki gawahi deti hai. So it is Wahdatul Wajood which can be said,has been propounded here.
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mere hisab se esa tab ho sakta jab Khuda ka maddi (material) wajood hota.. tab hi ham os k hisse b farz kar sakte the.. jab esa nahi hai to ye kese ho sakta hai k Galib kahe k agar me khalq na hota to Khuda k wajood ka hissa hota? even in abstract sense this explanation seems suspicious to me.. aap kiya kehti hain??
Ap kesay keh sktay hain k khuda k maadi wajood nahe? Insan Mareekh tk zaroor pohncha hai, lakin abi tk Milky Way se b agay ni ja ska Abi bohat kuch sar basta hai is kainaat me. Kaun dawa kar skta hai k khuda ka wajood kesa hai?

Farah Zafar's explanation is quite logical. She is not professing any of these schools of thought here, she just propounded what Ghalib would have had meant. Wahdatul Wajood aur Wahdatu Shahood do mukhtalif school of thought hain, khaliq aur makhlooq k taluq k baray me. Boht se classical shora nay apnai shairi me in per izhaar e khayal kia hai. ziada tar qudmaa wahdatul wajood k qail thay.
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گو کہ دوسرے ساتھیوں نے بھی اس کی تشریح کی ہے لیکن میں اس سے اتفاق نہیں کرتی ۔

اس شعر میں شاعر نے تصوف اور وحدت الشہود کا نظریہ پیش کیا ہے ۔یعنی انسان خدا کے وجود کا ایک حصہ ہے ۔ جب کہ وحدت الوجود کے نظریے کے مطابق خدا اور اس کی تخلیق دو مختلف وجود ہیں ۔

غالب نے کناۓ کا سہارا لیا ہے ۔کھل کے اگر وہ اسے لکھتے تو شائد مولوی حضرات ان پر فتوی لگا دیتے ۔

وہ کہتے ہیں کہ جب کچھ بھی نہیں تھا تو اس وقت صرف خدا تھا ۔اور اگر خدا یہ کائنات تخلیق نہ کرتا تو صرف خدا ہی ہوتا ۔اس کے علاوہ کوئ نہیں ۔

اگلے مصرعے میں بڑی ہوشیاری اور خوبصورتی سے وہ یہ سوال قاری کے سامنے رکھتا ہے کہ اگر میرا وجود نہ ہوتا تو بھلا میں کیا ہوتا ؟ جب کہ وہ پہلے مصرعے میں اعتراف کر چکا ہے کہ اگر کچھ اور نہ ہوتا تو خدا ہی خدا ہوتا اس کائنات میں ۔ جب وہ یہ کہتا ہے کہ ڈبویا مجھ کو ہونے نے تو اس سے اس کی یہ مراد ہے کہ میں اگر پیدا نہ ہوتا تو میں خدا کے وجود کا حصہ ہوتا اور وہ ہی قابل فخر بات ہے ۔

غالب جو کہنا چاہتا تھا وہ اس نے نہایت معصومیت سے سوال کی شکل میں کہ ڈالا ۔الٹا قاری کو سوچنے پہ مجبور کر دیا کہ اس کے عدم وجود کا مطلب یہ ہے کہ وہ خدا کے وجود کا حصہ ہے۔


امید ہے اس تشریح سے آپ مطمئن ہوں گے۔

باقی سوالوں کے جواب دوسرے لوگ دے چکے ۔

شاعری کا سلیبس بہت زیادہ ہے ۔وہ کچھ بھی پوچھ سکتے ہیں ،کہیں سے بھی پوچھ سکتے ہیں ۔ زیادہ اقبال ،فیض اور غالب کے امکانات ہیں۔

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Miss Farah aap ki Tashreeh agr che zuban o bayan ke lehaz se aala he but it has created big confusion in my mind. Aap ne is sher ki Tashreeh jis zawiaye se ki he mera nhe khyal ke Ghalib ne us zawiay se ye sher likha he, awwalan ye ke aaj tak mujhe ye anddaza nhe tha ke Ghalib ka Tassuf ke sath be koi ta'aluq tha, mere nazdik Ghalib ka Tassauf se wahi rishta tha jo Akbar Ilah abaddi ka College se tha. Dosra ye ke aap ne sher ke dosray misray ko ziada ahmiyat nhe di, meri naqis raye me is sher ka dosra misra ziada ahm he aur ye sher bhe Ghalib ke un kai Ashhar me se aik he jo aam fehm hen.
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